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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Sean chapter 15: So Lincoln’s first speech in 1854 as a candidate is clearly anti slavery aswell as his second one but as he gets into his third one and beyond trouble starts to build up so he has to switch his focus from freeing the slaves to keeping the country a float and keeping the union together not completely neglecting the slaves but if he had to free the slaves and keep them in captivity to bring back order to the union he was willing to do(and he said this as a president). Both speeches represents Lincoln’s views on slavery due to the specific times of the speeches but he was never fro slavery and general wanted them to stay captive he wanted to free them if he could and hopefully send them off, but if he had to keep them in captivity for a little while to bring back order to his country he would have but he wouldn’t have lost sight of trying to free the slaves.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>David 1. Contrast the two speeches Lincoln gives, while still a candidate — the first in Chicago, and the second</p><p>in Charleston, Illinois. Which do you think represented Lincoln's ideas on slavery? Base your argument on what he said in his other speeches, and/or what he did about slavery. Always consider the social-political background at the time of his speeches.</p><p><br/></p><p>Abraham Lincoln’s Chicago speech, and his Charleston, Illinois speech reveal his contrasting views on the equality of slaves in a time where abolitionists were on the rise. Lincoln’s Chicago speech emphasizes the idea of equality without the superiority of white people. Throughout this speech Lincoln made clear that the all races must unite as all people are created equal. On the other hand, the Charleston, Illinois speech focuses on the freeing slaves, yet also promoting the superiority held within the whites. Lincoln’s opinion on what equality meant had changed, and I believe this is due to the social and political background at the time. I believe that Lincoln revealed his true emancipation intentions in his Illinois speech, as he spoke to Americans who didn’t want slavery, but were against the rights and power that would be given to the slaves, while his earlier speech in Chicago was directed at a crowd of pure abolitionists. Given we later find out that the emancipation was more of a strategical move, rather than a fight for equality, Lincoln Illinois speech sounds like it spoke more to his true thoughts on slavery.</p><p><br/></p><p>2. Can you support the argument that Lincoln carried out what he said he would do in his 1862 speech</p><p>(Number 5).</p><p><br/></p><p>I don’t believe I can support Lincoln’s 1862 speech, where he claims that freeing some slaves but not others is what he has to do to save the Union, and if he could save it with freeing none or all he would do the same. Lincoln admits that he never cared about the “colored race” and had only freed the slaves in the south to ensure the preservation of the Union.</p><p>3. How, if at all, has your attitude about Lincoln been changed as a result of this exercise?</p><p>This exercise helped me realize Lincoln being the “Emancipator” didn’t make him the great person you would think he is. After reading how his opinion started to change after trying to appeal to new crowds, Lincoln’s reasoning for the emancipation switched from making everyone equal, to doing whatever it takes to protect and save the Union.</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Chapter 17 Thesis: The American Civil war was the result of state secession, over the justification of slavery, and the rights of the states vs the rights of the federalists.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;Lincoln's views on slavery differ noticeably between his two addresses, one delivered in Chicago and the other in Charleston, Illinois. Lincoln presents a more egalitarian viewpoint in Chicago, calling for racial equality and human oneness. Nonetheless, he adopts a more conservative stance in Charleston, rejecting the social and political equality of the white and black races. Lincoln's changing views on slavery are a reflection of the complex social and political climate of the era as well as his desire to win over a wide range of supporters during his campaign.</p><p>Thesis: Together, these intricate problems molded the course of one of the most important moments in American history.</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sandor - In Chicago Lincoln emphasizes the need to get rid of the ideas that one race is better than the other, and he calls for unity among all people, regardless of race, instilling the principle that all men are created equal. This speech correlates with Lincoln's more broad anti-slavery statements and shows a more inclusive perspective.&nbsp;</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>On the other hand, in Charleston Lincoln takes a more aggressive stance. He confidently states that he is not in favor of social and political equality between the white and black races. He is against making voters or jurors of Black people and rejects the idea of intermarriage. He states that there must be a position of superior and inferior between the two races. This speech is more cautious and appeals more to the people of the time with Lincoln recognizing the people's racist views at the time.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Chicago speech represents his idealistic views on slavery and racial equality. He got to voice his opinion like this because at the time Chicago was described as a “hotbed of abolitionist sentiment”. Meanwhile in Charleston the people who opposed slavery didn't believe in equality among the races they just did not want black people either free or slave living amongst them in the North or in the territories. This is why Lincoln had to take a more safe approach in his speech leaning in to the ideology of the citizens of Charleston.