When a child does not know how to behave………We PUNISH THEM?! by TODD SYMINGTON https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc Made with good vibes en-us 2021-05-19 14:30:59 UTC 2021-09-27 01:04:58 UTC hello@padlet.com A. Donato https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684420176 No. It has to be backed up with learning new skills or ways to deal with situations. ]]> 2021-08-18 16:29:32 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684420176 We respond differently to teaching behavior because I think we are taught that good behavior means 'respect'. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684484126 2021-08-18 17:05:46 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684484126 No. Our prison system is a horrific failure. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684484968 2021-08-18 17:06:16 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684484968 erinyoung5 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684632036 Good question, though be careful to generalize. There are many skilled teachers who respond to less desirable behaviors in a way that redirects while teaching appropriate behaviors. ]]> 2021-08-18 18:35:58 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684632036 erinyoung5 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684632895 Not unless it is supported with opportunities to learn and grow.]]> 2021-08-18 18:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684632895 Responding to Behavior https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684855438 I think most of the time that adults incorrectly assume a child does have the skills to behave correctly but is choosing not to, and that's why they punish kids when they do not use good behavior. Punishments are also quicker and easier than teaching behaviors. -K. Newell]]> 2021-08-18 22:05:50 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684855438 Punishments in Society https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684856602 No, I don't think they work well. People are afraid of getting speeding tickets, for example, but that doesn't stop them from speeding - it just makes them sneakier about when they speed and trying not to get caught. ]]> 2021-08-18 22:07:33 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1684856602 Easier https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686448285 I think we frequently respond that way because it is easier to just respond with punishment rather than take the time to figure out why the child is acting that way. When you are faced with a classroom full of students and you need one to stop taking the class off track, its much easier to punish them than sit down and teach the skill]]> 2021-08-19 17:32:32 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686448285 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686449381 With how it is currently implemented in our society, no. Punishment alone does not work]]> 2021-08-19 17:33:16 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686449381 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686936924 No, some people aren't afraid of punishments /consequences]]> 2021-08-20 00:34:36 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686936924 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686941361 I think its because some people expect kids to know how to behave and when they don't they get punished. Whereas with skills, we know that kids need to be taught them so they don't get punished. We need to teach behavior]]> 2021-08-20 00:36:55 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1686941361 michelelaramie1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688454007 We choose not to teach behavior because adults expect children to know how to behave already. Some have not been taught or modeled how to behave.]]> 2021-08-20 19:52:17 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688454007 michelelaramie1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688456084 Punshiment does not work. If someone does something that causes them to be punished by the legal system, they need modeling and practice to change the choices they made to be punished. Our systems do not teach reform.]]> 2021-08-20 19:54:26 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688456084 We assume behaviors of school age students have already been taught. When we tell or teach something once doesn't mean it's a secure or proficient skill, but we expect that with behavior often. suzannekwasniewicz1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688515398 2021-08-20 20:55:34 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688515398 No, punishment can lower self-esteem, create anxiety, and anger. None of these outucomes support learning. suzannekwasniewicz1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688516400 2021-08-20 20:56:25 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1688516400 theresastevens1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1689089479 We respond to behavior differently because misbehavior not only affects the child, but those around them. If a child can't do math, that is not detrimental to anyone else. However, if a child misbehaves by being disruptive in class or hitting/abusing their peers, it harms the community. We get emotional and sometimes do not respond in the most effective way because we need that behavior to stop in order to protect others.]]> 2021-08-21 18:13:54 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1689089479 theresastevens1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1689090412 It does not work well at all. Especially how we do it in the United States. ]]> 2021-08-21 18:16:52 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1689090412 We respond differently for various possible reasons: we feel a loss of power or control, we don't have the tools or time to teach the desired behaviors effectively, we expect children to just know what we expect of them.. etc. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690005554 2021-08-23 01:33:31 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690005554 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690009747 No, punishment typically causes more problems and creates repeat offenders.   ]]> 2021-08-23 01:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690009747 jessicabarduca1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690294105 We assume that children have already been taught how to behave in all experiences when in reality, they might not have ever been taught how to behave in certain situations. ]]> 2021-08-23 03:34:02 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1690294105 It does not work well if a child does not understand their behavior and the actions that may result. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1692091185 2021-08-23 22:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1692091185 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1692092099 We assume that children know how to behave without takin into account the may have been raided with different values.]]> 2021-08-23 22:33:21 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1692092099 No, punishment is not effective. Removing someone from a situation when it endangers others or hinders their ability to thrive is reasonable, but it needs to be coupled with opportunities to learn new behaviors. