Catcher MEL-Cons 4-6 by steve whitman

Catcher MEL-Cons 4-6 by steve whitman https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46 en-us 2016-09-22 15:02:58 UTC 2023-06-14 04:45:55 UTC hello@padlet.com Whitman, Whitman, and Whitman ghswhitman https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/125753920 Paste your paragraph here and your group members' names above. ]]> 2016-09-22 15:02:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/125753920 Holden Caulfield, the main character in The Catcher in The Rye by J.D. Salinger, is guilty of being a phony. His actions confirm this, and the following is an example: “I yelled over and asked old Ackley if he wanted to go to the movies” (Salinger 41). Holden goes on and on about his hate for movies because of their phoniness prior to asking Ackley to see a movie with him. Holden’s hypocrisy in this situation reflects upon his contradictory feelings and his loneliness. He is just another phony person who goes to the movies now, which contradicts with his disillusionment of society where everyone is phony besides himself. Another example of Holden being a phony himself comes when https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/125898433 he states, "I keep making up these sex rules for myself, and then I break them right away" (82). Holden breaking his rules immediately after making them shows that he is a very hypocritical character. He has rules in place to keep him from being a phony because he hates phonies more than anything else. However, by breaking his rule against dating phonies the same day that he made the rule, Holden exhibits a need to be with everyone else. His hypocritical desire to be with phonies shows that an aspect of Holden is phony as well. Holden also makes it very clear he is a phony when he encounters Sunny, a prostitute, in his apartment. Salinger narrates, "'Hey, how old are you anyways?' 'Me? Twenty-two.' 'Like fun you are,'" (123). Holden giving false information to someone doing him a favor proves he's a phony. Holden is very lonely in this story, and that is clear to the reader throughout the book. Holden insists that Sunny come in, and he wanted to talk to her for a while. One can infer that he urges her to converse because of his loneliness. It is a very late hour in New York City, and Sunny is taking time out of her routine to stop by Holden's place and keep him company. Holden betrays her by lying to her. His lying towards someone who fills a role he needs in his life shows his phoniness. ]]> 2016-09-23 01:51:16 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/125898433 Amanda, Anna, and Kevin https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126070648 In the book Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger, the main character, Holden Caulfield, accuses people of being a phony. However, he is a phony himself because of his pathological lying.

Holden lies in order to make Mr. Spencer feel better. He says, “So I shot the bull for a while. I told him I was a real moron and all that stuff,” (15). He also tells him that he has to go to the gym and get his equipment. Holden uses the phrase ‘shoot the bull’ several times in the book. In this instance it means to tell the person what they want to hear, while in reality none of it is very sincere. Holden then flat out lies to Spencer when he wants to leave and says that he has to go get his equipment from the gym. This is completely untrue because earlier in the day he lost the fencing equipment on the subway.

Holden is often seen lying about his age to those around him, a notable instance of this is shown when he states, “I stood up while I ordered them so they could see how tall I was and all and not think I was a goddam minor” (158). This faking of age is a shortcut for Holden to enter the adult world which he is not ready for. Pretending to be something you are not is the textbook definition for a phony which is exactly what Holden is seen doing here. Though Holden does not verbally lie to someone, his very actions display his façade and the fact that lying has become second nature to him.

For example, Holden Caulfield is signified as a phony when he tells many lies to his classmate’s mother. When Holden leaves Pencey suddenly and gets on a train to New York, a woman sits down next to him that is the mother of one of his peers, Ernest Morrow. Holden tells the woman that his name is Rudolph Schmidt as his first fib and continues to tell consistent lies about her son such as “He’s one of the most popular boys,” (73) and that he would not let his classmates nominate him to be president because “he’s really shy” (75). He also lies saying he has “to have this operation” (75). This shows that even though he had no reason to lie, he still acted like a phony to this stranger because he simply enjoyed it.

Holden is known for lying for his entertainment, to get out of uncomfortable situations, and to change how people see him. He calls everyone a phony when really, he isn’t any less fake.