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Chicago speech is a more accurate representation of his ideas on slavery because it aligns with much of what he said in other speeches before and after with him stating that “Slavery is unquestionably a wrong” in his first anti-slavery speech</strong></p><p><br/></p><p><strong>Thesis statement - </strong></p><p><strong>Abraham Lincoln's election, South Carolina's secession, the firing on Fort Sumter these events quickly happening one after the other were the result of a century of conflict which led to the Civil War. The underlying causes of this tragic conflict can be found in the raw nerves of American history, submerged under a century of expansion and growth, but exposed in the bitter fights over tariffs, western lands, constitutional rights, and slavery. The American Civil was primarily caused by the conflict over the institution of slavery, which came to be through the struggle for control over territories, different interpretations of the Constitution regarding slavery and state rights, and the Southern states’ secession after Lincoln’s election. While there are many other factors that contributed to the start of the Civil War slavery was the main catalyst for this bloody war.</strong></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>The "Great Emancipator," Abraham Lincoln, navigated the complex political climate of his day by taking a nuanced and changing stand on slavery. His early speeches focused on stopping the growth of slavery and on containment, but during his president, he took a more practical stance and put the Union's survival ahead of instant emancipation. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was a dramatic change in direction, signifying his dedication to the eradication of slavery as well as a tactical move during the war. It also highlighted the fine line he had to draw between his political career and his legacy as an emancipator.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln's views on slavery were not constant and could be seen changing from speech to speech, particularly when comparing his addresses in Chicago and Charleston, Illinois. In Chicago, he passionately argued for the equal treatment of all humans, calling for unity among races. Yet, in Charleston, his rhetoric was more cautious, avoiding the suggestion that black and white people should have equal social and political rights. This shift between speeches illustrates the complicated and often conflicting attitudes of that era, highlighting the complex state of public opinion and the nuanced political strategy required in a nation at odds with itself.</p><p>Thesis: Lincoln's ability to tailor his speeches to his audience significantly influenced the critical developments of that time in American history. His skill in adapting his messages and his tactical approach to communication were crucial for leading the nation through its challenging and defining moments.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Sean chapter 17:  There were many factors that contributed to the start of the war but primarily everything revolves back to slavery as a whole and the great emancipator Abraham Lincoln and his Republican Party. Now why the North  and South developed two different split interpretations of the constitution and why everyone started to abandon the constitution after Lincoln gains power isn’t hard to come by. I believe the war didn’t had to happen.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Cameron: Ch. 15: Lincolns views on slavery are mostly negative, with speeches degraded the institution of slavery, and some speeches calling for its end. He goes as far as to call slavery a hateful institution in an early speech, and in Chicago advocates for equal rights of all man. However he contradicts himself in Charleston, speaking on how he thinks that the white race is a superior race and how black men and white men are not equal. This contradicts his past speeches,  and this contradiction was likely because of the backlash Lincoln was receiving, due to advocating for the black race in America. Lincolns early advocation for the abolition of slavery, is a big reason why the south states left the union, which started the civil war.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Anj- Comparing Lincoln's speeches in Chicago vs&nbsp; Charleston, Illinois, there seems to be a shift in his stance on racial equality. His Chicago speech speaks on unity and discarding notions of racial inferiority. However, his Charleston speech speaks from a more conservative view, opposing social and political equality between white and black races. I think we can take from these speeches that Lincoln’s views on the topic are obviously nuanced, he is taking multiple factors and perspectives into consideration, not necessarily opposing himself?&nbsp;Thesis Statement - The American Civil War was primarily caused by differences in moral views concerning slavery, Northerners saw it as morally wrong, while Southerners defended it as essential to their way of life. This moral situation manifested in struggles over territorial control, constitutional interpretations, and the South's secession after the election of Lincoln. The ethical divide over slavery led to the redefining of the course of American history.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Leah - From Lincoln’s first speech in 1854 it shows that Lincoln is against slavery saying that it is “unquestionably a wrong” But as the speeches continue throughout the year you can see that Lincoln doesn’t care as much as he says because of the speech he made in 1862 saying that “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all of the slave, I would do it, Proving that although he may be against it, he doesn’t care if it lingers as much as he says. </p><p><br/></p><p>Thesis: The civil war began from the secession of the states and not from the freedom of slavery </p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the opinion stated in 1856 on slavery accurately depicted the views of Lincoln on slavery. I think this because it would’ve been a time where he wasn’t under great political pressure- like when he was the President. His wife was also apart of a prominent slave-holding family, which is why I believe that this is his view since he was so open to opposing his wife.