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1694511531 2021-08-24 22:50:16 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1694511531 it does work by protecting the other students and staff from the student but without helping the problem to learn how to behave we all lose - so no in the long run it does not work https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1694735026 2021-08-25 01:00:26 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1694735026 stevenbutton2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696824013 It may be because many children display appropriate behavior and a few may not. Maybe people assume that by a certain age, children should have already been taught, or they should just know how to behave in certain situations.]]> 2021-08-25 20:54:16 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696824013 stevenbutton2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696826427 I think that often times punishment works fast, but not well.]]> 2021-08-25 20:56:11 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696826427 We often expect children to know how to behave if they are told once or twice. We expect them to model positive behavior but don't really teach them. We view them as little adults. But they are not--they are all at different levels in learning positive behavior- Many adults see this as not the same as learning a skill such as riding a bike. Many adults don't have the patience to help student to learn positive behavior. antoinettearkenburg2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696906026 2021-08-25 22:18:42 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696906026 It doesn't always help the individual to learn from mistakes and to make better choices in the future. antoinettearkenburg2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696906614 2021-08-25 22:19:23 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1696906614 Abigail Biddinger https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698587148 We are frustrated when students do not already know that their behavior is inappropriate. ]]> 2021-08-26 14:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698587148 Abigail Biddinger https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698587945 Not for the mass. I think for some it does, but for many it does not. ]]> 2021-08-26 14:35:39 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698587945 Jeff Young https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698603879 There are many reasons. I think we assume that behaviors should be learned at an early age, but it tends to vary depending on the child.]]> 2021-08-26 14:42:50 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698603879 Jeff Young https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698607619 It is hard to say for everyone, but overall it does not appear to be effective.]]> 2021-08-26 14:44:38 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698607619 Jon Vondrasek https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698724869 Its almost like we expect kids to just know how to behave and sometimes don't realize that it is a skill that needs to be taught. ]]> 2021-08-26 15:39:08 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698724869 Jon Vondrasek jonvondrasek1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698728979 Right now, no. So much of our society has changed because of the social media element. ]]> 2021-08-26 15:41:07 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698728979 At this time not sure, everyone is doing their own thing, own ideas https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698871914 2021-08-26 16:49:45 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698871914 maybe it just depends on the day, time for that person https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698872606 2021-08-26 16:50:09 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698872606 I think at times we react instead of taking the time to equip a student with those skills. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875288 I also think it's because of what may be going on with us at the time.]]> 2021-08-26 16:51:25 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875288 Behavior can affect everyone around that student. Also, a lot of the times people almost expect certain behaviors from students. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875696 2021-08-26 16:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875696 Sometimes https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875887 2021-08-26 16:51:46 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698875887 Not really. For some, yes, but it can create a lot of issues. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698876575 2021-08-26 16:52:08 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1698876575 I have not done a lot of research on it, but I feel like overall it does not result in a positive behavior change on a majority of the population. julieszlaga1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699378173 2021-08-26 23:05:54 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699378173 Many times there is reasons behind the behaviors and it takes time for those to come to the surface depending on the situation and child. Many times we assume a child should know how to act or react, but that is often not the case or taught at home so it is important to keep that in mind. julieszlaga1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699380376 2021-08-26 23:08:28 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699380376 When the behavior is disruptive and/or inappropriate we try to stop that behavior. When a child is lacking a skill academically we work hard with them to succeed. We need to find how to do this with behavior in our classroom. kathrynlacroix2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699541788 2021-08-27 00:42:48 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699541788 It can at times. You have to find a balance and you have to find what helps each child. If a child will really work hard to make sure they don't lose recess then that might be an appropriate punishment (but its also an incentive--they can earn extra). kathrynlacroix2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699546544 2021-08-27 00:44:35 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1699546544 jeanpeedle1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700654444 I think sometimes when a student misbehaves or has a behavior problem it not only impacts the student but impacts other students and staff. We want to stop it immediately before it grows out of control. When a student lacks the ability to do an academic task we can focus on that . Now this is just a general answer and I am aware there are many different situations.]]> 2021-08-27 11:59:17 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700654444 jeanpeedle1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700658213 I really do not feel qualified to speak on how prisons deal with behavior/ pinishment issues.  However, I have known people who have benefitted from certain programs and I have known some people who have had punishments that have not helped them to change.