]]> 2016-09-23 16:29:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126070648 Skylar, Sara, Natalie, and Hunter  https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126071384 The main character of The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger, Holden Caulfield, is guilty of being a phony. An instance of this phoniness is when Holden hangs out with Sally Hayes. Holden had said himself that if you don’t like someone you shouldn’t go around with them when he’s watching all the happenings through his hotel window. But, when he first sees Sally he says “she looked terrific” but “he didn’t really like her much”. This is phony because Holden goes against his own ideal to go on a date with Sally, someone he doesn’t even like.For example, Holden hates letting his mom know that he got expelled from school, yet he controls whether or not he will get expelled. As stated by Holden “That’s another reason why I hated like hell for her to know that I got the ax again,” (107). Holden is a very bright student, but quit trying in school, which leads to him failing his classes and eventually getting kicked out. If Holden truly hates telling his mom, he’d start trying more in school. He doesn’t try though and his actions lead to a consequence he hates, but he keeps repeating the action while knowing the consequence. In doing this, his phoniness is exemplified. In the story, after Holden got kicked out of Pencey, Holden started talking to the mother of Ernest Morrow a student that also went to Pencey. He talks to her for a long time, but never told her what her son was really like even though he knew how much of a bad person he is. Some of Holden’s thoughts on Ernest are shown in this quote: “Her son was doubtless the biggest bastard that ever went to Pencey, in the whole crumby history of the school.” This shows how Holden is a phony because even though he fought Stradlater for not telling him what Jane and him really did, he goes and talks to Mrs. Morrow and lies about Ernest to her face. He left Pencey early because of Stradlater not telling him what Jane and him did, and calls Stradlater a phony, but then he goes out to the train station and lies and withholds information straight to Mrs. Morrow’s face. This is a prime example of how Holden is a phony. Holden is phony in the sense that he would lie for unnecessary reasons. While coming across one of his classmate’s mother on a train, he lies about his name, and the reason for him leaving early. He says his name is “Rudoldf Schmidt” and he proceeds to justify his lie by saying he “didn’t feel like giving her [his] whole life history.” Upon being asked why he has left Pencey early, he states that, “I have to have this operation… I have this tiny little tumor on the brain.” Holden is being phony because he is lying about things that have no reason to be lied about. In conclusion, Holden Caufield is a phony. H��H�~

]]> 2016-09-23 16:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126071384 Holden Bio-Poem https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126071658 By Mohammed Kadiri, Will Lew, and Holly Kramer
Holden
Who is disillusioned
Who is brother of Phoebe, a "prostitute", and a memory
Who loves Jane, company, and The Rye
Who feels confused, abandoned, and shrunk
Who needs a companion, a reality check, and closure
Who gives hard times, anxiety, and confusion
Who fears life, the truth, and what is beneath the facade of society
Whose lifestyle is tangled
Whose influences are immoral teenage boys and two altercating parents
Whose motivations are love and attention
Who would like to see Allie again
Who shares pain
Who is lost while coming of age
Who is a resident of dreams
Caulfield]]> 2016-09-23 16:33:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126071658 Kelsey Chambers, Emma Davine, and Makenizie Eldridge https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126073024 Holden

