https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh Use this page to collect your thoughts. What connections do you see thus far between the stories? en-us 2018-01-12 15:10:39 UTC 2018-02-08 18:35:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221066868 Between Hamlet and Crime and Punishment, I have made several connections.
•Hamlet and Raskolnikov both let their thoughts take control.
•Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov have strange relationships with their mothers.
•Hamlet and Raskolnikov felt their murders were justified.
•Death of loved ones let to worsened madness.
•Dunya and Ophelia have very different roles as sisters
•Razhumikin believes that Raskolnikov is impacted by other things going on in life (not murder). Hamlets friends and family also blame other things for his madness, as opposed to planning murder.

]]> 2018-01-12 17:53:25 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221066868 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221066923 • Raskolnikov / Hamlet = events before book; reason for their madness?
• women in Hamlet vs women in C&R = H/weak, “respected” C&R/strong, hated for it
• Razhumikin / Horatio= both loyal to “off” friends
• theme of suffering and revenge (raskolvikov’s revenge is his mental state against himself)
• Pulcheria / Gertrude= both baby their sons; “mommy issues”
• Everybody dies
• Insanity / mental illness = motif in both stories
• lots of interpretation and assumptions]]> 2018-01-12 17:53:34 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221066923 cbarjak00 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067024 -Is Hamlet or Raskolnikov’s madness deeper?
-Raskolnikov seems to have more guilt than Hamlet.  Why is this?
-In both, women are looked down upon by men 
-Ophelia contrasts women in C&P (does what the men tell her)
-Both contain suffering, physically (Hamlet dies and Raskolnikov gets ill) and mentally (Hamlet becomes insane, Raskolnikov has paranoia, guilt, etc.)
-Parallel between Horatio & Razhumikin
-Raskolnikov and Hamlet are opposite in their motives. Raskolnikov murders for what he believes is the good of the whole while Hamlet does so simply to satisfy his own revenge. ]]> 2018-01-12 17:53:46 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067024 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067095 -central idea of murder and suffering 
-loss of sanity due to death/murder 
-both contain one "accidental" death (polonium and lizavetta)
-the roles of women are looked down upon, no matter their personal characteristics 
-both take responsibility for death within their own conscience
-both fall for a woman of lower social class 
-both main characters are appalled by the idea of suffering, povert, or prolonged pain 
-revenge is a driving force for important actions 
-both plan to take the life of someone they feel should not be in the world. They feel they are helping society by getting rid of them. ]]> 2018-01-12 17:53:58 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067095 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067101 -women’s role in society (looked down upon and are threatening to the men)
-madness/insanity (hamlet & Ophelia vs Rask)
-murder (theme)
-men are “superior” (almost all men show this)
-revenge 
-problems within all relationships
-less opportunities for women (Sonya and Dunya & Ophelia)
-excessive killing (Lizaveta & Polonius)]]> 2018-01-12 17:53:59 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067101 hreed17 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067143 -The theme of revenge and madness
-Both main characters are caught up in their own heads
- Both have one truly loyal friend
- Suffering is found throughout both stories and it bothers the main characters 
- The sons of issues with their moms 
- Both have dead dads
- Both murder people to benefit themselves/ for someone else (society/revenge)
- Some of the women compare in they are weak ]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:06 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067143 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067147 Both:
Mommy issues
Love interest
Murder
Loss(Mar/King)
Crazy
Think they are doing good
Innocent death(Liz/Pol)
Moms/no dads 
Relationship disagreements 
Loyal best friend
Strong women are not okay 
Not the same:
Hamlet does not waiver or regret his murders
Ras is not being held back from relationship by other people
Hamlet does not have to deal with the law
Hamlet in never punished
Ophelia is weak/Sonya is strong 


]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:07 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067147 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067196 -idea of madness (hamlet=insanity, Raskolnikov =mental illness)

-death or killing
-females looked down on (Dunya stands up, Ophelia doesn’t) 
-idea of mental illness (Raskolnikov & people in hamlet wanting to commit suicide ) 
-suffering 
-I feel like there is a lot of ironic love 
-value of friendship and somewhat family