</p><p><br/></p><p>Thesis: The Civil War was caused by ongoing tension between the North and the South, the growing debate over slavery and extremism.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Contrast the two speeches Lincoln gives, while still a candidate — the first in Chicago, and the second</p><p>in Charleston, Illinois. Which do you think represented Lincoln's ideas on slavery? Base your argument</p><p><br></p><p>on what he said in his other speeches, and/or what he did about slavery. Always consider the social-</p><p>political background at the time of his speeches.</p><p><br><br></p><p>Lincoln advocated for racial equality in Chicago and Charleston, Illinois, emphasizing the superiority of the white race over the black race, despite the ongoing debates about race and equality. Lincoln's speeches reflected the complexity of his stance on slavery and racial issues.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- His Chicago speech leans towards a more egalitarian view, aligning with the sentiment of racial equality.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- The Charleston speech, however, shows a pragmatic side, acknowledging the prevalent social and political sentiments of the time.</p><p><br><br><br></p><p>2. Can you support the argument that Lincoln carried out what he said he would do in his 1862 speech</p><p>(Number 5).</p><p><br></p><p>In 1862, Lincoln proposed compensated emancipation for slaves in loyal states and in Washington, D.C. This aligns with his statement that he would do what helps save the Union, whether it involves freeing slaves or not. His issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 further confirmed his commitment to making emancipation an official war aim, although it had practical limitations.</p><p><br><br></p><p>3. How, if at all, has your attitude about Lincoln been changed as a result of this exercise?</p><p><br></p><p>it has not.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>1-&nbsp; In his Chicago speech, Lincoln talked about how slavery was morally wrong and really got into how lies are being told in the face of justice. He spoke against racial inequality and called for unity, he said this because he believed and based a lot to do with equality on the thought that all men are created equal so how could there be discrimination.</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;But in his Charleston speech he took a more realistic stance (what was considered realistic back then), and he acknowledged that there was a social and political imbalance regarding equality between white and black races. He expressed that the white race having superiority was important in order to make sure the politics weren’t affected by American Americans.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>2- In Lincoln's 1862 speech he talks about his commitment to preserving the Union.He emphasizes that this is his primary goal for the Civil war.&nbsp; He stated that he would take any action, including freeing or not freeing slaves, based on what he believed would save the Union, this just shows a glimpse of what he was willing to do for the Union. I can’t support this argument as he makes a comment saying he never cared about the “coloured race”&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>3- My thoughts on Lincoln have changed quite a bit. I viewed him as a semi decent ruler with his priorities in check, because he's the person who advocated for the emancipation&nbsp; Proclamation he was seen as a “good guy” however after this i see that he only put such policies in place to support the political side rather than for the human decency. he comes across has very hypocritical, having a speech saying one thing then the utter opposite not long after is not only confusing but shows his true thoughts to those enslaved.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>ch 17 </p><p>thesis statement </p><p><br/></p><p>The American Civil War was the outcome of an extremely long conflict that was caused over disagreements </p><p>about tariffs,  lands, constitutional rights, and most significantly slavery. The main reason for the Civil war was  slavery and the differing interpretations of the Constitution on slavery and state rights. Despite various contributing factors, slavery stood out as the main cause behind the most brutal War. The war that was the cause for the most lives being taken by war in all of American History. </p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://1.In">1.In</a> the Chicago speech Lincoln spoke out about the importance of unity and that he believed that the country needed to discard different views and opinions and unite under the principle that all men are created equally.</p><p><br></p><p>However, in the Charleston speech Lincoln revealed a different perspective, stating that he was not in favor of equality between races and in fact that he would prefer to see the white people in a superior position.</p><p><br></p><p>Overall, Lincoln’s Chicago speech most accurately reflected Lincoln’s opinion on slavery that all men are created equal but contradicted this in Charleston speech to gain public approval as this was the societal beliefs of the time.</p><p><br></p><p>2. In Lincoln’s speech in 1862 he spoke about his obligation to the preservation of the union. He mentions that with or without freeing slaves he will preserve the union and that that is his main goal in the civil war. I don’t believe that I can support this argument as he identifies that he does not care about the “colored race,” meaning that the abolition of slavery is just a possible py product of the preservation of the union.</p><p><br></p><p>3. As a result of this exercise I have gained valuable knowledge that can allow me to give a well thought out opinion of Lincoln and how he did not care about the abolition of slavery he only helped it happen to help him win the civil war.</p><p><br></p><p>Thesis statement: The Civil War, triggered by Abraham Lincoln's election, South Carolina's secession, and the firing on Fort Sumter, was the climax of decades of deep-rooted sectional conflicts over issues such as slavery and constitutional interpretations.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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