Secondary source quotations - most powerful? by Claire Murray https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3 IB1 HL and SL class en-us 2018-05-01 03:23:14 UTC 2023-02-19 20:34:54 UTC hello@padlet.com Stephanie - Tragedy of Modern Time https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256775453 I believe the quote “The play addresses the tragedy of modern times", by Egil, is the most effective for me because it truly explores the social problems and really brought to the attention about the roles of woman during the time period. The quote exposes the concept of woman's rights, which is still a problem in some areas in current times, Ibsen said that he did not believe woman rights, but in human rights.
The play itself puts the idea of woman's right to the test by using Nora's character to really explore the role of woman and the way the audience of 1870's viewed them - their expectation being loving, stay at home, looking after the children, providing food - however, at the end of the play, Nora is shown to leave the family.]]> 2018-05-01 07:20:09 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256775453 Avielle- Tragedy of Modern Time https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256777135 “The play addresses the tragedy of modern times”
I think that the play does reflect the tragedy of modern times especially in Act 1.  It is shown that women have very little say on the financial side of family and are stuck with the tradional roles society views a mother should have such as being a caregiver to her children and not working jobs . A Doll’s House challenges this stereotype by displaying Nora as not only as a caregiver but someone who is willing to go against the norms in order to ensure her families safety, an example of this would be when Nora goes behind her husband’s back to borrow the money she needs to pay for his treatment . This would have come as a shock to the audience viewing the play in the 1879, especially because women weren’t allowed to do that in the 1870s. Ibsen confronts the ideas of how a woman should behave and goes against the ideals of women in 1870s.   

]]> 2018-05-01 07:39:13 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256777135 Thomas - "So simple in its action..." https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256777367 "So simple in its action and so everyday in its dress" - Erik Bogh
This quote reflects on the play in a very ambiguous way, with the reader not totally understanding whether Bogh is criticizing or complementing the play. If taken as a criticism, it states how the naturalistic theme of the play makes it boring, showing the misunderstanding of this type of play for an audience of the 1880s. If taken as a complement, Bogh understands the theme of naturalism, and its effect on the audience as representing a 'slice of life'. ]]> 2018-05-01 07:42:05 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256777367 Marie - "Tragedy of Modern Times" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256862654 I believe that Tornqvist's statement of classifying the play as a 'tragedy of modern times' was an effective insight to the play's thematic direction as it explores the societal expectations and notions of women in a patriarchal society: a dependent figure, who must abide to the strict standards of a 'typical' woman. In act one, Torvald lectures Nora on the act prudent lending, contemptuously criticizing her actions: 'has my little spendthrift been wasting money again?' as well as referring to her as a 'little featherhead! That is like a woman.' Here, Ibsen filters Nora through the stereotypical beliefs and roles of women in the time period as Nora is degraded by Torvald's demeaning words. Furthermore, the first insight the audience is given of Torvald is when he is in his office, with a pen in his hand as Nora eats a macaroon. Again, the cues are reflective of the traditional gender roles -- Nora, a childlike individual, compared to her husband, who is deemed to be well-educated and in a pursuit to provide for his family. 

- Animal imagery: Torvald dehumanizes Nora, places her in an inferior pedestal, again, alluding to the patriarchal society.]]> 2018-05-01 14:15:57 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256862654 Saef-"Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life." https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256894276 "Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life." - Halvdan Koht
This quote by Halvdan expresses how the play is seen as a form of naturalism which was newly founded at the time of this play in the late 1800's and took audience members by surprise. It allowed the audience to view a window into life of normality and what can happen in the real world, instead of a fictional fairy tale in which many plays were produced about in the 1800's. Halvdan implicates the play hits the audience all of a sudden after a slow build up which can be viewed through Halvdan's description of the play and how it "Exploded like a bomb". The play truly does bring the contemporary life of that time period up and shows the differences in men and women of the time and how life was like during this era.]]> 2018-05-01 15:17:08 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256894276 shamma - "Tragedy of Modern Time" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256901050  
In my perspective, I believe that the statement “the Tragedy of modern times.” Egil Tornqvist is the most compelling perception of the play. This is because it alludes to the idea of feminism and humanism. As well as Egil being more of a believer in human rights that women rights. This is frequently being explored in the play as he uses Nora to be the figure representation of the women in 1870, as well as how society viewed or whether they accepted them. Ibsen uses Nora’s character to bring to the audience how some women were like and what was expected of them to do for their families, despite their intelligence,  society degrades them as its a male job not a female job to take care of business actions; however this contradicts to the way Nora acted in the play, when she goes behind her husband back and hides that secret from him; hence this alludes to the message that Ibsen is trying to convey, that women’s expectations should not just be viewed as a housewife, or looking after her kids, but that is how they were viewed in the 1870’s.  