]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:15 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067196 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067242 •The women are held to a lower standard (except the women in c&p are strong minded enough to not care what the men think of them) 
•The central problem to the story causes the protagonists a lot of inner turmoil and stress.
•Hamlet and Raskolnikov are both babied in a way. Hamlet because he is the Prince--of course he is going to get whatever he wants. Raskolnikov, on the other hand, is babied by his mother and sister. 
•Hamlet and Raskolnikov are similar in many ways but a single event connects Raskolnikov to Claudius in a way that no one else could understand, which is taking the life of another person. 
•Like most people, they cant help but want to be caught. What so great about these crimes if no ones there no to take credit for it. Both characters drop hints and Raskolnikov flat out says how he could have committed the crime

]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:22 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067242 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067371 - Suffering and Madness: Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov face a certain degree of suffering, driving them both mad to an extent; they both face it alone for the most part (Both refuse to give knowledge of a murder which haunts them throughout the plot) 
- Both murder (Hamlet's count is higher and does not regret, however)
- Women are admired for their beauty and attributes, yet they are not given the same opportunities or standard men are; treated significantly different from men
- Death of Hamlet and Raskolnikov's lovers; both were of lower class
 ]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:43 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067371 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067416 I feel like there are many similarities between Hamlet and Crime and Punishment:
-There is a theme of suffering in both 
-The theme of revenge is present in both
-Women play very small roles and are looked down on by the men
-Very large theme of insanity
-In both, there is an innocent character murdered (Lizaveta and Polonius)
-The mothers of both main characters are very important in Hamlet's and Raskolnikov's lives.
-Both main characters' friends, Horatio and Razhumikin, are very loyal to them.]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:50 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067416 tdickenson https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067444 -The women have very little agency
-Like Claudius, Raskolnikov is sensitive to hearing about/seeing the murder he committed (whenever someone brings up the woman and in the play)
-Sonya follows her mother's command the same as Ophelia does to Polonius
-Raskolnikov and Hamlet's madness is self-instigated
-Hamlet and Raskolnikov both look to a higher power/signs from above
-Oedipus complex?
-Justification of crime by superstition
-Similar character tropes/archetypes

]]> 2018-01-12 17:54:55 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067444 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067637 -females play little roles and looked down upon 
-Both stories revolve around the idea of revenge 
-Horatio and Razumikhin(good friends to Hamlet and Raskolnikov and try to help but don’t know how and fall short of doing so)
-Murder of someone who was not the original target
-Both lovers of Hamlet and Raskolnikov die (did Raskolnikov’s have an affect on him mental health?)]]> 2018-01-12 17:55:29 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221067637 claytonmaksymiuk https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221069417 Take Personal Responsibility for Injustice

• Hamlet’s father was murdered, so he personally avenges him
• Mare-beating episode, Raskolnikov tries to get everyone to stop, personally tending to the mare
• Murders pawnbroker for the betterment of society, although it isn’t his responsibility

Murders One Too Many People

• Polonious was a casualty of Hamlet’s attempts to murder Claudius
• Lizaveta was a casualty of Raskolnikov murdering Alonya

Both Go Mad

• Hamlet begins to go mad, although it initially started on purpose
• Raskolnikov goes mad after (or before?) commuting the crime, but develops feverish sicknesses as well. He did not intend to go mad. 

