(Period 5 & 6) Book 22-23 Twitter Wall by Justin Zarian https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a Treat this like a Twitter feed. After reading Book 22: 1. Write a roughly 240 character post on the slaughter of the suitors 2. Find a post with no comments and write a comment arguing the exact opposite of the original post. 3. Find another post with one reply and argue the opposite of that comment (not the original post) 4. If we have time, do the same for a post with two comments and argue the opposite of the last comment.. en-us 2022-02-28 21:08:00 UTC 2022-03-02 15:02:16 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f426.png (Period 0) justinzarian1 https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2070547766 What a "hero." Odysseus came back after 20 years and killed 100 unarmed men after locking up all their weapons. And he hung the servants who had affairs with them! Might as well line them up against a wall. #Overkill #Murderer #JusticeForSuitors]]> 2022-03-01 01:12:34 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2070547766 The Odyssey 25avery_swartley https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025473 Can we just talk about how strong Odysseus is?? He really carried Books 22 & 23. I think that the suitors deserved everything they had coming. Penelope is a queen and didn't deserve any of those stupid suitors IMO. I'm glad her and Odysseus can finally be happy together again #reallove #girlbosspenelope #stupidsuitors]]> 2022-03-01 18:11:02 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025473 (Period 5) 25emmareese https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025595 Odysseus could have been more merciful. I think that the suitors who did all the bad stuff deserved to die, but the nonviolent ones who were only there to possibly get the money should not be killed #highschooldrama#catscanbemeansometimes#ewmen#mansplaining ]]> 2022-03-01 18:11:06 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025595 (Period 5) 25ramseyristing https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025765 (Period 5) I think that the suitors deserved that because of all the stuff they have done while Odysseus was gone that whole time. Odysseus proves that he can string the bow and shoot through 12 axes very easily with no caution ]]> 2022-03-01 18:11:11 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072025765 (period 5) 25olivyablandford https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072026350 In my opinion, Odysseus was too stubborn to see it as anything else other than disrespect. He did the same thing as the suitors and had the audacity to kill them for it, but was upset when the cyclops did the same thing to him
#hypocrite]]> 2022-03-01 18:11:28 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072026350 Period 5 25anjelalvarez https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072027595 I think the suitor got what they deserved but they spared the people the were good which was pretty nice and I think it was not overkill it was just right #redblood #theydead]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:00 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072027595 (Period 5) 25laurynreed https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072027946 I think they deserved it because, Odysseus was cheated out of his home by men that thought they could do whatever they wanted to do. The suitors thought that it was alright to eat all the food, sleep there, and flirt with Odysseus' wife like it was no big deal. And after 10 years of her stalling you would think they would get the point that Penelope didn't want to be with them. ]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:11 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072027946 The odyssey https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028170 Larkin (Period 5) Personally, if ii was Odysseus, I would have been just as angry. It really shows that these suitors did not have any faith or trust in Odysseus, they went behind his back and tried to take his wife. After all of that, I am glad that Odysseus was able to return to his wife. #FamilyGoals]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:19 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028170 (Period 5) https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028190 Jeez... so much death. It's kinda funny and a little ironic that he killed a bunch of trashy men, then just went and slept with his wife as if he didn't just have blood on his hands. However, I do think that his actions were justified. I wouldn't want a bunch of men hitting on my wife while I was gone for 10+ years. #tagsaresillyandweshouldntusethem #materialgorl #satire]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:19 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028190 (Period 5) 25tyler_dillon https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028576 Well, I certainly wouldn't want to be on Odysseus' bad side. I mean you can't really blame him for that. With being gone along time and coming home to his family and legacy being disrespected and taken advantage of, theres gotta be some way to reileive it. While it was a bit extreme what would you do? You leave home and try to get back for 20 years just to come home to more chaos.]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:32 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028576 Period 5 25harrygutierrezbenavides https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028633 Odysseus did what he thougth was right at the moment. Even though it ended up in a really bad way Odysseus got what he wanted and ended getting everything he worked for back. With all the things he did to get to his home he deserved what he got from all this it might've been good or bad but he likes cuz he's back home]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:34 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028633 (Period 5) 25aidenbrown https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028817 Odysseus is no hero. After taking all of the best fighters in the country, returning with none of them, he then killed a majority of the next generation, all because they were trying to marry his wife (The one he cheated on) 20 years after his supposed death. #angerissues #doublestandards #RIPSuitors]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:40 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072028817 Period 5 https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029089 (Safiya) I can't even beleive Odysseus had the nerve to come back and return to his family after so many years of cheating on his wife and putting himself into things he could've reacted to better.I feel like Penelope is in the wrong to for exepting him and I feel like she did it for her son who is not to mention grown now, but doesn't she want her son to think smart and be a good role model for his future childres.]]> 2022-03-01 18:12:48 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029089 (Erin Period 5) 25erinfrans https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029654 Those suitors got what they deserve, disrespecting their for ruler like that?? Shameful. If I were Odysseus I'd be just as mad. ]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:05 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029654 (Period 5) 25nicholasfain https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029719 I think that the suitors deserved that because Odysseus was gone for 20 years so the suitors deserved it. when Odysseus shot his bow through the axes it was really cool. #ballsy #no fear]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:07 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029719 Period 5 25jaxonhummel https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029779 After winning the contest against the other suitors, Odysseus shoots a random suitor in the neck out of frustration. He then reveals who he really is and what he is there to do. If I was in Odysseus' position, I would also have some sort of outbreak or reaction to the suitors and their acts of disrespect. I think what occurred at the beginning of Book 22 was deserved.]