https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3 Use this padlet to "pass" discussion contributions to your speaker. Speakers should be attentive to their group's thoughts and voice those thoughts in the discussion. en-us 2022-05-09 14:46:46 UTC 2022-05-09 19:33:52 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f5fd.png dremedios https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176285300 The governments constant changes show that they do not have firm values and beliefs.]]> 2022-05-09 18:54:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176285300 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176291062 The many amendments added to the constitution shows how controlling the government has become. They must have a strict set of rules and regulations that most always be obeyed. ]]> 2022-05-09 18:58:05 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176291062 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176292342 They do be getting stuff done. In order to pass that many amendments the government has to be at least somewhat in agreement, which is implying that there isn't very much public input. With more public input there would most likely be less amendments because there would be less agreement. ]]> 2022-05-09 18:58:53 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176292342 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176294756 the government is very controlling and strict of people and what they do, so everyone is equal]]> 2022-05-09 19:00:31 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176294756 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176299878 Big ideological ideas often come from powerful groups that are good at convincing the masses. This doesn't necessarily mean every person believes every policy just that there convinced of the main idea of a movement. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:04:01 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176299878 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176301608 This simile implys that George's thought are dangerous that are "stealing" information, knowledge and power. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:05:20 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176301608 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176302073 The buzzer is stealing his full intelligence and potential in answering certain things and preventing him from being unique or more intelligent than others ]]> 2022-05-09 19:05:39 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176302073 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176303403 it will make him more unique compared to the population and he will not have his own appreciation for certain things, or his full potential and is making him "equal" to everyone else so that everyone is the same

]]> 2022-05-09 19:06:40 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176303403 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176306551 George's thoughts give him an edge. He has an upper hand with his intelligence which isn't allowed. Therefore George's thoughts are like "bandits" fleeing since they're not supposed to be there in the first place.
  ]]> 2022-05-09 19:08:57 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176306551 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176307829 The generals have control over how often the mind handicaps happen. Generals are probably not handicapped.]]> 2022-05-09 19:09:52 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176307829 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176308536 despite the governments efforts people aren't equal, because the the handicaps that the people are required to wear so that they are not different from each other

]]> 2022-05-09 19:10:22 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176308536 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176309785 They try to dumb people down, for everyone to be equal but its not fair because only the intelligent and beautiful have to change something about themselves. Which is just clearly inequality]]> 2022-05-09 19:11:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176309785 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176310079 As an idea equality between people is good. In practice, not so good. Justice for those who are disadvantage may have better results!!!!

]]> 2022-05-09 19:11:26 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176310079 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176310228 The handicap general is an example of a way there isn't equal because she is powerful. A society can never be equal with such clear imbalances of power. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:11:32 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176310228 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176311764 what you can't take away as hard as you try peoples thoughts and opinions. We see George still thinking about the things they're not supposed to. Yes he stops but it doesn't completely remove it he still has those thoughts.]]> 2022-05-09 19:12:35 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176311764 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312068 people aren't equal because the fact that they were required to wear handicaps they are being treated unequal the rest of population, therefore they aren't equal]]> 2022-05-09 19:12:48 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312068 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312366 The Handicap General seems to be above everyone else. Are there exceptions to the rule of wearing handicaps. Is the government exempt from that law?]]> 2022-05-09 19:12:59 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312366 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312638 True equality would be extremely difficult to achieve. In this society, they had to have a handicap general to maintain the "peace" and regulate rules. This person already has greater authority than everyone else. True equality would require every single person to have the same traits and same amount of power. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:13:09 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176312638 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176316268 Although the handicaps may limit a persons talent, handicaping them makes an even bigger equality difference. People who are more intelligent have loud, constant, disruptive noises in their ear when some dont, limiting what they can do on a day to day basis]]> 2022-05-09 19:15:33 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176316268 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176317427 sure it makes things equal but if you have to lift more because your stronger you are not treating them equally with pain and struggling. Having to struggle to think more because you have to think the same as someone who thinks naturally that way. Emmanuel is going to struggle if he's going to have to lift three times as more as mr remedios. Sure you are the same strength but emmanual has to work so much harder than mr remedios

]]> 2022-05-09 19:16:23 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176317427 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319171 People should get credit even if they dont succeed. If a person really tries, and still fails, they should still receive some form of credit for the work that they did.]]> 2022-05-09 19:17:31 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319171 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319313 do higher up government officials have to wear handicaps....? how do they come up with new amendments if they have to wear handicaps.... therefore not equal]]> 2022-05-09 19:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319313 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319944 A person who has been disadvantaged but still has a desire to learn and grow. This determination to better themselves should be rewarded.

]]> 2022-05-09 19:18:04 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176319944 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321049 equality is possible in a different sense from Harrison Bergeron. No you cannot make someone physically and mentally the same as everyone else, but what you can do is give people better oppurtunities for those that can't do as much as another. Instead of forcing them to be smarter or be stronger or less of that just give them oppurtunities to learn and you can be equal and still be different.]]> 2022-05-09 19:18:53 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321049 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321598 i think that people should be given credit regardless of the outcome because they put in the effort and tried and now they know what they need to improve in the future and shouldn't be disciplined for not doing good enough even though they tried]]> 2022-05-09 19:19:21 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321598 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321903 People should get credit just for trying, in the sense of in the workplace any and all labor should be rewarded with the ability to survive. It is extremely unfair to say that someone with a "talent" is more than worthy of payment which directly relates to survival in society. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:19:32 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176321903 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176322691 In their specific society i think yes they should gain credit just for trying because some people aren't able to express their thoughts and some people's thoughts are forced to keep in. I think their goal of equality just is to make everyone weak and not able to rise to their full potential anyway.]]> 2022-05-09 19:20:08 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176322691 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176323320 I think the burden exceptional people must carry is their reputation because people like Elon Musk have a higher expectation than non famous people]]> 2022-05-09 19:20:37 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176323320 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176324467 People should receive credit if they truly tried to to accomplish a task. That said if the end result produced nothing then how will they be able to grow and learn from their mistakes if we encourage them. ]]> 2022-05-09 19:21:35 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176324467 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176329764 People all around the world are born at a disadvantage. Most of the time these people have little access to the resources required to excel in life. They will not be able to succeed and be dissatisfied with their life without help from people around them.]]> 2022-05-09 19:25:50 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176329764 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176332765 there is a burden for yourself because you have higher standards for yourself than other people have for you, like if you are really smart and do bad at something and you get something easy on a test wrong, but socially there no one is telling you that you need to do this or everyone will hate you, its more you telling yourself that making it a personal burden not a burden for society, its the standards you hold for yourself]]> 2022-05-09 19:28:01 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176332765 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176334582 For people who are athletic, smart or beautiful they are expected to be better in that area then others making them have pressure making them try harder than others to succeed.]]> 2022-05-09 19:29:20 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176334582 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176336011 Exceptional people carry burdens that society puts on them. A celebrity has pressure on them to keep up a good public image, wheras an Olympic athlete has the pressure of taking gold for their country. I think that would be a pretty big burden.]]> 2022-05-09 19:30:16 UTC https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176336011 https://padlet.com/dremedios/pvgsh87y1df6lqd3/wish/2176340383 The oppression by the tyrannical government in this story makes is impossible for an individual to take power.

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