Overall, I do not think punishment is helpful at any level. I do not have alternatives in some situations when it comes to adults.]]> 2021-08-27 12:03:31 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700658213 Because that has been the societal norm...it's on us to change it. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700844515 2021-08-27 14:05:12 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700844515 Not really, it has, but doesn't prove to be the best strategy. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700845508 2021-08-27 14:05:47 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700845508 gaylekillingbeck1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700870337 A quick fix that doesn't work in my opinion is punishment. Communication and restorative practices have worked well in our school.]]> 2021-08-27 14:18:20 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700870337 gaylekillingbeck1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700873323 Doesn't seem to.
It all depends on the person.
I have seen negative responses as well as positive responses to punishment. ]]> 2021-08-27 14:19:51 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700873323 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700945902 Kathleen K.
We assume that children have already been taught how to behave in all situations/experiences, but in reality they might not have ever been taught/modeled how to behave in situations.]]> 2021-08-27 14:47:02 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700945902 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700948447 Kathleen K.
Not really in society as a whole]]> 2021-08-27 14:47:52 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700948447 I believe we respond to behavior differently is because we don't take the time and make the effort to do better. shellyfurtah3 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700955687 2021-08-27 14:51:55 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700955687 Overall, punishment is NOT effective in our society. shellyfurtah3 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700956518 2021-08-27 14:52:24 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1700956518 Because a behavior has a direct effect on other peoples learning https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701004086 2021-08-27 15:19:34 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701004086 NO, the prison system is overflowing with repeat offenders that haven't been given opportunities to get skills needed to be functioning members of society. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701006685 2021-08-27 15:20:58 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701006685 ryanbaker15 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701058063 I think we forgot behavior is an area that needs to be taught.]]> 2021-08-27 15:51:14 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701058063 ryanbaker15 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701067692 No.]]> 2021-08-27 15:57:16 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701067692 Because we react to the situation immediately without thinking or take the behavior personally. karynpasqualitto1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701078017 2021-08-27 16:04:01 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701078017 It does not really seem to work. karynpasqualitto1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701078908 2021-08-27 16:04:32 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701078908 I believe we all respond to behaviors differently. Until, as adults, we learn how to control our own behaviors, actions and feelings, it will be hard to help young people manage theirs. andreaedwards2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701084859 2021-08-27 16:08:49 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701084859 Extrinsically it can work, but we want intrinsic changes. andreaedwards2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701085625 2021-08-27 16:09:17 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701085625 jeannettebenner2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701205352 Generally, behaviors that we would punish are either emotionally, educationally, or physically harmful behaviors. We punish because that is the gut reaction to either being harmed or seeing someone else being harmed.]]> 2021-08-27 17:30:34 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701205352 jeannettebenner2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701208513 Looking at the most extreme example of punishment-jail-we can see that it does not work and is not fair. This is true of most other punishment as well, if the only goal of the punishment is to stop the behavior and not to educate the perpetrator.]]> 2021-08-27 17:32:22 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701208513 I think because someone was hurt. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701224572 2021-08-27 17:42:06 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701224572 No. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701224950 2021-08-27 17:42:23 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701224950 I think, when it happens, it is often because our emotions get the best of us. I also think its because sometimes things are extremely desctructive or harmful towards others, which brings punishment in life. But many parents do not punish because they know it doesn't work as an effective strategy. kirstengentry2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701237735 2021-08-27 17:51:09 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701237735 Nope-we repeatedly refuse to fix what is wrong with the system. kirstengentry2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701239509 2021-08-27 17:51:55 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701239509 Brazeau https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701257739 Tradition



