Mining & Extraction Debate by Graeme Hall https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru Debate between teams 1 and 2 en-us 2020-03-24 08:33:31 UTC 2020-03-26 10:37:25 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/2692.png Iron mariajesusba1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472388738 That she does not aprove because it pollutes but we need iron for manufacturing, machines, buildings, for transport, machine tools and even some sculptures need iron, fences, security systems, pipes. We also need water. 
Sandra says that iron pollutes the ocean but we still need it in our lives. These uses helps everyone in the world to have machines, transportation, building and even art. It is an important thing in our lifes. Iron is combined with carbon to make a metal called steel. People have been using this metal for more than 5,000 years why stop it now?.  Iron is obtained through minerals. Metal was discovered by accident when some ore was dropped into a fire and cooled brought iron. It is an essential element. Though iron pollutes the our ocean/water, we are working in changing this and helping our waters not to be polluted.

]]> 2020-03-24 10:19:57 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472388738 Bruno and Defne Uranium Argument https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472394680 Ted thinks that a uranium mine in his town, Elementon, could be beneficial for all residents. It would create high numbers of employment and can be very beneficial for the economy of the town. For example, our town could be fully dependent on uranium, and have nuclear power as our main source of energy, I know it won’t be the cleanest solution, however it will definitely be cheaper for us. It would surely increase our economy and make us get upgrades in the public buildings. A uranium mine would doubtless be beneficial for our community.

However he also thinks that a uranium mine in Elementon could put us all at health risk and I am therefore against the idea of building a mine in our city. For example, it has been tested that uranium is radioactive and can cause lung cancer and other diseases. It is also been tested that it emits Radon gas and can be more dangerous than underground mining. Radon gas has been shown to cause cancer. There can also be deaths among workers because of the high number of radioactive gas and contaminated gunpowder. These reasons sum up, uranium could definitely destroy Elementon itself.

]]> 2020-03-24 10:23:23 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472394680 Gold - Vanessa vanessalo3 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396153 The method used to extract/mine gold is panning (it is our ideal method to use for elementon), it doesn't make much noise so it wont disturb my family, and panning can be difficult sometimes so it requires lots of employment which will benefit our family. Panning may be an old method to mine gold but per nugget we can make a lot of money and is the safest method for our workers.]]> 2020-03-24 10:24:13 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396153 silver ecfmelo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396943 since silver is quite a precious metal (0.39 dollars per gram ) he can actually get money but the process with strong jets of water and dangerous chemicals -        (smelted in a furnace mixed with salt and cleaned) it is quite dangerous for his safety so although he does benefit off it he doesn't approve. not only for extraction but also mining -enzo

]]> 2020-03-24 10:24:37 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396943 Lithium- Flori flori_bonnar1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396948 i think that Ted Phillips would be okay with it because if elementon is a small town with a lot of people then they will need more jobs. However, Lithium extraction makes a lot of noise, which may upset his family. Since his children are young, they will need a fresh water supply, and lithium mining pollutes and possibly poisons water, which will be bad for the children's health.]]> 2020-03-24 10:24:37 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472396948 Neodymium peiruita1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472397740 For

I  think that Ted Phillips would think that it is not a bad idea because Neodymium is quite rare and the demand for this metal is pretty high.]]> 2020-03-24 10:25:00 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472397740 Rodrigo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472400239 I think that Ted Phillips will choose Iron because the society needs the Iron and it's applications to have a high-quality life level.
Also, the main ingredient for steel is Iron, and steel is used widely in society, to construct railways, buildings, civil engineering, etc.]]> 2020-03-24 10:26:13 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472400239 Bruno and Defne Uranium https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472406352 In my opinion, I think that Craig would think that a uranium mine in Elementon could be very useful in my opinion. First of all, probably the most important thing for a town, for a person’s lifestyle is health and safety. Well, there is no need to be concerned because this is a safe and healthy method so far in all tests and experiments. For example, most of you know that uranium is a radioactive substance. A radioactive substance is atoms that decay naturally. When scientists researched this metal´s health effects, they detected absolutely no harmful radiation effects on natural levels which is good. ]]> 2020-03-24 10:29:32 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472406352 silver ecfmelo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472408533 Although it is a very sustainable sources of money,  there are many chemicals and most workers complain that they don’t want to work amongst chemicals and acids although it is important, we have the risk of radiation and contamination if every day you boil silver with salt. Not to mention the silver death toll on humans is very big like every other mined chemical we are underground and Disturbing the perfect stacks of rocks balanced on top of each other. No way I want to shut down the company because this is how I get my money but firstly we should find. Alternatives. Although silver is normally one of the only metals you can use for cables and tv I am sure with now-a-days technology we can find a compound chemical as good as if not better that silver to transfer energy and reflect images.
if you can't get people to work on it you cant get money.  

