Mini Debate Cons by Susan O'Hara https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx en-us 2020-10-21 10:10:27 UTC 2026-02-04 01:04:25 UTC hello@padlet.com Crewmates don't respect him https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849312725 While he is asleep, his crew kills the sheep after he tells them they are not allowed to.]]> 2020-10-21 16:04:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849312725 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849314342 Selfish, only listen for himself.]]> 2020-10-21 16:04:49 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849314342 He wasn't in control of his men and they slaughtered the cattle https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849314702 2020-10-21 16:04:54 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849314702 Didn’t tell his crew about Scylla A_Chandavarkar https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317213 Odysseus didn’t want them to be distracted by the fact that 6 of them were going to die. ]]> 2020-10-21 16:05:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317213 Didn't tell his crew about Scylla and he lost six of his men https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317922 "No mention of Scylla---how to fight that nightmare?---for fear≥ the men would panic, desert their oars and huddle down and stow themselves away" (278).]]> 2020-10-21 16:05:35 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317922 He went past Scylla even though he knew it was dangerous. trudele3 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317988 6 of his men gotten eaten because of it]]> 2020-10-21 16:05:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849317988 Before Circe convinced him not to fight the immortal monster, he felt obliged to fight the monster and didn’t care for the safety of his crew. He was going to let his crew die while trying to fight Skylla smithai2 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849318374 2020-10-21 16:05:41 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849318374 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849318801 Too much pride, thinks he can kill.]]> 2020-10-21 16:05:46 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849318801 He believed in Eurylochus. trudele3 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849322062 He had trust in E. from the past and E still turned against him]]> 2020-10-21 16:06:28 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849322062 He refused to tell his crew about Skylla and he ended up losing 6 of his men. wardm9 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849322152 2020-10-21 16:06:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849322152 Doesn't tell his crew. https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849324126 2020-10-21 16:06:53 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849324126 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849324706 Doesn’t really understand his men. They are worse off than him and without information.]]> 2020-10-21 16:07:00 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849324706 If something happened like the boat crashes and starts to sink he wouldn’t be able to lead them. He was greedy and wanted to hear the Sirens which left him temporarily immobile and he couldn’t lead his crew if they needed him smithai2 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849325922 2020-10-21 16:07:16 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849325922 Doesn't plug his own ears because he wants to hear https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849326351 2020-10-21 16:07:21 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849326351 He wanted to be the only one to hear so he didn't plug his ears but made everyone else plug theirs. An act of selfishness wardm9 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849329843 2020-10-21 16:08:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849329843 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849332230 Only one who donned armour, everyone else rows. 278]]> 2020-10-21 16:08:37 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849332230 His men clearly dont respect him as a leader and dont listen to him as a leader. This reflects poorly on Odysseus’s leadership skills. smithai2 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849333000 2020-10-21 16:08:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849333000 278 - O. doesn't want his crew to get scared so he doesn't tell them about Scylla https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849333286 2020-10-21 16:08:51 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849333286 O. told crew Circe told him he “was alone to hear” the sirens A_Chandavarkar https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849336899 Not really true. Circe said that he probably shouldn’t try and hear the sirens, but he manipulated his words to make it seem like Circe had told him that he, and only he, should hear the sirens. ]]> 2020-10-21 16:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849336899 278 - Didn't tell his men about Scylla so 6 of them got eaten. https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849340110 2020-10-21 16:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849340110 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849342931 Doesnt ever consider if his crew wants to listen. ]]> 2020-10-21 16:10:52 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849342931 Page 277 trudele3 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849344183 The first and second paragraph talk about Odysseus encounter with the Sirens.]]> 2020-10-21 16:11:07 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849344183 Pg 282 - “So he urged, and shipmates cheered again. At once they drove off the Sungod’s finest cattle—“ smithai2 https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849344699
This is Eurylochus, one of Odysseus’s men taking leadership over everything and commanding them to eat the cattle. Seems like he has more control over the crew than Odysseus.]]> 2020-10-21 16:11:14 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849344699 Only wants what is best for himself https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849349256 2020-10-21 16:12:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sohara5/nwyqtdmffho8jdx/wish/849349256