]]> 2018-01-12 18:00:07 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/221069417 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729147 - Both protagonists had issues with mother // affected their behavior throughout the novel (attitudes, outlooks, philosophies)
- Horatio and Razumikhin (loyal friends until the very end; despite what their friends have done and say, they are loyal)
- Ophelia and Dunya are foils for one another (the latter is stronger, independent, and respected whereas the former is submissive, quiet, and obedient)
- Mental states = almost every one in both C&P and Hamlet suffer from mental illness even though they are not directly diagnosed (anger issues, depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorders)
- Raskolnikov = Claudius // both believe their order is the highest and they are not in the wrong (god-like mentality)
- Consequences = characters in both works suffer in some way (death, prison, mental torture, etc.)
- Religious foundations / influences 
- Family dynamics = Dunya/Raskolnikov are foils for Laertes/Ophelia, respectively (D and L both are aware of their siblings health and want the best for both of them, even though R & O are far gone)]]> 2018-02-08 18:04:43 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729147 skesler3 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729606 -insanity (both don’t seem to be in their right minds and their actions show this, can’t really communicate well with anyone and start to lose connections with people due to acts committed)
-both murder (raskolnikov kills alonya and lizaveta and hamlet kills polonious and many others)
-mothers unaware (both pulcheria and gertrude aren’t aware fully of what their sons are dealing with and just seem clueless as to the turmoil taking place in their sons minds)
-love interest (both sonya and ophelia stayed around raskolnikov and hamlet even after knowing about the horrible things they’d done and the inhumane ideas in their heads)]]> 2018-02-08 18:05:34 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729606 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729912 -Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov seem to be mentally off
-Hamlet and Raskolnikov both face the consequences of their actions after spiraling mentally (Hamlet death, Rask jail)
-Both mother’s know that something is off with their sons, however, they do not seem overly concerned with finding out why 
-Hamlet kills for his own self pleasure (revenge), Raskolnikov does so because he thinks it’s better for society 
-Both have relationships with their mother, but father is gone in both
-Ophelia and Dunya contrast, Ophelia does as men say, Dunya more independent, makes her own decisions

]]> 2018-02-08 18:06:05 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229729912 samanthachristensen_2 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229731240 Both have mother issues
Raskolnikov and hamlet have mental heath problems 
Commit crimes
Suffer the consequences( both knew there would be major consequences)
Try to give reasoning for what they did (expect to be accepted even after what had happened)
Each feels they are above others, which makes it ok to do what they do
Hamlet does from his cause (getting revenge) Raskolnikov just goes to Siberia 
Female roles are different (Ophelia follows orders, Dunya and Sonya somewhat have more say in what they want/want to do)

]]> 2018-02-08 18:08:06 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229731240 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229732627 Hamlet and Raskolnikov both have some mental issues whether they say so or not.
In the end they both have to own up to the consequences of what they did with their mental and physical actions-Rask goes to jail, Hamlet dies-
Mothers somewhat have issues with their son's, but refuse to give attention to them.
Both commit the crime of murder
Suffering occurs for both
They both up excuses for what they did and believe it is ok. 
Love at some point becomes a problem in both: Hamlet and Ophelia, then Dunya and Luzhin.
Insanity is caused by loss for both Katerina and Ophelia. 
Sonya does more of what she wants, she breaks the woman's role of always doing as told. Where as in Hamlet Ophelia listens to what she is told and does not have much say. 
Hamlet tries to be like the "Jesus figure" so he is most like Sonya who is the Jesus figure in C&P.

]]> 2018-02-08 18:10:13 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229732627 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229734220 -suffering (Rask, Hamlet, and Ophelia)
-mental issues (drives Hamlet and Rask to make impulsive actions--deviant behavior)
-problems within family (Rask & his mother, Hamlet & his mother, Hamlet & Claudius)
-end suffering (Ophelia's suicide and murder by Rask)
-murder & death
-Ophelia vs Sonya (opposites). Ophelia conforms to society (listens to dad, very dependent, follows orders), whereas Sonya thinks for herself and does what she wants (prostitute, supports family, strong and independent)
-Claudius vs Svid (parallels). They both take the subject of murder & death lightly (they have both killed), show no signs of remorse, and have no consequences for their actions
-confession (Rask & Hamlet)
-Rask & Hamlet hold in their feelings (no one to listen), which causes their insanity and irritability]]> 2018-02-08 18:12:55 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229734220 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739414 I see a lot of parallels between characters in C & P and Hamlet. 
-Rasmuikin and Horatio are the loyal friend regardless of murder
-Madness of Raskolnikov  and Hamlet (Svid?) 
-Mans actions reflected on to women (Sonya and Ophelia)
-Ophelia and Sonya are the security 
-Women treated poorly
-Protection of Mother (Hamlet tries to stop poison/Pulcheria taken away from situation) Mama's boys... or not?
-Is Hamlet an extraordinary man? Svid? Raskolnikov?
-We don't know that Hamlet feels any less guilt because he dies?
-Porfiry is like Rosencrantz and Guildernstern? Frenemy like?
-Dunya and Laeretes? Caring sibling?? Trying to look out for others.