]]> 2020-03-24 10:30:46 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472408533 gold vanessalo3 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472408818
  • craig king will feel very confident in building a gold factory and selling gold because of how valued gold is everywhere. The prices are very high for gold, around 61 dollars per GRAM of gold. Pure gold currently pays around $ 1,250 an ounce. this means that 10 karat gold will be sold at about $ 16.35 per gram. And the 14-karat gold will be sold at $ 23.50 per gram.​
  • If our gold selling is succeful we can make hundreds of thousand per year ​

    • ]]>     2020-03-24 10:30:57 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472408818     Rodrigo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472409258 Iron is also really cheap]]> 2020-03-24 10:31:13 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472409258 Lithium- Nancy siruich1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472409975 Sandra Whistler would not approve of lithium mining because it poisons the water supply of the community, and some children or elders would need a fresh supply of water. Lithium mining also may cause chemical leakage, which is a major concern for the citizens. Lithium mining also possibly harms soil, which could be bad for crops that the community is growing. It also possibly produces air pollution. All of the above side effects of lithium mining is harmful to the community and which Sandra will definitely mention to the mayor.]]> 2020-03-24 10:31:39 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472409975 Lithium- Flori flori_bonnar1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472410149 It's true that Craig may be happy because of the income of money, but he does not care about the people, and he wouldn't mention any side effects of lithium mining to the mayor. Craig knows that if he does mention the side effects, the mayor might prevent the factory from being built, therefore he wouldn't receive the income. The mayor might not be as delighted to give money to Craig, because she still has a few doubts about the lithium mining. ]]> 2020-03-24 10:31:44 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472410149 neodymium carmen https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472410335
    Against

    Neodymium is a very hard element to find in nature and is mostly only extracted from two minerals. In addition, the extraction of neodymium is quite difficult to achieve due to the various steps needed for this process and neodymium is only used for googles, glass and a sort of cigarette flint. In my opinion, the mayor would be looking for more convenient metals for the society so he can make more money. Neodymium has more specific uses therefore most likely cannot make as many things or is as useful to the society or the government as other metals would be.]]>     2020-03-24 10:31:49 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472410335     Rodrigo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472411831 Iron mines prospection (seeking) and exploiting is a very expensive and difficult venture but once is performed the time frame is very long term, therefore founding a company is creating long term wealth (employment, consumption) 
    Depending on the place where we can access to iron there will be higher or affordable investment cost associated) 
    d so we need to get stable deals with the majors and societies where we are rolling out the projects.
    The economical positive impacts coming out of iron mining and factoring to the city will be higher than environmental collateral effects.
     



    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:32:32 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472411831     silver (Enzo ) ecfmelo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472413637 although silver is quite a harmless metal in itself as a great portion of its production is either cutlery, renewable energy and energy industries to create NANO-SILVER (silver broken down into particles). The world is very important, we will not waste land and biodiversity in our planet. We maybe you do ruin the land but once you do that you can at least fill them back up so it can actually have a chance. I hope one day we can use silver without worrying that in five years’ time it won’t be catching dust in a landfill. In the end we are taking something out of the ground to put it back in only old and toxic mixed with other things . 