]]> 2021-08-27 18:04:41 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701257739 Brazeau https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701259137 no]]> 2021-08-27 18:05:43 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701259137 tradition https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701477148 2021-08-27 21:29:54 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701477148 It can work but it depends on the situation https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701477404 2021-08-27 21:30:14 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701477404 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701522596 Because that's been the norm and tradition.]]> 2021-08-27 22:37:55 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701522596 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701522959 Nope.]]> 2021-08-27 22:38:31 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701522959 We respond differently because we think that others KNOW how to behave and are just choosing to behave in a certain way. chelseabanton1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701602526 2021-08-28 01:11:04 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701602526 It does not seem to. But it is the simplest method, so we stick with it. chelseabanton1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701603486 2021-08-28 01:12:53 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701603486 We respond based on our experience, what we've seen, learned and experienced. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701629835 2021-08-28 01:53:22 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701629835 Agree with Chelsea....it's the quickest solution, it offers a quick fix. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701630325 2021-08-28 01:54:11 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1701630325 amyfountain2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702030014 I honestly don't know. I guess maybe we feel like poor behavior is a choice.]]> 2021-08-28 15:33:56 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702030014 amyfountain2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702031754 If the goal of punishment (i.e. jail) is to stop bad behavior (in this case, crime), then it doesn't seem to be working since we still have crime.]]> 2021-08-28 15:37:00 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702031754 christinafifield1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702196508 I think it might be because so many times, a child's behavior is disrupting our plans for the class. They become a roadblock to learning for other kids. We feel the need to take care of it quickly, and teaching a behavior feels like it takes more time. (It's definitely worth it in the long run though if we teach a child versus try to deal with the behavior every time...)]]> 2021-08-28 22:22:52 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702196508 christinafifield1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702196677 All we need to do is look at our prison system to realize that it does not work. It is a punishment based system that does not rehabilitate. So many people are in and out and in and out of prison. These are lives that could have been rehabilitated with the proper teaching and support. ]]> 2021-08-28 22:23:34 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702196677 Shawn Kassab https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702242535 So, I believe that we respond differently because a negative behavior is something we want to "fix" quick, while we know that other things may require more time. I am not saying it right or okay, but I think that is why we respond differently. ]]> 2021-08-29 00:53:04 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702242535 Shawn Kassab https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702242900 I would say no. We still have crime happening all over the world. ]]> 2021-08-29 00:54:10 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702242900 Demko: We don't blame a student when they don't know something. We do when they misbehave because it hits us emotionally. We feel they need some correction instead of education. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702727624 2021-08-29 15:09:04 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702727624 Demko: Generally the way we uses punishment does not work because it is miss applied. There need to be goals and an understanding of consequences if some kind of punishment is considered. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702728817 2021-08-29 15:10:34 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702728817 suzanmilenkovich2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702907612 Like most everyone else here, I agree that it doesn't work. My question is what are some concrete options for the classroom. ]]> 2021-08-29 20:40:50 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702907612 suzanmilenkovich2 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702908783 I think it is because of the distraction to other students in the classroom and we don't think about teaching appropriate behaviors. I think it also varies by grade level. By high school, we tend to think students should know the expectations. ]]> 2021-08-29 20:43:26 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702908783 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702909323 I think we respond this way because the behavior is usually disruptive to the class. We feel it needs to be corrected, so that it isn't disruptive to other students and their learning. ]]> 2021-08-29 20:44:25 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702909323 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702909553 Not always]]> 2021-08-29 20:44:59 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1702909553 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1705123598 I think we always think behavior is bad and it annoys us more. We need to change our mindset about behavior instead of "punishing" the behavior, ask "what need isn't being met with this student?" "what is this student trying to tell me?"]]