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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1. Who were the new middle-class Progressives and what did they want?&nbsp; Just how progressive and successful was the progressive era?<br><br>2. What were the pros and cons of scientific management?&nbsp; Is school today influenced by its principles?<br><br>3. Were workers in the early 1900s "free?"&nbsp; Explain.<br><br>4. How did supporters of industry and big business view the 1880s - 1910?  How did they justify or "sell" what was positive about capitalism?</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Week 4</title>
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         <pubDate>2022-01-15 15:07:36 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Elijah:</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1. The new middle-class Progressives was a group of people that wanted to reform America from what it had turned into during the Gilded Age. For example, the women wanted suffrage along with other rights that would make them equal to men, African Americans fought for civil rights, workers sought to make the workplace safer, and some wanted to keep the environment safe as cities grew. There was a lot that came out of the progressive era especially since woman finally got the right to vote with the 19th amendment towards the end of the era and antitrust laws were passed; however, African Americans still lacks freedoms they needed to truly be equal to whites and workplaces still weren't the safest nor were the wages anything great.<br><br>2. Some of the pros of scientific management is that is sped up production, increased profits, and allowed people to get get jobs without much skill; however, some of the cons of scientific management is that some skilled labors lost their jobs and became unskilled laborers, people were still making the same amount while companies grew, and people were required just do the same task over and over again. School today is influenced by it because we go for 7 hours, have a set lunch break, sit in rows, are dismissed by bells, bathroom breaks, and the classes are broken down in a specific schedule so that we can be as "productive" as possible.<br><br>3. No, workers in the early 1900s were not "free" because they often had to do whatever their employer told them to do, and if they failed to do so, they would just be replaced because there were other people waiting in line to get a job. The only real way for a worker to be "free" is for them to be self employed, so everyone in the factory had to listen to their employer, and if they tried to go on strike for change, the employer, along with the government, would try to force them back to work.<br><br>4. Supporters of industry and big business viewed the 1880s - 1910 as their time since during this time much of the big businesses started, and it led to the first millionaire. They justified and "sold" what was positive about capitalism by creating the idea that anyone had the ability to strike it rich with their lives just like many other prominent business men at the time. One other way that they justified it was through the idea of social darwinism since it was the survival of the fittest, and the people that were the the most fit would be the ones that climb the social pyramid and become wealthy and powerful.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-01-25 19:42:04 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Hayden Taylor</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1. The middle class progressives were groups of people that wanted power out of the wealthy people's hands, and back into the hands of the general population.&nbsp; The general population wanted their class to go back to the times prior to the massive industrial revolution.&nbsp; When big businesses took over the middle class was forced into these jobs and poor working conditions.&nbsp; The Jim Crow Laws in the south and the lack of women's suffrage along with the problems occuring in politics, the middle class wanted to revert back to before the Industrial Revolution.&nbsp; Women received their right to vote with the 19th amendment but the idea of "separate but equal" was not true as white people establishments were clearly much better than those for African Americans.<br><br>2. Scientific management was essentially what allowed the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age to occur.&nbsp; It brought the idea that the faster and cheaper you could produce goods, the more money you would make.&nbsp; Now this idea opened up tons of jobs for the middle class that they could rely on because these businesses were looking for help.&nbsp; Another pro of this concept is that it was mostly unskilled labor so these jobs were not hard to acquire.&nbsp; Some of the cons of this are that the workers were often put into poor working situations, skilled laborers weren't hardly as important and these workers were required to have a set schedule and work a certain amount of time.&nbsp; At school us students are required to follow a certain schedule and we are also required to come to school for a certain amount of time.&nbsp; In the industrial revolution this was all done to increase productivity, but nowadays it is done is school to not only increase productivity, but also just for conveniency.<br><br>3. Workers in the early 1900s were absolutely not free.&nbsp; Living conditions were poor and this meant that the middle and lower class were required to work.&nbsp; This need for work allowed companies to barely pay their employees much of anything, and to make their employees work lots of hours a day.&nbsp; Since everybody was so desperate for work, if a worker were to not follow instructions, they could simply be replaced since somebody else would be desperate for work.&nbsp; This is why the formation of unions began and the workers began to go on strikes.&nbsp; These companies were forcing poor work conditions on their workers and so the working class decided to fight back.<br>4. Supporters of industry and big businesses really liked the period from 1880-1910 because this was a time where many businesses rose up and the owners of these businesses were making tons of money.  Capitalism allowed these owners to strike rich from their mass production of goods and they had a very easy way to support capitalism.  They simply said that they started out where everybody else was and anybody could get rich.  This statement is true, but it takes a lot of things to go right, and it is simply not reasonable to assume that anybody can get rich from their company.  