Group 1 by https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub Let's talk en-us 2020-04-28 08:56:03 UTC 2020-05-17 12:17:15 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f914.png liesbethvanmaele https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/545584223 Discuss the following questions:
1) Should billionaires be obligated to donate substantial sums of money to charities during pandemics? 
2) Are young adults less mature than past generations?]]> 2020-05-02 13:57:43 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/545584223 estelle_vanraes https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559387971 My point of view about obligating billionaires to donate substantial sums during pandemics is that it's their money, so they have the right to decide for themselves.  As they worked for it, but on the other hand if there is a crisis and people are dying because there is a shortage of money and there are people who have a huge amount of money and they can help other people with it, I would recommend donating, but I wouldn't obligate people to do this.  I think if billionaires have a good heart, they would donate automatically.   In conclusion, it shouldn't be an obligation in my opinion ]]> 2020-05-08 09:36:22 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559387971 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559390266 Should billionaires be obligated to donate substantial sums of money to charities during pandemics?                                                                                    If you're a billionaire, I'm sure you've got money on the surplus. If you can spare money, I think it's human to give a share to charities. I don't think we should obligate it, people should want it. I think people need to realize for themselves that they can help, and I think if they do it voluntarily, they'll get more satisfaction out of it. But you can suggest it and show them what they can do and who they can help. In the end, it's their money and they've worked hard for it, so they choose what to do with it. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:37:43 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559390266 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559403040 My opinion about the donations is that as a billionaire you decide for yourself what you do with the money. Of course I think it's good to donate money for research. I certainly wouldn't oblige it, it's something you decide. Many billionaires such as Bill Gates have already put a lot of money in searching for a vaccine for corona. That puts this man in a good daylight and that is certainly good publicity for him. So no, it shouldn't be an obligation, but I think it's a good thing for billionaires especially if you are known all over the world.  

]]> 2020-05-08 09:45:05 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559403040 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559403118 I hold the same opinion as Estelle. Billionaires work hard for their money so they choose what they want to do with it. And you can't obligate people to donate, but you can recommend it. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:45:08 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559403118 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559408643 I agree with Iva up to a point. If they donate the money and get good publicity, do they do it to help or for themselves? ]]> 2020-05-08 09:48:24 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559408643 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559408908 I totally agree with Saar, it's human to donate money, certainly if you see how many people died already. But you can't force them to do it, you can only suggest it. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:48:34 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559408908 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559411321 I think the same as you guys, I wouldn't oblige them, because most rich people have had to work hard for their money, but on the other hand they could make a difference. If they would all donate a part now, the government could do a lot with that money, for example to donate to laboratories or hospitals. The government could then say that they could make their name known. I think they could also have a sense of satisfaction themselves, that their money would help them find a vaccination quicker. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:49:50 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559411321 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559414113 @Saar
It's just the combination of the 2 that would make them consider it sooner, I think. If it turns out positively for the 2 sides, why not?
Of course there are also those who don't do it for publicity, just for themselves. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:51:30 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559414113 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559418585 @Iva You have a point there. They'll probably consider it sooner if they have an advantage of their own. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:54:09 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559418585 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421213 2) Are young adults less mature than past generations?        I find this question difficult because we can't really know what previous generations were like at our age. But I think they used to be more independent because they didn't have cell phones. They probably had to help more in the household than we did. They also had to work earlier than we did. Most of them didn't study any further.  I don't think they were more mature than we are, but they're more independent.                      ]]> 2020-05-08 09:55:38 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421213 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421249 I think everyone has the same opinion about whether billionaires should donate money or not. Nobody can force them to do anything, but just suggest it.]]> 2020-05-08 09:55:39 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421249 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421456 I share the opinion that you can't force billionaries to donate money. On the other hand, they are the ones who can donate a large sum of money without losing anything. For example, many football players donate to a local hospital or take part in voluntary actions organised by their football team. There are also people who massively purchase laptops to use in retirement homes or for children who do not have a laptop at home. It's important that everyone helps in their own way. But of course you expect that wealthy people, like billionaries, will at least be part of one of those solidarity actions.]]> 2020-05-08 09:55:47 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559421456 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559426692 I also follow Manou in her opinion and I think a lot of  billionaires do a lot of things without really being known in the media.]]> 2020-05-08 09:58:34 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559426692 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559429445 That they don't necessarily do it for themselves (for fame), but to make others happy and help others.]]> 2020-05-08 10:00:12 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559429445 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559430194  @ Jozefien It's action that counts, not words!]]> 2020-05-08 10:00:38 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559430194 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559431357 indeed]]> 2020-05-08 10:01:23 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559431357 sarah_vervaecke https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559483714 I don't think itis a good idea to obligate anyone to do something like that, but of course it would be nice and good thing to do. You would be helping out the sick people and other people who culd really use a bit of money. Although I don't understand why it should just be during pandemics. To be honest I think that even if there isn't a pandemic going on it would still be a good thing for them to donate some money to charities. There are a lot of people all over the world that don't have it as good as us.]]> 2020-05-08 10:34:22 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559483714 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559487359 Good comment!]]> 2020-05-08 10:36:46 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559487359 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559490097 I’m completely following your opinion ]]> 2020-05-08 10:38:43 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559490097 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559495975 It should indeed be a natural reflex to make donations throughout the year depending your personal capacity.]]> 2020-05-08 10:42:21 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559495975 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559499632 Regarding the second question, I agree up to a point, because if we go back some time in the past, young adults had to be much more independent than we are now. You had an important role in the family to accomplish: you had to do your part in the household, take care of your siblings. But over the years, this obligation diminished. I think our parents weren’t much more mature than we are now. It also depends on the zeitgeist.

