Intruder Response Questions by David Keim https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a Please post questions/concerns reagrding each scenario. en-us 2016-10-31 12:25:42 UTC 2016-11-08 19:55:05 UTC hello@padlet.com Scenario 1: Grade 2 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136071715 What do you do if a student is in a wheelchair?
Barricading doors how do you know what other teacher may be doing when their class is connected to yours
Situational changes all the time
Our location requires to barricade in place and get out of line of sight.
Go with your gut. Officer Hickey told us to "do what is right."
Get access to phone, dial 911 and help to offer location of intruder if possible.
If we are the ones to discover an intruder, we would call 911 first, do we notify the office?]]> 2016-11-08 13:15:54 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136071715 Concerns from 218: Schoolwide pages are hard to hear.  Can we get door wedges?  glass breakers?  go bags?  rope ladders?  What if you do not have all your students with you when you get to the secure location?  Is it beneficial for our student population to practice lockdown drills?  What if our students are at lunch?  Would they be able to hear the announcement?  Is there some sort of light that could act as an alarm?  Should we pull the fire alarm to alert school to evacuate the cafe? https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072075
Possibly assign your students a number and have them count off to make sure you have the all.  Identify role-model students that can act as leaders of the class while teacher tends to high needs students.

Scenario 1:  Exit into the woods via the backdoor exit towards the Miller  Playground.

Scenario 2:  Listen to hear for gun shots, screaming, then exit via the door near Placentino playground.  Keep running towards woods near Miller playground.

Scenario 3: Exit into the woods via the backdoor exit towards the Miller Playground.]]> 2016-11-08 13:17:02 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072075 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072271 Scenario 1: Intruder in computer lab. we left the building. heading towards middle school or parking lot. Some discussion about which is the better choice. (Room 4 group)

Facilitated discussion: good choice to go outside. Since this isn't our room, we  were not unanimous in our choice of where to go. Takeaway from this is that we need to think ahead of time where is a safe place to go. Things to consider: are we visible to safety personnel? Parking lot might not be a safe choice: safety personnel and media will be there. Suggested: use the fenced in area. Reminder that the announcement will include whatever information is available about the intruder. There was no mention of a weapon in this scenario so it is reasonable to assume there is not a weapon. 


]]> 2016-11-08 13:17:35 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072271 Concerns from Room 203 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072869
If my office is upstairs across from the science room do I lock the door and hide or try to get out of the building?

Also, the intruder would see us lock our doors because we have to go out in the hallway to lock the door.

Concerns from Grade One
What about students in the bathroom? If we evacuate do we leave them? Teachers couldn't hear the message in the bathroom.

Is there a protocol for the students if they are in lunch? 






]]> 2016-11-08 13:19:13 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136072869 Scenario 1 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136073637 Down in the 5th grade wing we would evacuate.  The suggestion by the office to  pick a student leader to lead the group out is an excellent one.  Teachers know who  other students will follow.]]> 2016-11-08 13:21:36 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136073637 Scenario 1: https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136074784 We evacuated today from room 208.

What if it snows?  What should we do? Coats?
We would like a tone to signal an important announcement is about to come.
In the gym /cafeteria they can't hear any announcements.
What if our classes are at lunch?




]]> 2016-11-08 13:26:11 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136074784 Scenario 1 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136074828 What will we do for children who are in the bathroom?]]> 2016-11-08 13:26:21 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136074828 Scenario 2: Grade 2 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136075830 Intruder in MIller guidance wing. We would evacuate the building and move towards Adams. Discussion was about going directly towards Adams or moving through the woods behind the baseball field. Both options are good choices.
Officer Hickey - you want to stay in close proximity to the school so that once the incident is over, parent pickup or if needed, witness testimony can be given.]]> 2016-11-08 13:29:55 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136075830 Room 4 Kindergarten and Preschool https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136076494

Scenario 2: Intruder in Miller guidance suite. Female wearing a long black raincoat.  We would go outside again. 

Mrs. Gleason joined us and reminded us that to teach the children about this topic we must prepare ourselves because our response may initially be emotional.

More detail on teaching children: we might want to practice walking zig zag and thinking about the safest way out - it might be the front door rather than the side doors. 

Discussion on communication and use of phones during an actual scenario. Susan says we will receive a document this week with contact information to use in an emergency. It's recommended that we  have our phones with us in case of an emergency. Store these contact numbers in your phone. Some discussion of not jamming the phones during an emergency. Chief Cassidy says the threat will be neutralized first, then safety personnel will try to be doing accountability for staff and students. 