As the working class, these reasons to support capitalism carried no weight since they worked hard everyday and were stuck where they were due to their poor working conditions.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-01-26 01:48:43 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Karly-</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1.&nbsp; The Progressives wanted social reform. Progressives mainly consisted of writers, photographers, and politicians. They were weary of capitalism and believed there needed to be a government that changed with the times. They highlighted and exploited the faults of New America. The Progressive Era was also when women began their fight for rights, like the right to vote. Although there were some laws that made that world towards equality, few people with power enforced them.<br>2. Scientific management analyzes ways to make things run the most efficient that they can. In this time it was for factories which benefited making more products in a shorter amount of time, but valued the workers needs very little. I do feel this has influences schools. Schools push large amounts of information at students sometimes without thinking about the student.<br>3. Worker in the early 1900s were captive to factories and those that owned them.<br>4. Supporters of industry viewed this time as the beginning of success. They justify and persuade capitalism as something positive since people are receiving work and products are being made.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Cade</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1. The Progressive Era can be almost be summed up in a word or two, "reform" or "change". The new middle class Progressives is just like to sounds, the middle class, ministers, teachers, lawyers, business people/entrepreneurs, etc... simply wanted more freedoms, rights, and better overall treatment, and not just for themselves, but also for oppressed groups like African Americans and woman who had very few to no rights. This Era was successful for some but not for others as Woman did get the right to vote via the 19th Amendment but it would still be around 40 years before African Americans would get racial equality because of the Civil Rights Movement.&nbsp;<br><br>2. Pros include-better production, more control over things, less inaccuracies/miscalculations, and reduced cost production. Cons include- requires higher capital, management takes control, not suitable for teams, and often has a motivational approach. I do not think scientific management affects schools today as curriculums are more often than not in the hands of the teachers and the classroom today seems a lot more student paced being the opposite of scientific management.<br><br>3. Workers in the 1900s were not really free as the conditions were horrible, no benefits, and wages were less than 30 cents an hour. But due to a variety of factors like education, poverty, and location, trying to further your education, move or change jobs was near impossible, so most workers were locked into their respective jobs for life never to be freed until death really.<br><br>4. Supports of big business and industry saw the 1880s-1910s as a time of great profit and production due to various machinery and cheap labor fueling manufacturing country wide. The idea of capitalism was "sold" to people as basically the more you spend, the more you will eventually get back which essentially lead to the Great Depression slowly but surely. The positives of capitalism though were that people were able to move up or down in social class depending upon what they did with their money, the overall freedom of deciding what to get was the major positive of capitalism.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Leah Harvey</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<ol><li>The middle class of the Progressive Era were people who wanted to reform their surroundings in order to revert it back to the Gilded Age. People wanted to be treated equally and they wanted to be considered one of the same, African Americans wanted civil rights and worker’s wanted safety. The progressive era had a lot of progressive movements, many people joined efforts to reform local government, public education, medicine, finance, insurance, industry, railroads, and churches. You could consider the progressive era successful as it did get people what they wanted as well as more, such as women getting the right to vote.</li><li>Some pros included production speed up and as well increased profits which encouraged people to join that scientific management. However, the cons came in when skilled laborers began to lose their jobs.</li><li>No, workers were not free especially in the 1900’s. They had to do as their higher ups told them or else they would be laid off. There wasn’t room for mistakes and a mistake could cost them their job.</li><li>The 1880-1910’s were seen as a point of big business which led to the first millionaire. It was the thought of everyone working for their own accord or for the government that sold capitalism. Working for others wasn’t that popular.</li></ol><div><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Ariana </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>1. The new middle-class Progressives were groups that wanted the power to be divided more fairly again. The mass population felt that the power needed to switch away from the wealthy and back to everyone else. The Progressives took on normal jobs/ roles in society such as photographers and writers. The had seen the change that happened after the Industrial Revolution and wanted to go back to those times.&nbsp;<br>2. Scientific management was what let the Industrial Revolution begin. Big factories and manufactures benefitted by making more products in a shorter amount of time, but the lower workers were not valued and their need were not met. I feel that this influences schools because schools push the required amount of information at their students. Sometimes not keeping the students feelings and backgrounds in mind.&nbsp;<br>3. Workers in the early 1900s were not free. They were constantly under the reign and rules of their employer. They also did not receive great rights or recognition for the hard work that they do.<br>4. Supporters pf industry viewed this time as the beginning of a great success. They explain capitalism as something that is positive because they saw it as people getting jobs and products were continuing getting made. &nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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