BCF Conference 2023 - London: Workshop 1 by https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u Croydon & Buckinghamshire en-us 2023-11-09 12:31:24 UTC 2023-11-16 11:22:28 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-uploads.storage.googleapis.com/2195224092/eddcf6514778f2767ba2c547717de005/BCF_Banner_8.png The Three Bucket split https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792236005 The split sounds an interesting way to categorise your schemes. What sort of criteria do you use to split your services across the three buckets?

]]> 2023-11-16 10:29:17 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792236005 Housing https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792240084 Interested to hear more about what you do in this space.

]]> 2023-11-16 10:33:07 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792240084 Role of voluntary sector https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792245663 Have you found that bringing system partners together through the Alliance and having an Alliance contract has strengthened the role and voice of the voluntary sector, alongside other health and social care partners?

]]> 2023-11-16 10:38:27 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792245663 PIC team and adaptations https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792246056 Do PIC workers have a link with Disabled Facilities Grant leads for home adaptations?

EDIT - just answered!

]]> 2023-11-16 10:38:51 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792246056 What is the entry point to Croydon’s services? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792250851 2023-11-16 10:43:07 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792250851 Shared Outcomes https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792259207 In creating shared outcomes, is there a system-wide outcomes framework with measurable outcomes co-developed through the Alliance?

]]> 2023-11-16 10:51:07 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792259207 Housing and workforce https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792259750 Great to see encouraging and supporting independent living. How does this align with a care workforce to support individuals?

]]> 2023-11-16 10:51:39 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792259750 MH accomm https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792261851 We hear a lot of noise about the lack of specialist MH housing causing long discharge delays. Is this similar for Bucks and is this data part of your assessment of need?

]]> 2023-11-16 10:53:42 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792261851 New developments https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792265290 Have you had many examples of converting existing buildings to be able to provide care? Eg where land is more limited

]]> 2023-11-16 10:56:24 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792265290 Planning applications https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792270592 have you got any tips on how you link with developers and convince them to take your views on board?


]]> 2023-11-16 11:01:28 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792270592 DFG? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792271195 I didn’t hear you mention this funding stream. Do you align in more now you are a unitary?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:02:06 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792271195 links with Health colleagues https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792271551 Is there a lot of interest from your Health colleagues in housing, and any thoughts on building that interest?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:02:23 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792271551 Governance https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792272313 What governance arrangements are in place to strengthen the link with health partners?  How integrated are the local governance arrangements?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:03:06 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792272313 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792273746 Lots of people were involved in Nora's case - how was this considered so she didn't have to repeat her story over and over?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:04:33 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792273746 Whole council needs assessment is interesting 3.6% wheelchair users - having access to these stats to take to meetings madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792274674 2023-11-16 11:05:25 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792274674 One Croydon-what were the barriers in coming together originally? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792274937 2023-11-16 11:05:38 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792274937 Overcoming challenges https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275055 What difficulties did the system face in bringing the various partners together including managing joint finance arrangements?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:05:46 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275055 Valuable to also gain feedback from wheelchair users madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275088 2023-11-16 11:05:47 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275088 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275181 Would like to go to Surrey to have a look. The integrated aspect is not there for every council. How can we look at it more focussed

]]> 2023-11-16 11:05:53 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275181 Unpaid carers https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275209 How are unpaid carers involved and supported

]]> 2023-11-16 11:05:54 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275209 PIC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275294 It would be interesting to see their job description and all they cover

]]> 2023-11-16 11:06:00 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275294 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275702 What does the GP collaborative being integrated into the plans mean in practice for Croydon?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:06:26 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275702 Intermediate care https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275873 How did you merge intermediate care and reablement services

]]> 2023-11-16 11:06:36 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275873 Makes you appreciate the importance of getting health round the table madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275886 2023-11-16 11:06:37 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792275886 One Croydon-overlaps in roles https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276223 is there an opportunity linking in/overlapping PIC roles with social prescribers and how can we better maximise relationships?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:06:59 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276223 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276225 What was the process for involving all of these different partners in One Croydon?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:06:59 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276225 Croydon- Good to see the structure and branding of the scheme- this can be a challenge as there is confusion about what different teams do https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276433 2023-11-16 11:07:11 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276433 Fantastic collaboration https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276479 How has this really been achieved?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:07:14 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276479 How do you work as a part of the wider ICS? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276646 2023-11-16 11:07:25 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276646 Challenge of joined up working with districts - importance of looking at eligibility criteria - risk of missing whole cohort of people madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276707 2023-11-16 11:07:28 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276707 Can famies self refer into PIC? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276940 2023-11-16 11:07:41 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792276940 Outcomes https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277317 Have you had success in identifying system outcomes, eg the invest to save argument?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:08:02 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277317 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277413 how they link in with DFG/housing colleagues