]]> 2018-02-08 18:21:37 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739414 bsheffield1 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739547 (I didn't write one before.)
- In both there is a crazy or insane nature with Hamlet and Raskolnikov.
- both have a loyal companion with Razumikin and Horatio.
- both have parental issues. Rask=Pulcheria Hamlet=Gertrude
- Raskolnikov and Hamlet commit murders with some revenge aspects.
- a lot of characters contradict each other and some characters are similar
Raskolnikov and Claudius, Raskolnikov and Hamlet, Lizaveta and Ophelia, Sonya and Ophelia, Sonya and Gertrude. 
- there is a love story in both and they cause the main characters to act differently.
- a lot of characters have a dual nature/duality to them. Like how Hamlet is crazy but is actually not, Raskolnikov is bad but is still good in a way, Sonya is a Christ figure but is a prostitute, Gertrude is a good person but is harmful.]]> 2018-02-08 18:21:51 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739547 tdickenson https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739642 -Raskolnikov and Hamlet both play the role of judge and jury
-Given this purpose by something supernatural--Hamlet ghost and fate
-Those roles are evidently too much for them to handle
-Sonya brings Raskolnikov to redemption, Ophelia's death drives Hamlet to his death
-Hamlet's crime is lack of action against someone who arguably deserves it, Raskol's is taking action against someone who doesn't
-Themes of temptation in Biblical allusion
-Raskolnikov is 'reborn' by repentance, Hamlet receives forgiveness through death
-Confession of murder saves Raskolnikov, secret-keeping in Hamlet causes death
-Madness overcome at death/rebirth, paves way for ultimate truths/confessions/forgiveness]]> 2018-02-08 18:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739642 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739650 -both Raskolnikov and Hamlet are "insane" and that plays into how they both act and how other people interact with them
-they both have somewhat of a conscious when it comes to what they are doing wrong and how it affects other people. ]]> 2018-02-08 18:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739650 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739736 - Katerina and Ophelia both go crazy because of loss
- there is support for both Hamlet and Ras
- Hamlet dies but Ras is put in jail
- Ras gets the girl
- Raz get Dunya
- Both best friends stay alive
- Both best friends support their friends
- Hamlet and Ras both get revenge
- both mothers care for their sons
- both leads are intelligent-ish


]]> 2018-02-08 18:22:10 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739736 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739762 I feel like the parallels exist more in the beginning half of the book than the end.  Earlier on, their similarities lied within their insanity, but as they started to fall further down, the distance between them grew; Hamlet seemed to be more motivated, focusing solely on his revenge.  Raskolnikov seemed to become more sick, trying to prove himself almost--every time he would think about confessing, he would talk about the Ubermench.  When it came to the end, Hamlet died after completing his goal, where as Raskolnikov is shipped off to Siberia.  
I would almost relate Raskolnikov to Ophelia, because they are driven mad.  Although Raskolnikov did this to himself, the madness that ensues seems similar, and I think me expecting Raskolnikov to commit suicide strengthens this similarity for me.  Hamlet, however, could be seen like Porfiry, having this complex plan and waiting for the right moments to strike.  It was not enough to simply reveal the crime, but to make sure everything played out perfectly.]]> 2018-02-08 18:22:13 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739762 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739860 There are many similarities between the characters in Crime and Punishment and the Characters in Hamlet.
-both Hamlet and Raskolnikov go insane
-they both have a close friend (Razumhikin and Horatio) that know of what is going on and still support them
-Hamlet's does not bring insanity among himself, but Raskolnikov does because of the murder
-Although Ophelia was a very strong female character like Dunya, both Ophelia and Katerina end up going insane and dying.
-Both characters are very close with their mothers: Rask is babied by his mom while Hamlet and his mom have more of an intimate relationship
-Religion and suffering both play big roles in each book