> 2021-08-30 18:15:11 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1705123598 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1705124587 It depends on the situation]]> 2021-08-30 18:15:42 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1705124587 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1716070858 I think it is situational, and dependent on the behaviors and results of that behaviors....I'm thinking of extreme situations in society. For children, punishment doesn't necessarily change behavior. The root of the behaviors needs to be explored. (Laura Orlowski)]]> 2021-09-03 21:19:51 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1716070858 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1716073542 We see bad behavior as a bad thing, and that the person with the bad behavior is fully in control of their behaviors. Bad behavior could be a way a child communicates something, but just doesn't know how to effectively say it. (Laura Orlowski)]]> 2021-09-03 21:22:22 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1716073542 Simplicity, quicker way to deal with it. we don't always want to put the time into teaching behavior. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732565565 2021-09-11 13:07:51 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732565565 in some cases yes. I don't know that the prison system is the best correlation to the school system of behavior... https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732566337 2021-09-11 13:08:43 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732566337 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732793531 It's how I was raised and easy to default to. It takes conscious thinking to not revert to punishing either as a teacher or as a parent. ]]> 2021-09-11 17:08:08 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1732793531 Upbringing. And sometimes our reaction is response to how the student/child is making us feel rather than a reaction geared toward changing the behavior https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1734086403 2021-09-12 19:06:04 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1734086403 Doesn't seem to be the most effective method https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1734099125 2021-09-12 19:19:43 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1734099125 Lack of time. It takes time from class and curriculum to teach behavior. It's hard to find time to teach a student behavior 1 on 1 and not in front of the whole class. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1743350189 2021-09-15 16:28:20 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1743350189 I think it takes time to train students to behave appropriately in class. It is more helpful if school and home are modeling similar expectations (obviously you don't need to raise your hand at home). https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1750401930 2021-09-18 13:21:19 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1750401930 Punishment does not seem to work possibly because the rehabilitation factor is not successful. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1750402473 2021-09-18 13:21:48 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1750402473 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752197280 I think we are not trained as well how to teach good behavior and we default to how we were taught as kids.]]> 2021-09-19 18:30:11 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752197280 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752198452 Punishment does not really work in our society as people need to learn or be taught how to behave differently.]]> 2021-09-19 18:31:08 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752198452 meghanwhite3 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752541126 Have we been trained to teach appropriate behaviors? It takes time away from content, but if we take the time we will be able to achieve so much more bc their may be less disruptions. It may also be due to us all being brought up with different ideas of behavior.]]> 2021-09-20 00:08:21 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752541126 meghanwhite3 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752542331 Depends on the severity of the behavior. Elementary aged students, I am not sure punishment is the best route. Teaching, modeling and giving them opportunities to practice and make better choices is the way to go!]]> 2021-09-20 00:09:27 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752542331 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752682943 I think that punishment was used very often when we grew up and changing the mindset of adults now is sometimes difficult. We as educators are lucky to have all this information on what works and doesn't work for children. Our parents did not have this information and some are still set in those old ways.]]> 2021-09-20 01:57:38 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752682943 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752684669 I think punishment was used in our parents era and it is hard for some adults to not use what they were taught as children.]]> 2021-09-20 01:58:48 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1752684669 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1754646738 I don't think punishment works well in our society. Using positive reinforcement and teaching citizens the expectations will have a much more positive result.]]> 2021-09-20 16:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1754646738 I think that we respond differently to behavior issues because it affects our emotions. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755549745 2021-09-20 22:49:13 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755549745 I believe punishment hurts more than helps in our society. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755550153 2021-09-20 22:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755550153 We don't if we work on it well!! karenbutler3 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755685978 2021-09-21 00:35:37 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1755685978 LaToya Harper https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758458372 I believe we respond to behavior differently than how we respond to every other time a child lack something based on our emotions/feelings in the moment and our personal belief system when we do see children behaving in ways we deem inappropriate.]]