PAGES 107-115 CHECKPOINT by Caitlin Kincaid https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1 Post your favorite Says/Means/Matters from pages 107-115 here! en-us 2017-02-21 12:30:11 UTC 2017-03-01 14:41:21 UTC hello@padlet.com Amy Pham https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155259952 Says:
Evidence: “Beatty, he thought, you’re not a problem now. You always said, don’t face a problem, burn it. Well, now I’ve done both. Goodbye, Captain” (Bradbury 115).  
Means:
| Montag is reminiscing about what he had just done. He followed Beatty’s advice to burn his problems and not to face them.
Matters:
| Again, the irony that Beatty’s advice is what got him killed is revisited. Montag did not face his problem, Beatty, and instead burned him, just as Beatty kept telling him to do. Montag also ends the phrase with, “Goodbye Captain,” signifying that he still respected Beatty, as he called him by his title.]]> 2017-02-21 18:45:47 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155259952 Courtney Fedy https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155260338 Evidence

“Montag, can’t you run, get away!”
 | Means
| Faber is currently at home, he’s not witnessing what is happening he’s only reacting by what he’s hearing.  He doesn’t seem to understand how guarded Montag really is.


 | Matters
| This matters because it shows how Faber isn’t really that much of a good friend in my opinion because he and Montag plotted a plan together and yet Montag is paying the consequence while Faber is just sitting at home listening. 
 

]]> 2017-02-21 18:46:53 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155260338 Dominick Paolerc0 https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155261100  | Evidence: “The other was like a chunk of burnt pine log he was carrying along as a penance for some obscure sin.      
Means
    | Montag’s leg is dead weight. |
Matters
His leg is compared to the burnt wood of his house and it is now just as useless]]> 2017-02-21 18:48:58 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155261100 Kieran O'Connor https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155261362  | Evidence: “He stepped into the bedroom and fired twice and the twin beds went up in  a great simmering whisper, with more heat and passion and light than he would have supposed them to contain” (Bradbury 110)          | Means: The fire produced by the beds do not accurately represent how they were used in Montag’s marriage. |  Matters :Montag’s marriage was very unhappy has he and his wife did not much appreciate each other and were not extremely passionate.   ]]> 2017-02-21 18:49:34 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155261362 Brianna Farrar https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262335 Says:
 | Evidence: “And as it were before, it was good to burn, he felt himself gush out in the fire, snatch, rend, rip in half with flame, and put away the senseless problem.” (Bradbury 110)      
Means:  | Montag talks about how good it feels to be burning something again.
Matters: | Montag feels that he has finally begun to burn the right things. He says that it feels good to burn because he is releasing himself form the chains of society.]]> 2017-02-21 18:52:09 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262335 Jesse Griffith https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262512  | Evidence: “For everyone nowadays knows, absolutely is certain, that nothing will ever happen to me. Others die, I go on. There are no consequences and no responsibilities…” (Bradbury 108-109)         |Mean: Beatty is untouchable. |Matter: It shows why Beatty has yet to have his house burned down, been arrested or simply been questioned for knowing all these quotes from certain novels. ]]> 2017-02-21 18:52:39 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262512 Akeem L keemkeem321 https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262881  | Evidence:  “Go ahead now, you second-hand litterateur, pull the trigger.’ He too one step towards Montag. Montag only said, “We never burned right…” (Bradbury 113)         |
Means:
 Montag replies to Beatty’s leer of him only using other knowledge with an original quote. |
Matters:
 When Montag says ‘we never burned right’ he means that they never burned the right things. They should have been burning the people like Beatty, not Faber and Montag. They should have been burning the government.]]> 2017-02-21 18:53:47 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155262881 Mazin https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263068 Evidence: "He twitched the safety catch on the flamethroer"
Means: He threatened to kill Beatty.
Matters: Montag is willing to murder someone to accomplish his goal.]]> 2017-02-21 18:54:23 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263068 Teresa Sroczynski https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263088 Says: “He stepped into the bedroom and fired twice and the twin beds went up in a great simmering whisper, with more heat and passion than he would have supposed them to contain.” (Bradbury 110)
 Means: Montag burned his bedroom down with two shots of the flame-thrower. 
Matters: Montag’s thoughts that the bedroom had more passion then he would have expected shows the lack of passion in his home life. It also shows that he feels that the society, thus their things, have no feelings. ]]> 2017-02-21 18:54:26 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263088 Abdul Butt https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263606 Evidence: “She saw everything. She did not do anything to anyone. She just left them alone.”

