https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33 Made with eyes on the prize en-us 2016-11-07 17:57:02 UTC 2016-11-30 23:27:45 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873746 Ralph and Piggy, despite what is happening still try to be civil and keep a fire going. Even though Jack steals it.]]> 2016-11-07 17:58:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873746 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873825 The best example of civilization vs. savagery is in chapter 11 when Roger pushes the rock onto piggy. Roger is fully aware of his doings, and proceeds to kill piggy. This completely takes over any civilization that Roger had left.]]> 2016-11-07 17:58:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873825 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873930 In chapter 8 the boys finally do what they've been talking about all along, they've killed the pig. Not only do they kill it, but then they dance around and praise it, they even ram a pointed stick through its head as a trophy, this is a perfect example of civilization v. savagery ]]> 2016-11-07 17:58:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873930 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873941 When Piggy is asking for his glasses back, he points out clear differences between Ralph's and Jack's tribes. He actually uses the word 'civilized' to describe Ralph's tribe and 'savages' to describe Jack's. He also gives examples of each.]]> 2016-11-07 17:58:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135873941 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874307 When Ralph and Piggy are trying to get Piggy's glasses back, Roger leans on a lever that makes a boulder go tumbling down and hits Piggy head on sending him off of Castle Rock to his death. After this Jack does not even acknowledge Piggy and starts attacking Ralph and spears him. This shows the savagery of both Roger and Jack.]]> 2016-11-07 17:59:52 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874307 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874565 in chapter 10 when jack and his group are in need of fire they sneak into ralphs camp where they forcefully take the glasses. this represents a turning point in savagery to me because after this event conflicts arise and they react in a way they never have before they have turned to violence in matters that were not as serious as they made them ]]> 2016-11-07 18:00:33 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874565 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874621 Jack and his tribe begin to do similar chants as to when they killed the sow, when they kill Simon. It is clear they are not in the right state of mind and they are acting savagly.]]> 2016-11-07 18:00:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874621 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874975 Ralph and Jack start fighting because with their spears because he called Jack a theif.]]> 2016-11-07 18:01:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135874975 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135875293 The conch being crushed symbolizes that Civilization is no more, and has completely turned to savagery.]]> 2016-11-07 18:02:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135875293 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135973070 Jack's tribe of savages splits off from Ralph's tribe. They soon realize after leaving that they have no means of lighting fires, so they attack Ralph and Piggy in attempt for Piggy's glasses.]]> 2016-11-08 00:48:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/135973070 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136087155 In chapter 11 Roger pushes down the boulder, Ralph dodges it but it kills Piggy and shattered the conch showing that civilization has been destroyed by savagery.]]> 2016-11-08 14:03:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136087155 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136169310 Jack and his tribe stole piggy's glasses to make fire instead of asking for some fire .]]> 2016-11-08 17:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136169310 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136169554 Simon was coming down the hill and trying to explain to everyone that there was no beast, however everyone else was doing a dance and they saw him and all ending up attacking him. Everyone has turned into savages because of this.]]> 2016-11-08 17:25:37 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136169554 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136171593 The once civil boys think it is normal to be dirty. They don't mind this.]]> 2016-11-08 17:30:42 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136171593 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136172728 when jack and his gang attacked Ralph, Piggy, and Samneric. jack took Piggy's specs and made them survive without fire ]]> 2016-11-08 17:33:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136172728 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136173718 if they were civil they would want to be clean.]]> 2016-11-08 17:35:58 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136173718 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136173952 During the gathering, Simon crawls down the hill to elaborate and tell the others that there is no beast, however, he interrupts a dance taking place that already has the boys in an aggressive mood. Alarmed, and unaware that the figure crawling towards them in the dark is actually Simon, the others begin brutally attacking him. Although some of them realize it is Simon, they don't stop beating him until he is dead. Because Jack has taught them to act so savagely, death is the only result that is desired among the boys. Whether it is an animal, or one of their own.]]> 2016-11-08 17:36:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136173952 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136176150 In chapter 11 at castle rock piggy describes ralphs tribe as Civil and jacks tribe as a bunch of savages. Golding includes this to show the clear distinction between the two groups.]]> 2016-11-08 17:42:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136176150 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136178240 Ralph and Piggy after this happens realizes the rescue fire is useless and stop tending to it. They do not keep it going anymore]]> 2016-11-08 17:47:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136178240 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136300332 2016-11-09 05:23:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136300332 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136300408 As Ralph and Jack fight and argue, Piggy reminds Ralph that their civilization responsibilities are their main concern. Shortly after, Piggy gets killed and the conch gets completely crush. The conch was the only object and Piggy was the only person left to signify civilization and order. Now that both things are gone it shows that the boys are left with complete savagery.]]> 2016-11-09 05:24:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136300408 theodorus_reintjes https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136813286 when Ralph talks about the death of Simon and Piggy he tries to convince him self that the boys had only killed them on accident. when really it was never an accident but Ralph keeps trying to tell himself different which shows how Ralph is civil compared to the other boys on the island which are more savage. 

]]> 2016-11-10 17:26:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/136813286 https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/140986833 Piggy and Ralph go to confront Jack about Piggy's glasses.  Pretty soon the two leaders are arguing, and a fight breaks out between them.  Meanwhile Piggy is trying to get everyone's attention as he holds the conch high.  Roger is throwing rocks down at them.  Then Ralph hears a noise, and looks up to see a large boulder rolling down the slope!  He dives out of the way, but is powerless to stop the massive rock as it smashes into Piggy's head, causing him to drop and shatter the conch!  This shows the elimination of civilization by the savage hand of Roger.  ]]> 2016-11-30 23:07:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hjacobsen/pdu5e8hzzv33/wish/140986833