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:33:15 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472413637     There are many bad chemicals which can affect our planet, and workers will see what happens and will not want to work with it. But iron does not have those type of chemicals. mariajesusba1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472414521 Iron

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:33:46 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472414521     Now let's hear what the Mayor might think about your metal graemeke1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472415888 2020-03-24 10:34:33 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472415888 Bruno and Defne Argument Uranium https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472415971 Argument For

    Citizens of Elementon, this is a great opportunity for our town, it will create vast employment and increase our economy. It will put this little town of Elementon in the map of the world. We will be able to improve all the community buildings. Planting trees everywhere, building more hospitals, more sports courts, restaurants. This uranium mine is the key to Elementon’s success, if treated properly. I think we should accept this great opportunity; it will give us great economic power and improve everybody’s life.

    Argument Against

    Citizens of Elementon, this might be a good idea for Elementon, however I think we should be careful with the potential risk and health problems derived. We need to go deep in the investigations to take all the security measures to avoid any potential problem. I cannot let a single possibility of becoming into the next Chernobyl, abandoned and infamous.  We need to protect the workers, an avoid them to develop diseases related to the high number of radioactive dust and gunpowder. Also, our citizens need to have clean water. We can’t gamble on the citizens health and therefore the uranium mine should not be allowed.
     
    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:34:36 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472415971     gold vanessalo3 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472416456 Producing and selling gold would make the town very wealthy, not only does gold result in loads of money bcause of its high value and history and its high demand from investors,  but gold can be used in many other ways to benefit Elementon. We could use gold to support other industries such as electronics, cars, energy, stautes, medals, even dental supplies ehancing the living of our residents. The method we plan to use to get gold from elementon is panning which is eco friendly, panning is like sifting river water to eventually end up with gold nuggets, it has been used for centuries and is the safest way for workers to mine gold as it doesn’t use toxic chemicals, wont work in dangerous area like caves. Since panning doesn’t use chemicals,  drill the grounds, release waste, I am fine with setting a gold factory because it is eco-friendly and wont harm Elementon.​ ]]> 2020-03-24 10:34:53 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472416456 Neodymium peiruita1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472417179 Against

    Brenda would probably not want this mining to be done because again, the find of Neodymium would probably bring up many other rare-earth-metals like thorium which is radioactive. So in order to open a Neodymium mine, it is very likely that the Neodymium mine would destroy the environment near this mine. However the results would be good and it could be possible to set up a mine further away from the town. ]]>     2020-03-24 10:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472417179     gold vanessalo3 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472417843 Gold can be found in many ways, the most known eco friendly way is panning because it doesnt pollute, require drilling or produce waste and can result in gold nuggets, but this way might not be as efficient as other methods that are new and do use chemicals and other toxic substances but result in more gold, if the town is fine with producing lots of gold nuggets i approve because it does not have an impact on climate change.]]> 2020-03-24 10:35:42 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472417843 Lithium- Nancy siruich1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472418647 Lithium could help make a lot of citizen's lives better. Lithium is contained in batteries, which is very useful. However, to store lithium is a big problem. It can't be kept under oil, which sodium can, because it is less dense and floats. Many side effects of lithium mining is causing Brenda to worry about lithium mining and if she should allow it or not.

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:36:11 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472418647     Ana Silver https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472419509 I say that this opportunity only happens once in a lifetime and it’ll give us plenty of money to be able to purchase anything or plan any big event or project. It’ll make us very popular amongst other towns and we will be recognized as the town with the silver factory. It would solve all the unemployment therefore more people will move in and we will have the money to make build more houses and expand the town. Our town would be the center of attention and many tourists would come visit. It would be a dream come true! I can’t wait to hear the news; did they decide to accept or decline the offer? I would obviously accept it.

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:36:39 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472419509     Ana Silver https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472420258 What I most care about is my town and the residents, they deserve the best. I know that the environment is very special and that is why I don’t want the silver industry to locate in our town. This industry would destroy the peace and nature that our town has always proudly had and I am not willing to let that happen to us. Although we could really use some money I am going to have to decline this offer. ]]> 2020-03-24 10:37:03 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472420258 Bruno and Defne Argument Uranium https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472421124 Uranium is in most of the cases safe but in some cases if it’s not safe at all if you don’t use it properly. Take Chernobyl as an example: the accident occurred when the fourth reactor had a massive power increase. This led to the core of the reactor to explode, leading to massive radioactive materials and fuels being released and dispersed. Uranium can also cause cancer do to it creating a gas named radon.]]> 2020-03-24 10:37:29 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472421124 Ana Silver https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472421201 I think that our town could use some money and benefits so I think that we should accept this offer. I don’t think it would disturb so much since the factory wouldn’t be so close to our town. And if it is too close to our town and it makes a lot of noise, I don’t mind because we would get a lot of profits. It would also help us a lot so more people would be employed. This could be a huge step in becoming a rich and successful town. We really need this factory, you see, our town has been struggling a lot in maintaining business and earning money, this would be an amazing opportunity and I hope that it gets accepted. 