Means: | Montag is talking about how Clarisse minded her own business, that she never hurt anyone with her knowledge.

Matter:This contradicts what this society is saying. People with the ability  to read are detrimental to the society but here we have Clarisse who didn’t do anything to anyone yet she was wiped away.

]]> 2017-02-21 18:55:59 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263606 Makayla Reed https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263743  | Evidence:  “And as before, it was good to burn, he felt himself gush out in the fire, snatch, rend, rip in half with flame, and put away the senseless problem, either.” (Bradbury 110)       
  Montag was happy and relieved as he burned downed his home.
 
 This symbolizes that he was unhappy in his past life and happy for a change. He was glad that this part of his life is over and can never come back again. ]]> 2017-02-21 18:56:25 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263743 Nathaniel Holquist noaholquist https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263795  | Evidence: “’It’s perpetual motion; the thing man wanted to invent but never did... Its real beauty is that it destroys responsibility and consequences. A problem too burdensome, then into the furnace with it.” (Bradbury 109)         | Fire can burn, scorch, and tarnish anything. | Beatty is giving fire a huge symbolic meaning. He worships the fire and uses it like a drug; it can erase his problems and make him feel better until more problems arise. Calling it a beauty shows his admiration but also his sense of control as he uses it so he can feel untouchable, las he can do anything he wants.]]> 2017-02-21 18:56:33 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155263795 Roxie Landbeck https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155264880  | Evidence: “‘Yes, the Hound’s somewhere about the neighborhood, so don’t try anything. Ready?’ ‘Ready.’ Montag snapped the safety catch on the flame thrower. ‘Fire!’” (Bradbury 110) |  Beatty commands Montag to set fire to his own home. |  More amusing than critically interesting: Beatty, by giving Montag the instruction to “fire”, Beatty gave him the means to kill him to Montag. They say don’t play with fire, but I think it is better to not hand a whole lot of fire to someone who is on a very short fuse (aka Montag) who is liable to blow up. ]]> 2017-02-21 18:59:21 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155264880 Raguiatou Diallo https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155265306  | Evidence:   “A shotgun blast went off every time he put it down and he thought, you’re a fool, a damn fool, an idiot, an awful idiot, a damn idiot, and a fool; look at the mess and where’s the mop, look at the mess, and what do you do?” (Bradbury 115)        |    The fact Montag is thinking about the choices that he makes and how what he has done makes him feel like an idiot. |    It makes him question the choices that he has made.]]> 2017-02-21 19:00:29 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155265306 Javon Edmonds https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155773887  | Says | Means | Matters
| Evidence: “The front door opened; Mildred came down the steps, running, one suitcase held with a dreamlike clenching rigidity in her fist, as a beetle-taxi hissed to the curb” (Bradbury 108).| Mildred was prepared to leave when Beatty came. |Montag finds out that his own wife gave him up to the authorities.]]> 2017-02-23 15:14:25 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155773887 Maggie Huybert https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155774442 Evidence: “Beatty, he thought, you’re not a problem now. You always said, don’t face a problem, burn it. Well, now I’ve done both. Goodbye, Captain.”
 | I think the obvious meaning is that Montagu killed (burned) Beatty and now Beatty cannot hold him back as well as the fact that as firemen they burn books which are the “problem” of this society. But the deeper meaning to the specific quote “don’t face a problem, burn it” is that it is easier to completely ignore of destroy a problem than facing it and handling it.
The importance of this quote is that Montag burned Beatty, this is an introduction to a new beginning in the story, whereas Montagu has no job, house, or wife. ]]> 2017-02-23 15:15:42 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155774442 Blair Cantler https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155777644
Evidence:“A problem gets too burdensome, then into the furnace with it.” (Bradbury 109)        Means: Beatty is saying that when something gets too difficult, it should be done away with.  Matters: This quote really represents the society they live in. The people in this society are very happy. They are determined to have everything in their life be happy and nothing be upsetting. This is shown when Mildred’s friend cries after Montag reads to her. ]]> 2017-02-23 15:23:56 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155777644 Sophia Dow https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155780987 Evidence:
“Montag only said, “We never burned right…’” (Bradbury 113)
Means:
Montag said books were the wrong thing to burn. 
Matters:
Montag realized that books were not the problem is society, it was the people that want to block those from having them. They teach that feeling the basics of life is unnecessary and bad. ]]> 2017-02-23 15:33:00 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155780987 Roxie Landbeck https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155818803  | Evidence: “Keep going.” (Bradbury 120) |  Montag had to keep going. |  This phrase wasn’t said by anyone; it could have been a mantra that Montag was repeating in his head, an insert into his mind from Bradbury, or even to help represent a reader’s hopes for Montag. In any case, it is a phrase meant to help press Montag forward.]]> 2017-02-23 17:02:09 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155818803 Lola Charles https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155823679  | Evidence: “And as before, it was good to burn, he felt himself gush out in the fire, snatch, rend, rip in half with flame, and put away the senseless problem” (Bradbury 110)      