Discussion of using shades on windows and doors: Can we add shades on the door windows? Chief Cassidy responds: based on national best practices, shades were removed by safety personnel so they can see into the room in case of an actual emergency. 

Why can't you lock door from the inside? Building code. We don't want to trap kids inside the room. Chief Cassidy suggests keeping door locked during day and leave it open so it can just be closed in an actual emergency. Some discussion about turning off lights and locking door whenever children are not in the room. 
]]> 2016-11-08 13:32:21 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136076494 Scenario 2 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136076676 Downstairs in room 119 we would evacuate. However we discussed hiding out if things changed and the intruder moved closer to our area. We talked about what to do about students in the bathroom, walking in the hallway, etc. ]]> 2016-11-08 13:32:53 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136076676 Scenario 2 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136078447 We are in room 208, so we closed the door and went to the corner farthest from the door.  We discussed not locking the door, since the intruder could be running down the hall.  Do we leave the door locked at all times? If he tries to break the door, do we move to the next classroom.  If we make a decision, we need to stick to it. Can we get interior classroom locks in the form of a magnet latch on the door?]]> 2016-11-08 13:38:38 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136078447 Might there be a possibility to have one window in each classroomon the first floor that would have the hinges removed so we could use that window as an escape window? https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136080608 2016-11-08 13:44:45 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136080608 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136081386 Scenario 3, Room 4 group: Placentino Art Room going down hallway. Young female wearing all black.

We agree we would go outside again. What if our children are not in our classroom? In caf or specials, etc.? Chief Cassidy recommends getting out and then going around the building to find our students. 

What would we do if we had to stay in our classroom? Put them in quiet room or hunkered down behind bookcases. Some discussion about whether to go into the bathroom to hide. Chief Cassidy responds: most incidents are resolved within 3-6 minutes. Intruders are deterred by barriers, ie locked door. Some discussion about whether you can use the courtyard - you can't get trapped there. What about hiding the kids and teacher standing near the door: ChIef Cassidy says stay with your kids. Barricading the door: it serves as a deterrent. Chief Cassidy tells us we should have a controlled higher level of intensity when responding during an actual emergency. 

There is some talk about breaking a window if we need to get out - may want to keep a hammer or something similar to break a window. 

Some talk of line of sight: will the intruder be able to see us leaving the building? Or will the intruder's location have changed significantly since the announcement was made? 

Chief Cassidy: This drill was made to help develop muscle memory so we have played through many of these scenarios in our head and we think about how to respond. Suggested that we practice zig zag walking. ]]> 2016-11-08 13:47:09 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136081386 Scenario 3: Grade 2 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136081613 Evacuate and move towards Adams. If the intruder was to switch directions and head towards the recess playground, what would change, if anything?
Concerns of stampede especially if there are younger students up here.  Trying to create a mental action plan so that if this scenario were to occur, you have a better sense of what you can do.
Does one try and create a "light scenario" where students are involved? Concerns about doing that were shared.
Question about being able to lock the doors from the inside. This was brought up last time we had the intruder response protocol.
How do we include Paras in terms of learning and getting involved in this when this is  ESSENTIAL practice.
Can you hear into classrooms via intercom? (Susan question)
Can we use our intercom as a way to share out to others?]]> 2016-11-08 13:47:44 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136081613 What if teachers are at lunch? https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136082359 Should they go outside to find the class depending on the threat?]]> 2016-11-08 13:49:49 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136082359 Scenario 3 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136082409 From room 208, we evacuated outside through the parking lot. The people in the cafe haven't been trained in intruder response, we feel all adults working with children should be, specifically in the lunchroom (paras and staff in the kitchen). Don't hide in the morgue, the doors are locked. OUr job is to protect as many kids as we can. Once outside, call 911 to let them know who you are, where you are, and that you have your class with you. Then stay there! Police will come to you. Should we have students practice a scenario where we run?]]> 2016-11-08 13:49:59 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136082409 Scenario 3 https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136083924 Our fifth grade team wondered about locking the doors. We can only do this from the outside. We also considered where we would direct the students to run - woods vs. along the parking lot.]]> 2016-11-08 13:54:41 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136083924 Go bag: ladder, window punch, candy, things to keep kids occupied. Assign numbers to children so that they know who is missing when you count off https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136088559 2016-11-08 14:07:06 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136088559 Students need to practice in a child friendly way.  They need to know that where to hide and how to exit.  https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136091131 2016-11-08 14:13:57 UTC https://padlet.com/keimd/p5d8ucq6gj5a/wish/136091131