]]> 2018-02-08 18:22:25 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229739860 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740258 •Hamlet and Raskolnikov =insane 
• Mommy issues 
• Father not in the picture 
• revenge? Hamlet was getting revenge for his father while Rask getting revenge on the pawnbroker for not giving him as much money as he thought he deserved for his items.
• mothers both kinda come in clutch. Hamlets mom dies for him and Rasks mom keeps his secret.
• marmelodov // polonius 
• razhumikin // horatio 
• we can compare Claudius to Porfiry, both were spying because of acts of insanity. 
•hamlet and raskolnikov can also be contrasted. Hamlet was willingly insane, while raskolnikov fell ill to quilt. 
•”cat and mouse” analogy is very prominent throughout both

]]> 2018-02-08 18:23:04 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740258 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740393 - I see a strong connection of friendship within the two stories; Razumikin is to Raskolnikov as Horatio is to Hamlet. Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov don't outright tell their friends of their knowledge or what exactly they plan on doing (and although Raskol has a confession of what he's done, not what has been done against him or his father) Horatio and Razumikin are able to pick up on their motivations and what is going on with them. 
- Both stay true to their time period, in which women are lower beings to the men; however, we see the strength of Sonya and Dunya as the novel went on, which is something that the vague characters of Ophelia and Gertrude were never fortunate enough to be given 
- The subject of death remains prominent within C & P with Svid's suicide towards the end, but is no where near the intensity of Hamlet's deaths; by the end of Hamlet, there are virtually no crucial characters remaining other than Horatio, in which a clean slate is portrayed for the kingdom to start anew with Fortinbras. But C & P leaves off on the idea that Raskol will continue on upon release from prison, learning nothing. While Hamlet comes to an acceptance of his death, what has happened, and Claudius paid for his actions, there is nothing learned by Raskol and we are left to believe he will commit the same crimes again

]]> 2018-02-08 18:23:17 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740393 hreed17 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740485 -Both stories have connection to religion 
-Brother and sister relationships are strong 
-Hamlet dies in the end but Raskolnikov goes to jail
-Luzin. evil power figure like King Claudius 
- Dunya and Sonya are more powerful than Gertrude and Ophelia 
-Most characters die in the end of Hamlet and the characters that die in C&P die throughout 
-Both main characters can be interpreted as crazy
-Friendship parallel between Horatio and Hamlet to Razmukin and Raskolnikov ]]> 2018-02-08 18:23:27 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740485 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740507 Murder...
Character parallels
Role of women begins the same, but becomes opposite as CandP  goes on
Raskolnikov and Hamlet are both very close to their mothers
Mental Illness?
Both have something "wrong" with the main female character at some point. 
-Ophelia's madness vs. Sonya's prostitution
Many hours of quiet contemplation
Take responsibility for burdens that aren't theirs to bear
Personal mission (revenge)
Both are "doing the world a favor"
Neither of them are immediately concerned with punishment
Idea of insanity
Both hate the idea of suffering, but continuously make themselves/others  suffer
There is at least one "accidental" murder in both stories
There is one (or more) suicides in each story 
progression in sense of guilt over time
taking money vs. taking a life. 

]]> 2018-02-08 18:23:28 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740507 ciegloj https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740919 -Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov want to confess and talk about problems in their lives.
-Cat and mouse VERY easy to spot in both stories. 
-Niether are very careful of hiding their insanity. 
-“What comes first? Crime? or sickness?” theory in both
-Women have opposing roles (Ophelia vs. Sonya)
-Could Ophelia have a few characteristics of a christ figure? That would make her more like Sonya.
-Someone closely connected to the “target” is killed by accident (accidental murders that don’t affect the story too much).
-Both Hamlet and Raskolnikov seem like they act based on events from their past.]]> 2018-02-08 18:24:07 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229740919 skesler3 https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229741055 -suffering (both hamlet and raskolnikov are paying for the deeds they committed and are facing consequences that they in a way deserve)
-murder as a solution (raskolnikov believes that killing alonya is what’s best for all of society and hamlet believes that killing claudius will make up for the fact that he murdered his father, both don’t seem to consider forgiveness or another alternative instead)
-dedication (both believe in what they’re doing and want to see their plans completed, won’t give up until their act is seen through)]]> 2018-02-08 18:24:22 UTC https://padlet.com/meyaek/candpandh/wish/229741055