 | Montag has a sense of relief and pleasure from burning his house. He is using it to put away his problems.

The fire represents a new start/ clean slate where Montag does not have to think about the consequences of his actions leading to that point. It rids him of all regrets and doubt, to relieve him of his troubles.




]]> 2017-02-23 17:14:24 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/155823679 Yeab T https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156383358 Evidence: “Its real beauty is that it destroys responsibility and consequences. A problem gets too burdensome, then into the furnace with it.” (Bradbury 109).
Means:Beatty believes that fire solves all problems with responsibility and consequence.Matters: He is representing how most firefighters feel about burning books. He also is indicating that books are the ones that come with consequences and responsibilities since they are the ones burned in the story.]]> 2017-02-27 13:11:55 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156383358 Aliya Hilmi https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156387450 2017-02-27 13:26:22 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156387450 Kayla Dills https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156392131 Evidence:
“’What is there about fire that’s so lovely...its real beauty is that it destroys responsibility and consequences. A problem gets too burdensome, then into the furnace with it. Now, Montag, you’re a burden. And fire will lift you off my shoulders, clean, quick, sure; nothing to rot later. Antibiotic, aesthetic, practical.’”
(Bradbury, 109)
Means:
Beatty wants Montag gone and he wants Montag to just give up. Now that Beatty knows that his suspicions were correct about Montag’s reading, he just explodes with a rant to say; I want you gone…bye.
Matters:
Beatty was never really Montag’s friend and will make sure that Montag is dead to kind of have some kind of revenge so suspicion is off Beatty.

]]> 2017-02-27 13:40:55 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156392131 Claire Bruce https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156510203 Evidence:“Yes, he thought, where am I running?” (Bradbury 118)     
   | Montag does not know where he is running to
  | Montag is just trying to get away from the problems that he has caused. ]]> 2017-02-27 18:19:16 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156510203 Mathew Varghese https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156882357 Says: “‘‘There is no terror, Cassius, in your threats […] which I respect not,” (page 113). Means: Beatty says how since Montag now has a read the books, he does not fear Beatty. Matters: This quote is an allusion to William Shakespeare’s “Julius Caesar.” Beatty mocks Montag by quoting this book, by saying now that Montag is “arm’d” with the knowledge he has gained from books, he no longer sees Beatty as a threat. 

 

]]> 2017-02-28 22:10:57 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/156882357 Mac Sansbury https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/157018533  | Evidence:  “’What is there about fire that’s so lovely? No matter what age we are, what draws us to it?’” (Bradbury, 109)    |   Beatty lectures Montag about his decisions and asks open-ended questions about their society and related questions. |   The quote shows that Beatty finds joy in the situation, mocking Montag by asking such questions.]]> 2017-03-01 14:18:17 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/157018533 TJ White https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/157027637 Evidence:
“Montag shot one continuous pulse of liquid fire on him”(Bradbury 113)

Means:
Montag had use the flamethrower that was in his hands on Beatty and burned the captain. 

Matters:
Even though Montag had killed Beatty this one of the few actions Montag had done that were not influenced by another person like Faber or Captain Beatty. Bradbury could be showing how Montag had developed as a character in the society of Fahrenheit 451. ]]> 2017-03-01 14:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/caikincaid/f451checkpoint1/wish/157027637