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:37:31 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472421201     iron mariajesusba1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472422524 iron can be found in the earhs core it doesnt need much digging. We need iron for building lots of things even buildings, cars, sculptures. ]]> 2020-03-24 10:38:13 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472422524 neodymium carmen https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472422935
    For

    Neodymium, despite its quite complicated process of extraction or its limitation of creations, this metal doesn't pollute as much as most metals due to the fact that most metals get burned to create energy or get burned to extract the element from it. Since they are burned, the pollute immensely and cannot provide a clean space to live for very long and it wouldn´t be very healthy for the workers either. Neodymium´s process does not include any unnecessary gasses, only an exchange of solute and an extraction of its solvent.]]>     2020-03-24 10:38:27 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472422935     Ana Silver https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472423230 I am against this monstrosity. I find it unacceptable that people can have the audacity to destroy our sacred nature and convert it into a factory that destroys human nature and converts it into a nightmare. All the activity in the town will be drowned by the noise of drilling and the town will become extremely polluted.

    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:38:37 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472423230     silver ecfmelo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425003 the mayor is aware of the dangers of silver mining and ruining the enviroment. but he thinks that he can get a lot of money with this mine and would hate not to use it]]> 2020-03-24 10:39:27 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425003 Rodrigo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425816 On top iron mining and factories associated to it will provide employment to our city and therefore wealthy supporting better city facilities such as Hospitals, Schools, Sport Halls, hence better life quality to the citizens
     Iron mines prospection (seeking) in the city will attract citizens and foreign companies that will create employment, will consume in the city restaurants, need for hotels, real estate investments, etc…
    The economical positive impacts coming out of iron mining and factoring to the city will be higher than environmental collateral effects
     


     
    ]]>     2020-03-24 10:39:52 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425816     Neodymium peiruita1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425850 Against

    Since in order to open a Neodymium mine it is very likely that the Neodymium mine would destroy the environment near this mine. The environmentalist would  probably not want this in Elementon.]]>     2020-03-24 10:39:53 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472425850     lithium- flori flori_bonnar1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472427146 i think the mayor has mixed feelings because it is bad for the enviroment but it open lots of potions for extra jobs]]> 2020-03-24 10:40:30 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472427146 Continue with the thoughts of our four protagonists about each metal. Next lesson we are going to use all of the information to decide which metal would be best for Elementon. graemeke1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472427990 2020-03-24 10:40:54 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472427990 Rodrigo https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472429090 The environmental cost are too high and put on risk the population due to water supply quality and pollution
    Iron mines affects the earth landscape and change the shape of the nature, affecting not only humans but animals, forest.
    There are so many collateral damages to the environment and water supply that cannot be assumed at any cost, even there are many applications and will affect the quality life there should be pursued other ways to have similar results in the actual iron applications both industrial or civil or daily life (aluminium foil changed by recycled plastic film) such as wood houses, recycled waste material houses, etc… to minimize the iron consumption.
    Affecting the landscape and natural resources availability.]]>     2020-03-24 10:41:22 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472429090     Neodymium peiruita1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472430561 Against

    Since the extraction of Neodymium is very complicated and it involves many other chemicals to extract the better purity, Craig would probably not think that this is a good idea. However the results of this mine would be very good if he managed to do this correctly.]]>     2020-03-24 10:42:01 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/472430561     We should be reading all of the arguments so that we can decide on the best two metals taking everything into account graemeke1 https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/474088243 2020-03-25 09:06:54 UTC https://padlet.com/graemeke1/pad1yyyng9ru/wish/474088243