https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37 What does it mean to be "brave"? Period 6/7 en-us 2017-03-03 16:10:15 UTC 2026-02-20 04:22:14 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157655295 Colonel Grangerford has wealth behind his family and is white. Therefore, they have something to fall back on, even if they make mistakes. He's part of the southern system, even owning the system. They can "brave" because of their background of power.

Colonel Sherburn: He also has land because he owns a shop and also owns slaves. This owning of slaves and owning of wealth implies their power. Due to this reputation of power, he also has a net protecting him from mistakes, making him "brave."
-Praneet

]]> 2017-03-03 16:11:53 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157655295 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157655304 Colonel Sherburn and Grangerford value their reputation of honor more than they do life. They aren't brave in the standard sense, but are more so afraid of losing face. Thus, they are more willing to fight , since their honor is on the line.

-Jeffery]]> 2017-03-03 16:11:55 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157655304 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157656414 Huck and Jim are not part of the southern establishment. Huck himself detests all of the practices of the south to the extent that he ran away with Jim, who also detested southern values like slavery. Their position in southern society was a position  outside of established values, making it hard for them to have influence and stand up to southern society.
-Syed]]> 2017-03-03 16:14:43 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157656414 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157656760 This directly parallels modern gangs. In modern gangs reputation determines action. The basis for hierarchy in modern gangs is reputation someone with a lot of reputation in a gang. A member with a lot of reputation can easily stand up to someone with a lower rank they are not afraid to fight others who disagree with them. However, people lower in the ladder of hierarchy in gangs have no other choice than to be bossed around by other gangsters.  This parallels to Huck Finn because Huck can not retaliate when being conned or bossed around. This is demonstrated in the encounter with the duke and the king where Huck realizes that these men are cons but is forced to accept them into the raft. ]]> 2017-03-03 16:15:43 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157656760 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157659764 Some researchers argue that herding societies tend to produce cultures of honor that emphasize courage, strength, and violence. Unlike crops, animal herds are much more vulnerable to theft. A herdsman could lose his entire fortune in one overnight raid. Consequently, martial valor and strength and the willingness to use violence to protect his herd became useful assets to an ancient herdsman. What’s more, a reputation for these martial attributes served as a deterrent to would-be thieves.  In fact, many herding societies were among the most ferocious. The ancient Hittites, the ancient Hebrews, the Mongols, and the ancient Celts are just a few examples of these warrior/herder societies.

https://mlab.osu.edu/sites/mlab.osu.edu/files/Moritz%202008%20critical%20examination.pdf

^ My source


]]> 2017-03-03 16:23:41 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157659764 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157660425 Colonel Sherburn and Colonel Grangerford are very outwardly brave. They are not afraid to fight others who dishonour or disagree with them. Essentially they fight to maintain their reputation. It is not complete bravery, as they are simply violently fighting. To be violent is not necessarily the same as to be brave. They care about how others view them as being brave, while not actually being brave. They still follow established traditions and support old ideas. 

-Syed]]> 2017-03-03 16:25:15 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157660425 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157661580 Huck and Jim, on the other hand, stand up to an establishment out of their own moral beliefs and values, challenging the corrupt notions of slavery and oppression through their own battle. In a way, they are more brave than those who only value outer bravery, but do not have the courage to question what is wrong and change their ways. 
-Jeffery 

]]> 2017-03-03 16:27:51 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157661580 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662166 I believe that the reason Huck and Jim do not stand up for themselves is because they are not in the majority (adult white man) and are marginalized in society. Specifically Huck is a child and would not be taken seriously because of his age. As for Jim, he is a slave at the time and would be jailed or lynched for having an outspoken opinion.]]> 2017-03-03 16:29:13 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662166 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662305 I agree with you Jeffrey,  Colonel Sherburn and Colonel Grangerford are embedded with the Code of Honor. They were two men who lived fearless, with heart,  yearned to be the most dominant, and constantly had their lives on the line. Meanwhile, Huck and Jim were simply two friends who belonged to no such brotherhood or unity. They were two independent, fearful, and submissive guys.]]> 2017-03-03 16:29:32 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662305 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662752 Yes, Ryan. Because of Huck's age alone and Jim's color, they are not as respected as men like Sherburn and Grangerford. Both the colonels own land and wealth, whereas Huck and Jim just own themselves, so society has no reason to respect them. Huck is white, but he still restricts himself from some actions such as uncovering the identity of the Duke and the Dauphin. He doesn't have enough power to uncover their identity and create conflicts with them that he can resolve with the wealth and power that Sherburn and Grangerford hold. 
-Praneet

]]> 2017-03-03 16:30:31 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157662752 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157663511 I agree with Syed, Jim and Huck weren't part of society's values, colonel Grangerford and Sherburn were, thus they could do as they pleased.]]> 2017-03-03 16:32:31 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157663511 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157663664 I agree with Syed. Colonel Sherburn and Grangerford are fighting to maintain their reputation which they care very much about. They care more about what people think about them than anything else. ]]> 2017-03-03 16:32:55 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157663664 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664078 I agree with you Jeffery when you say that Colonel Grangerford  and Sherburn want to defend their honor, but I also think that Sherburn was genuinely brave and was not fighting just because he was afraid to lose his face. Sherburn broke the honor code when he stood up to the lynch mob and called them cowards. ]]> 2017-03-03 16:34:03 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664078 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664361 I agree with Syed. Huck and Jim are not supported by the Southern honor code as opposed to Sherburn and Grangerford. Sherburn uses violence to protect his own manhood and societal image (as stated in the Code) by shooting Boggs. This is because Boggs ridicules Colonel Sherburn to a point where Sherburn needs to protect his image by “dueling” with him, and his actions are supported by John Lyde Wilson’s “The Code of Honor: Or Rules for the Government of Principles and Seconds in Dueling” (“...(1) words being no satisfaction for words…(2) When words are used, and a blow is given in return, the insult is avenged…”) and other values listed in the Southern Honor Code (particularly violence and manhood). The Southern honor code also supports Colonel Grangerford to feud with the Shepherdsons, to protect his manhood, honor, protection, courage, and violence. The Southern Honor Code allows these two characters already have the privilege to stand up to others, even through violent means, to sustain their sense of dignity.

]]> 2017-03-03 16:34:45 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664361 gina_corsun https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664517 I agree with you, Jeffrey, about saving face. One sees this value in gang/mafia culture as well.]]> 2017-03-03 16:35:05 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664517 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664951 I agree with Jeffrey, in southern society, honor is everything, the "saving face" exhibits this.]]> 2017-03-03 16:36:07 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157664951 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157665728 I agree with Ryan. Standing "brave" against others is harder for Huck and Jim, for they both are runaways and do not carry a place in society.  As a result, Huck and Jim do not value power and prestige and have no reason to express bravery against others. ]]> 2017-03-03 16:37:56 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157665728 https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157666007 I agree with Praneet because having all of that support does create a basis for Sherburn and Grangerford. Wealthy people in general have power.]]> 2017-03-03 16:38:36 UTC https://padlet.com/gina_corsun/puek8rwd9e37/wish/157666007