]]> 2018-05-01 15:30:08 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256901050 Yousuf- Tragedy of Modern Time https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256917214 The quote "The play addresses the tragedy of modern times" really shines light upon the the roles a woman would have during the 1800's. During this time period societies expectation on mothers were that they should take care of the children, and provide help in households, this also goes against women's sate of freedom, as it goes against their power or right to act and speak. If a woman in the 1800's would go against the fact that they should only take care of the kids and provide help in households they would have been seen as unnatural. In the play Nora is symbolised as one of these women. We still have the problem known as sexism nowadays, however in some regions of the world women have the same status and oppurtunity men have. According to Ibsen he did not believe in women rights, however, he did believe in human rights. This portrays the fact that all humans should be equal. ]]> 2018-05-01 15:59:53 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256917214 Nima-“so simple in its action and so everyday in its dress.” Erik Bogh https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256934980 This quotation portrays the unusual nature of the play in comparison to the time it was preformed, as it explores realism and naturalism a step further than other pieces of theater at the time. this can be seen through out the first act as the playwright begins to explore a very standard and regular setting , mirroring a typical household through the use of stage directions, this to the audience would be seen as uncommon however the uncommon feature then reels in the audience.Furthermore the simplicity of the situation the playwright creates for Nora is further portraying this idea of an everyday life. The societal norms that are imposed on the characters allow the audiences to reflect on how these norms apply to them and this is portrayed through the characters and the plot which links back to the idea of it being so 'simple' and so 'everyday'. ]]> 2018-05-01 16:38:06 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256934980 Amram- Erik Bogh https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256956222 I found this quote the most effective for two main reasons. First and foremost, Erik mentions the degree of simplicity embedded in the playwright. This could possibly reflect the idea of naturalism that the audience in 1879 were unfamiliar with. Stage directions indicate the presence of many windows, potentially to mimic the "slice of life" and "window on life"; almost a portion of their everyday lives (hence everyday) the audience is looking into. As apposed to certain plays in that time period which tend to sway away from conveying this idea of naturalism, ultimately making them more complex. Secondly, this "dress" Erik mentions is particularly powerful in terms of the main protagonist, Nora's character. She is often seen putting up a faced or having some sort of deceptive nature. she walks across the set "stealthily" she takes macaroons out of her "pocket". This builds tension and collectively leads the audience to gain knowledge of Nora's wrong doings ("forgery?"). The prospects of her actions are clear however, she chooses to deny them as she lives in a world through roses tinted glass, hence the idea of a dress to cover everything up and mimic her secrecy. ]]> 2018-05-01 17:23:30 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/256956222 Riaz "Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life." riaz148 https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257011384 "Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life." - Halvdan Koht
I believe that this quote in particular is extremely powerful as it conveys the power of naturalism on society. Although there were many aspects that highlighted how this family like many other abides by social norms, through the restrictions of Nora and her confinement in the house , Various events that unravel in "A dolls house" go against the social norms of society in 1879. For example how Nora has to work small jobs in order to generate enough money for the family to be functional. This idea of it exploding like a bomb draws a parallel between Nora's fate when Torvald eventually discovers the true source of the finance. This play really shows both sides of a relationship, the positive "wedding cake" affection as well as the secrecy and mistrust between many couples across all eras. ]]> 2018-05-01 19:16:02 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257011384 Mohamed-"So simple in its action and so everyday in its dress" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257074103 I believe that this quote is the most effective way of conveying the intricacies of the play. This is due to the simplicity of the production, due to the few characters and the single set. The style of naturalism involves shorter plays with realistic and plausible situations which are meant to be a "window of life" to allow the audience to seemingly be looking into the characters as they are continuing to live their lives. The actions portrayed in this style of plays as well reflect this feeling of normality and being mundane, seemingly being an every day situation, but it is meant to attempt to show society's flaws or its injustices through the course of the play. The drama of the play originates from the the everyday feeling of the drama, forming from lies that people tell to protect others and/or to keep a family unit together.]]> 2018-05-02 00:39:20 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257074103 Sabeena - "Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257088104 Halvdan Koht's comment towards the play "A Dolls House" emphasizes the reality of the play in the sense that within society, during the 1870's, naturalism within plays were unheard of. A "bomb" refers to an explosive weapon that often times appears unexpectedly. This can initially be seen as a negative comment as it almost suggests that the play itself somewhat as bombs have negative connotation. However, in this context Koht's highlights the newness of the play in terms of being brand new within the society of the 1870's as well as the fact that this type of play was not expected in the slightest due to the fact that it allowed the audience to look through the characters "window of life" and watch how their lives unfolded whilst also referring to the fact that the play calls into question society's expectations (Mrs Lindt only working because she is a widow)]]> 2018-05-02 01:59:02 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257088104 Humaid - "Tragedy of Modern Time" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257129096 I believe that this quote is very captivating because its a good representation of the naturalistic feature of this play. The tragedy aspect of it highlights Nora's desperate actions to save her husband and also shines light to society's flaws highlighting that not everything on the surface is truly what it seems. It conveys the social stereotypes such as Nora's responsibility to stay at home and take care of the children whereas the husband goes to work and earns for the family. However, the "modern time" refers to them going against social norms in that Nora does small jobs to save her husband and borrows money from a man without her husbands permission, eventually leading to their divorce.]]> 2018-05-02 06:45:23 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257129096 Jana- "Exploded like a bomb into contemporary life" https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257145546 This quote stated by Halvdan Koht encapsulates what the play is about and is a perfect representation of the the themes that are being addressed in this play. The play itself is a naturalistic play that apprises the common life of a family in the 1800s. The play is a representation of plausible situations  which is displayed in the realistic settings. The realistic and relatively 'normal' setting would be rather shocking and questionable to the audience which explains the reaction of the critic towards this play. Contemporary times means the current time that the play was set in and therefore, the realistic set and plot could allow the audience to look at their own life in a different manner as well as reflect on the society's norms at the time. However, "A dolls house" breaks many of these conventions and thus is very intriguing and shocking to the audience. ]]> 2018-05-02 08:14:26 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257145546 Moza: “so simple in its action and so everyday in its dress https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257147366 This quote is the most powerful to my understand as ‘so every day in its dress” highlights the idea of naturalism, as the play explores the ordinary protagonists of their own time in their environment, in 1879. Additionally, it emphasizes how women were demeaned in society. Furthermore, “so simple in its actions” emphasizes how this play abandoned a large number of theatrical conventions such as actors addressing the audience, songs, dances and also luxurious settings. This idea was new to a lot of audiences as they were not used to mundane and middle-class setting ]]> 2018-05-02 08:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/cmurray6/pfhhdbop9ev3/wish/257147366