]]> 2023-11-16 11:08:09 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277413 Can we have more information on shift back into general need housing and how this was done? madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277773 2023-11-16 11:08:28 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277773 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277872 What proportion of pooled fund has been ringfenced for preventio

]]> 2023-11-16 11:08:34 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792277872 Business Case https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278343 In terms of the business cases regarding land, where does this business case go for approval?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:08:56 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278343 Workforce/staff issues came across but welcome to hear more or cultural changes that have happened https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278546 2023-11-16 11:09:09 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278546 Financial sustainability of schemes https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278566 Going forwards, given ICBs and LAs under financial pressure, how are you going to sustain the good work?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:09:10 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278566 Prevention https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278664 To what extent are prevention services reliant on pooled funds vs other funding sources

]]> 2023-11-16 11:09:15 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792278664 discussed the importance of ensuring the right conversations are held early enough with the right people to ensure the right people madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279148 2023-11-16 11:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279148 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279320 how to join up housing

]]> 2023-11-16 11:09:50 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279320 What at the lessons learnt that could be shared with others? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279729 We all know this is the fright things to do but how do we take people with us to an achieve such a model?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:10:14 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792279729 How do we use BCF to navigate all of the various sections of the system that a person needs? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280375 2023-11-16 11:10:53 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280375 Third sector contract https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280483 What’s the sustainability of £ for third sector and contract relationship - service specific or long term mainstream funding for vcse organisations that support third sector capacity

]]> 2023-11-16 11:10:58 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280483 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280562 How do these councils do pilots? Do they grant fund or tender?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:11:02 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280562 How does the governance arrangement work? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280755 2023-11-16 11:11:14 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792280755 Conflict? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792281937 Do charitable organisations find they come against conflict with their organisational objectives when delivering care across the whole population. How do you overcome such potential barriers

]]> 2023-11-16 11:12:25 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792281937 Working better as a collective with DFG how can this be improved? madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792281946 2023-11-16 11:12:25 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792281946 Homes for Life https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282383 more info on this please - what are the criteria, and how have you made these happen?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:12:46 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282383 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282423 how is the joint working reflected in the BCF governance?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:12:48 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282423 Accountability https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282747 Discussed roles and key infrastructure to effect these projects eg Croydon role jointly funded by Acute trust and ICB

]]> 2023-11-16 11:13:09 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282747 Policy links https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282849 Is there connection with housing assistance policy and DFG?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:13:16 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792282849 Sharing resources/discussions/good practice across wider areas would be helpful rather than needing to reinvent the wheel for each new challenge. If research has been done or frameworks developed, these should be shared https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283120 2023-11-16 11:13:33 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283120 How much community input was involved and how do you involve the voice of the local community in your planning? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283861 2023-11-16 11:14:08 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283861 Existing stock https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283950 How is work making the best use of existing housing stocks and maximising potential from adaptations

]]> 2023-11-16 11:14:14 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792283950 Unique approaches-not one size fits all https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284742 2023-11-16 11:15:06 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284742 Is model applicable elsewhere? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284781 Croydon have made the alliance model work including jointly funded key senior posts - how adaptable could this be for other places e.g. with a different local population profile?

]]> 2023-11-16 11:15:07 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284781 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284855 how did Croydon focus on prevention and what exercise tools did they use

]]> 2023-11-16 11:15:13 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284855 How did the person get referred? https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284921 2023-11-16 11:15:17 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792284921 Where is co-production? madeleineelliott https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792285070 2023-11-16 11:15:26 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792285070 Buckinghamshire https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792285303 Planning teams are so overstretched, getting their buy in for early heads uponcommissioning opportunities is difficult. What are your arrangements/processes from point of application to connectivity with potential developers? Other than ASCgoing on the planning portal, we have struggle to get support.

]]> 2023-11-16 11:15:41 UTC https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792285303 https://padlet.com/TheBetterCareFundteam/ox2ixftlyhb4cr5u/wish/2792292323 The slide that set out the number of services involved in Nora's re-independence is very powerful.

It also highlights that delays or missed opportunities in identification can end up costing and involving more services.


So, how do we engage with communities and individuals that are unaccustomed or unaware of the support available?

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