> 2021-09-21 21:50:56 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758458372 LaToya Harper https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758459687 Personally I don't think punishment works well in our society. I actually think it makes matters worse. ]]> 2021-09-21 21:52:00 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758459687 Kristi Donehue https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758564332 Good question! It does not make any sense to me why this is. Maybe bad behavior somehow offends us on a personal level or we take it personally so have an emotional/irrational response in dealing with it?]]> 2021-09-21 23:30:23 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758564332 Kristi Donehue https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758566812 No, not only does it not work well, it is emotionally harmful and will be more costly to society in the long run. Our prison system comes to mind...]]> 2021-09-21 23:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1758566812 C Porterfield https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761102797 I think we may respond differently to behavior because we are not trained and well prepared to deal with behavior as we are with improving a child's academic skills. ]]> 2021-09-22 20:20:55 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761102797 Christina Fernandez. I think teachers take too much personally and don't get to know the students to figure out why the are misbehaving https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761317895 I]]> 2021-09-22 23:16:30 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761317895 Christina Fernandez. Nope. Nope. Nope. It just creates a vicious cycle https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761318737 2021-09-22 23:17:19 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761318737 christopherdeyonke1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761336177 Some people feel that there are learning skills that need to be taught by teachers, while they feel behaviors need to be taught by parents. This thinking needs to be adjusted]]> 2021-09-22 23:33:11 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1761336177 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1763193066 I think there is an assumption that behaviors are being taught in the home. But if they are not, it is not the child's fault.]]> 2021-09-23 14:32:41 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1763193066 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1763196157 I think our punishment system definitely needs adjusting. But I don't believe that all punishment should be avoided. I think we need to carefully analyze our systems and brainstorm new methods.]]> 2021-09-23 14:33:43 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1763196157 katedonnellyharris1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764096236 I believe that behavioral expectations can be different for different people. ]]> 2021-09-23 21:30:35 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764096236 katedonnellyharris1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764096960
No. Punishment creates resentment and doesn't teach expected behaviors.


]]> 2021-09-23 21:31:18 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764096960 Often times we assume that children come to us and "should" know a skill, but many times they do not. I have worked aggressively to make no assumptions about my students including their behaviors. rachelsims1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764543035 2021-09-24 01:54:49 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764543035 Punishment works in some situations, but not many. Self-punishment seems to be more motivating then actual punishment. Our systems plan to rehabilitate but using punishment tends to create more recidivism and resentment. rachelsims1 https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764551936 2021-09-24 01:58:53 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1764551936 Natalie Nowak https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1765822697 Unfortunately, I feel like teachers react this way because this was the reaction we received or saw from our teachers growing up. It takes a major effort to change the way that things have been done for so long. ]]> 2021-09-24 14:27:03 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1765822697 Natalie Nowak https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1765824675 Punishment does not work well in the way that we are currently doing it. Looking at a student's behavior by using a more restorative way is much more helpful. ]]> 2021-09-24 14:27:46 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1765824675 Do not punish teach first https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1766394973 Students need the ability to learn how to control themselves and act correct. ]]> 2021-09-24 18:45:29 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1766394973 Often times it seems we rely on old ideas and practices in a system that has historically seemed to rely on punishment. The focus on changing the behavior or compliance rather than developing a skill. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1767488088 2021-09-25 15:40:28 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1767488088 From the school to prison pipeline to "rehabilitation" I think this has not proven to be a viable option. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1767489016 2021-09-25 15:41:19 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1767489016 I agree with Ms. Donnelly-Harris. Punishments create resentment. It does not "teach" the proper behavior, but instead uses negative reaction and receive a negative result. https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1769521958 2021-09-27 01:03:47 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1769521958 I think we need to retrain adults in current practices. When most teachers were younger, their discipline was punishment. We need to educate our peers in other ways. (Restorative practices!) https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1769524408 2021-09-27 01:04:58 UTC https://padlet.com/toddsymington1/p4zhlemch7t6kofc/wish/1769524408