Who is lost

Who is a brother of Phoebe, D.B., and the deceased Allie

He loves talking with Phoebe, the museum, and his dead brother

Who feels depression, suicidal, and lonely

Who needs love, support, and motivation

Who gives money, lies, and judgements

Who fears phonies, change, and the future

Whose lifestyle is recklessness

Whose influences are his friends and siblings

Whose motivations are his sister, and getting attention from his parents

Who would like to see where the ducks go

Who shares his ideas with strangers

Who is still not over Allie

Who is a resident of New York City

Caulfield

]]> 2016-09-23 16:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126073024 Genevieve Franz, Sophia Hostasa, Ben Johlie                 In the Catcher in Rye by JD Salinger, Holden Caulfield is a phony because he is constantly contradicting himself. In Chapter 3, Page 19, Holden Caulfield explains how he constantly lies all the time by saying, “I’m the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It’s awful. If I’m on my way to the store to buy a magazine, even, and somebody asks where I’m going, I’m liable to say I’m going to the opera.” Holden always explains how he dislikes people that act phony and lie all the time. Then in this quote he goes on to contradict himself and say he lies all the time, even about the simple things that don’t need to be lied about. He is hypocritical when he calls out people for being phony, when he is just as guilty of being a phony as them. Holden would pretend to like people. He even made a date with a girl he really didn’t like, only because she was pretty. “She gave me a pain in the ass but she was very good looking.” (Salinger 106). Holden mentions his negative feelings towards Sally multiple times and how he didn’t like how phony she was, yet he went out of his way to call her and plan a date. An example of this happens when Holden is talking to Mrs. Morrow on the train, talking about her son Ernest who “was doubtless the biggest bastard that ever went to Pencey” (54). However, Holden really tells Mrs. Morrow that Ernie was a very popular boy, who was voted president of the class (56). During this conversation, he tells Mrs. Morrow his name was Rudolf Schmidt. “Rudolf. That killed me” (55). Although, afterwards, he says how he was feeling some remorse for telling her that since he realized that he actually enjoyed her company. Holden liked “shooting the bull” with people. He does this to make things a little more fun and interesting. Regardless of his motives, he still has a sense of “phoniness” when talking to people, for example, by using fake identities or stories in order to make things seem better for people. This shows how he’s contradicting himself in the way he lied about his name. Thinking it was humorous at first, he realized that it was actually a little upsetting.    https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126073662 2016-09-23 16:40:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126073662 Garrett McPheron, Berit Lubben, Laura McDonald, Annabella Nelson https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126075837 Although Holden hates the phonies of the world, he himself is guilty of being a phony at times, because of his opinions of shows, expression through voices, neatness, and his life rules. While explaining his plans for his date with Sally at the theater, Holden mentions that he doesn't "like any shows very much" (Salinger 130). We have already learned earlier in the text that Holden does not like movies, and now has expanded that to any type of show. However, if Holden doesn't like any shows, then why does he go to them often? (i.e. visiting Broadway and taking Sally to a show.) The phoniness of Holden is amplified by these actions. In Catcher in The Rye, by J.D. Salinger it says, “…they all have these Holy Joe voices when they start giving their sermons. God, I hate that. I don’t see why the hell they can’t talk in their natural voices” (112). In contradiction of the previous quote the text says, “I made my voice quite deep so that she wouldn’t suspect my age or anything” (71-72). In the first quote Holden complains about ministers using fake voices when speaking, but he contradicts himself because earlier in the novel he used a fake voice. Holden says he doesn’t like phonies, such as the ministers, but as soon as he does the same “phony action” it’s okay. When Holden was in the bathroom watching Stradlater for his date with Jane Gallagher, he describes him as a “secret slob” (27). Holden is criticizing him for appearing well-groomed in public, but being a slob in secret. Later on, Holden gets in a fight with him and ends up with blood all over his face. He chooses not to wipe the blood off because he thinks that “All that blood and all that sort of made me look tough” (45). Holden hates that Stradlater seems neat in public, but is actually messy in private. Holden hates when people appear as something that they are not. However, after Holden and Stradlater’s fight, Holden chooses not to wipe the blood off of his face because he thinks it makes him appear tough. This piece of evidence proves that Holden is a phony himself. An example of Holden’s phoniness is in chapter nine, “I keep making these sex rules for myself, and then I break them right away” (Salinger 63). Holden contradicts himself throughout the entire book, and this quote is one of the first times he does. Holden also breaks this rule again when he calls Sally twice, once in chapter fifteen and another time in chapter twenty. Holden claims he doesn't like phonies and that everybody should be themselves, but his opinions, outward expression, neatness, and life rules make him the phony.

]]> 2016-09-23 16:48:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126075837 Amanda Beigel, Luke Bice, Kevin Beck, Anna Ballanger 1908054 https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078418 Holden

Who is two-faced, depressed, and confused

Who is the brother of loneliness

Who loves the pure, drinking, and false maturity

Who feels lonely, passionate, scared

Who needs friendship, identity, purpose

Who gives money to nuns, lies, and his heart to Allie

Who fears the future, phonies, his mark on the world

Whose lifestyle is reckless

Whose influences are James Castle and phonies

Whose motivations are finding out where the ducks go

Who would like to see Jane Gallagher

Who shares his mind

Who is proof that good is in everybody

Who is a resident change

Caulfield

]]> 2016-09-23 16:57:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078418 Kelsey Chambers, Emma Davine, and Makenzie Eldridge https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078524 In The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger, Holden is depressed and suicidal with a skewed perception of his life.Holden believes that he has had it incredibly hard. He even compares his life to David Copperfield which is a book by Charles Dickens. It’s about someone who goes into intimate detail of his life about all the awful things that happened. The fact that Holden believes to have a life along the lines of David Copperfield shows how his perception of his life is that it’s been extremely difficult with a horrible upbringing. A common thing among depressed people is having an idea in their head that doesn’t go along with reality or how a healthy person would view things and Holden suffers from this. In the novel there are many pieces that argue against his horrible life, such as his expensive private schools or his parent’s luxurious apartment. Throughout the book, Holden has many thoughts of suicide. In one instance after Maurice punched him, Holden says he felt like “jumping out of a window”, and “would’ve done it too” if someone was there to cover him up right when he landed (136). Holden is lonely and has no one to help him with his weak state of mind. Whenever he starts feeling really depressed, Holden gets these thoughts of suicide that help show his troubled state. Holden has a very skewed perception of his life, and it causes him to do things out of character. Before he was talking about jumping out of the window, Holden had asked for a prostitute to be sent up to his room. Holden doesn’t end up doing anything with her though because he realizes that’s not who he is. Holden’s depression makes him want to act like someone he isn’t. Holden has a mental state of depression, and there is multiple evidence to support it. At the beginning of the book, Stradlater punches Holden because Holden continuously calls him a moron for going on a date with Jane. In the past Holden has discovered that Stradlater takes advantage of women, which explains his frustration and anxiety shown against Stradlater. When Stradlater punches Holden, the book says “He was probably scared he’s fracture my skull or something when I hit the floor. It’s too bad I didn’t.” (51) The quote states that Holden wished he had gotten a lot more hurt then he actually did, showing that he has a mental state of depression that has affected him to want to get extremely injured. He barely mentions his suicidal thoughts, probably meaning that he doesn’t want to reveal his depression. Most people refuse to mention their mental state when it is something personal to them.To sum it up, Holden’s life can be considered fairly easy to the reader and his depressed mental state causes him to make rash and ignorant decisions. +�I��r��a�

]]> 2016-09-23 16:57:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078524 Ben Johlie, Sophia Hostassa, Genevieve Franz https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078752 Holden

Who is conflicted and depressed

Who is brother of Phoebe and Allie

Who loves Phoebe, Allie and innocence

Who feels depressed, trapped and lonely

Who needs closure, innocence and purpose

Who gives help to kids, guidance and love to Phoebe

Who fears the truth, losing innocence, change

Whose lifestyle is spontaneous, confused

Whose influences are the ducks and his family

Whose motivations are to get his parents’ attention, to protect loved ones

Who would like to see Allie

Who shares drinks

Who is in a dark place

Who is a resident of the State of Depression

Caufield

]]> 2016-09-23 16:58:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078752 In the Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger, the red hunting hat is used continuously as a means of support for the main character, Holden Caulfield. When Holden first mentions his hat he says, "and then I put on this hat that I'd bought in New York this morning...just after I noticed I lost all the goddamn foils" (Salinger 22).At this point in the novel, Holden is using his new hat as a crutch of support after the team ostracized him for losing the foils on the subway. He buys and uses this hat because he wants to set himself aside from everyone, but what Holden doesn't realize is that by turning to the hat for comfort, he is exacerbating the conflict with his team and is now seen as an outcast more than before. Despite this, Holden turns to his hat for comfort much like a small child looks for their security blanket.Holden escaped the cruel realities of the world around him through his exploration of the only topic he could relate to while wearing the infamous red hunting hat. “The way I wore it. I swung the old peak way around to the back… I looked good in it that way. Then I got this book I was reading and sat down in my chair…They gave me out of Africa, by Isak Dinesen.” The red hunting hat lent Holden a sense of confidence and acted as a barrier to the outside world. When he entered the realm of literature, he was no longer beholden to society’s exclusionary ideals and in turn, the unorthodox red hunting hat supported his atypical choices through the warmth and structure it provided. As the red hunting hat enveloped Holden’s forehead and ears, it not only blocked out noise, but protected his psyche from the cruel elements of human nature.After Ackley jabs at Holden in the room at Pencey that his hat is for deer shooting, Holden replies, “Like hell it is. This is a people shooting hat. I shoot people in this hat.” Holden’s remark contributed to how Holden derives support from the red hunting hat. He feels as though people treat him as though they were trying to attack him. The hat is his means of defense against these “attackers” as it supports him when facing them, giving him the strength he needs. In fact, it is one of his only means in which he can defend himself, utilizing it in many situations that he would require it such as when talking to Ackley. Despite not owning the hat for a very long time, Holden still seems to treasure it so dearly, which also outlines how much he is in need of a means to defend himself from attackers.In chapter six on page forty-five, Holden and Stradlater got in a fight and during this fight, Holden gets punched by Stradlater. After their fight, Stradlater leaves their room. After Stradlater left, Holden decides to put on his hunting hat and turns the peak around, the way he likes it. He then looks in his mirror, while his face and pajamas are covered in blood. After seeing himself in the mirror, Holden then says, “It partly scared me and it partly fascinated me. All that blood and all sort of made me feel tough.” This particular scene is significant in relation to Holden’s red hunting hat because Holden felt tough and had a confidence boost while wearing his hat. His red hunting hat gave him support after their fight and also makes him feel superior because of his scary appearance from the blood. Holden uses his red hunting hat as a means of comfort and support whenever he needs confidence. The outside world may see the red hunting hat as a miscellaneous unorthodox item, but to Holden it represents a stable environment. https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078811 Holden

Who is phony, chivalrous, and disillusioned

The brother of sarcasm

Who loves sincerity, attention, and truth

Who feels isolation, depression and misery

Who needs faith, an identity, and purpose

Who gives gloom, foreshadowing, and judgement

Who fears recognition, fallacy, and grief

Whose lifestyle is based on indifference

Whose influences are alcohol and cigarettes

Whose motivations are desire and fulfillment

Who would like to see the preservation of innocence

Who imprints his guilt and pain upon society

Who is tenacious despite his fragile nature

Who is a resident of his own mind

Caulfield

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]]> 2016-09-23 16:58:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126078811 https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126083338 Garrett McPheron, Berit Lubben, Laura McDonald, and Annabella Nelson ]]> 2016-09-23 17:13:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ghswhitman/catchermelcon46/wish/126083338