In my opinion, Corona has certainly made us more mature. We're in a crisis where it's crucial to stick to the rules. This also requires maturity, I think.
At the end, we'll come out even more independent. These are trials that certainly put our maturity to the test.
]]> 2020-05-08 10:44:51 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559499632 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559509220 I agree up to a point with Manou,  the crisis has rules and there are so many people who don't follow them for example my neighbour. Every day I see that he invites many different people to his garden to drink some beer. If we would test his maturity, he won't pass. 
So I would say that most of the people now are more mature, because our society is based on individualism. You have to take care of yourself and solve your own problems. But this isn't accurate to all of the people. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:51:34 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559509220 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559522227 I couldn't agree more with Manou and with Iva. We must indeed follow the rules and be mature about it. This will certainly test our adulthood. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:01:09 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559522227 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559528235 I share the same opinion as Manou. young adults used to be more independent than us, because they had to do a lot in the household and had to take care of their families. And I completely agree with you that it has diminished. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:05:28 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559528235 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559529885 I think, aside from the corona crisis, that we as young people are in a way less mature than, for example, my grandparents at our age. They lived in different circumstances, for example on a farm. They always had to help from early in the morning until late at night. Once they became adults, they had to find someone suitable to marry and start a family. If you look at our generation, when we turn 18, we will study even further. In the old days this was not of the order. Going to college, certainly nothing for a girl; you should help in the house. Now, most young people leave the house later, because they get the opportunity to study.]]> 2020-05-08 11:06:42 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559529885 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559530291 I also agree with Saar]]> 2020-05-08 11:07:01 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559530291 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559532403 I see it in that way, too Jozefien. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:08:41 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559532403 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559533542 their life was different from our life now. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:09:34 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559533542 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559539239 I totally agree with Iva because, growing up is also about being able to take responsibility. In this corona crisis, people need to know what can and cannot be done. Some people don't have the responsibility to say no and don't follow the imposed rules.]]> 2020-05-08 11:13:42 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559539239 iva_zoteva https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559541948 I can find myself in Jozefien's opinion, the other generation had a different life and did different things that we do now. It's hard to compare these two ]]> 2020-05-08 11:15:32 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559541948 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559548179 @iva @saar  That's the way I think about it, too]]> 2020-05-08 11:20:05 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559548179 sarah_vervaecke https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559548528 My opinion on the second question is that I don't think the young adults from this generations are less mature. They just don't have to grow up as fast anymore as the case was for a long time in our history. And to be honest I think it a good thing. They should be able to enjoy the young and cheerful life for as long as possible.]]> 2020-05-08 11:20:20 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559548528 manou_carpels https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559553102 You certainly have a point Sarah. We should stay young as long as possible. Something we sometimes forget to do, unfortunately!]]> 2020-05-08 11:23:31 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559553102 saar_cools https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559557138 You've made a good point Manou! ]]> 2020-05-08 11:26:23 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559557138 jozefien_lannoye https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559569262 Indeed!]]> 2020-05-08 11:34:48 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559569262 estelle_vanraes https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559625893 I go along with Saar her idea that our pas generations were more independent as they didn't have a cellphone. As result that they need to solution their problems, if they had one. For example they couldn't call their mom, if they missed their train. Moreover as Saar said they helped a lot more in the households than our generations do know. I think this has to do with the way parents educate their kids now with a lot more freedom while before you only listen what your parents told you without arguing. ]]> 2020-05-08 12:13:36 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559625893 estelle_vanraes https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559629896 Even though, I go really along with Saar her point. I can see  a point in Jozefien's argument aswell ! ]]> 2020-05-08 12:16:11 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/p4b8pmla4pjmdhub/wish/559629896