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:09 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029779 Period 5 25remiberger https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029807 They had whats coming, i mean planning to kill odysseus ́s son?? eating god awful amounts and just terrorizing the help?? Well deserved i mean imagine coming home and there's just a bunch of random men in your house?? id be pretty upset too #welldeserved #odysseusisinnocent #menareoverrated]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:09 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072029807 (Period 5) 25oliviastone https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072031370 Odysseus and Penelope´s reunion was kind of forced in a way. She went through all this trauma through the years and years of being harassed and alone, and then all of a sudden Odysseus appears and she forgives him? No questions to why he left or what hes been doing all this time? Like, girl, know what hes been doing before you sleep with him. Smh.
#Cheater]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:24 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072031370 Period 5 25silasrivera https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072031650 The suitors have been treating Odysseus bad behind his back. Especially his family, In my opinion they got what was coming to them. They did spare two that were innocent. The rest were involved with the conflict.]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:35 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072031650 (Period 5) 25chelseawardlane https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072032046 The suitors maybe didn't deserve to all be killed in cold blood but Odysseus had the right to be angry at the suitors for disrespecting him, trying to kill his son, trying to take his wife ect. #notgirlbossing #PurrOdysseus #anotherdayanotherslay]]> 2022-03-01 18:13:46 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072032046 (period 5) 25devaniewest https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072037036 those men definitely deserved it because they decided to trash his home and ruin everything and were planing to kill his son that is way beyond messed up and they deserved it, it was really karma they shouldn't have done the to Odysseus home and family.]]> 2022-03-01 18:15:33 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072037036 (Period 5) 25daniellejackson https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072040135 The suitors talked behind Odysseus's back. Isn't that crazy? I heard a rummer that he killed all the suitors that messed with him. I guess someone has anger issues. I feel its a bit much, don't you think? I mean killing someone just because they didn't like you? Its out of pocket. there is another rummer he slept with other women. I wonder who is going to tell her and I wonder how shes going to feel about it. #fake #player #hashtag]]> 2022-03-01 18:17:06 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072040135 (Period 6) 25braydenbrain https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072103111 I believe that Odysseus did have a right to show up and show that he still holds on to power, and the suitors need to back away. I feel killing them is the first thing to do. If while he's there they threaten him, or give him a huge reason to, I think then it's okay. They deserved some type of punishment in the end of it all. Of course, they were flirting and trying to steal a god's wife while he is out trying to get home. Regardless of him sleeping and cheating on Penelope it's not like they knew or she knew so it was fair. It was all out of them being selfish and wanting to take her from him.
#odysseusgetsfemales #suitorsdeservepunishment]]> 2022-03-01 18:48:54 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072103111 Period 6 25aleksandarleka https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072110891 The suitors got what was deserved because they were living in his house trying to take his wife and eating all his food and killing all his animals but it was kind of brutal and Odysseus has been cheating on his wife and has been gone for 20 years. ]]> 2022-03-01 18:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072110891 Period 6 https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072110912 Odysseus really overdid it. Sure it's this 'big story' and he's such an "epic hero" but let's be honest, he was just showing off. Did all those men deserve to be punished? Yes! Is death ever the answer? No! Also lets talk about his wife. I think it is absolutely wrong to treat her like that and tell her that 'she is acting strange and should be more welcoming' when he hasn't even explained to her that he cheated. Mad disrespectful. She has every right to be mad at him. Odysseus has a big ego and he always has to prove his dominance. #controlissues #odysseusisaterriblehero]]> 2022-03-01 18:53:12 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072110912 (Period 6) https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072112400 i feel like in someway the deaths were deserved since the suitors did try to take his wife and everything but that just came out of no where and i don't think he had to kill every single suitor there.]]> 2022-03-01 18:53:58 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072112400 25jasminewigfall https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072113424 He killed a bunch of men after beating them in a contest. Even though he won he still killed them unnecessarily. Then after cheating on his wife and being gone for 20 years, he got mad she was hostile.
#JusticeForPenolope
#JusticeForSuitorsAndMaids
#GirlPower ]]> 2022-03-01 18:54:32 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072113424 (Period 6) 25haydenoliver https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072113793 The suitors got what they deserved.. Imagine being in a random womans house that is greiving her husband since hes been gone for decades and may never come back AND plan to kill him if he comes back?? #weird]]> 2022-03-01 18:54:45 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072113793 (Period 6) 25damianfinn https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114036 I personally think Odysseus kills someone without warning at that could be a sign of corruption, he murdered multiple people and had no real reason to do it. I get that he was angry but that does not justify the fact that he murdered multiple men in cold blood. #murderer #corruption #lossofsanity #ego]]> 2022-03-01 18:54:53 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114036 (Period 6) 25owenjones https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114116 These men decide to storm Mrs. queeny Penelope's home, take her food, money, and terrorize her maids.
and don't expect to get absolutly demolished by Mr. Kingy Ody

🙄

#thesemenarentsmart #speakingfromtheheartbfletcher

]]> 2022-03-01 18:54:55 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114116 (Period 6) https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114989 Omg i just saw Odysseus after him being at sea for 20 years!! He came to his wifes contest that was going to help her find a "New husband". Odyssues won the contest and killed more of 100 men. He locked up all thier weapons so he could kill them without a sweat. #odyssuesisahero #killedmanymen #contest]]> 2022-03-01 18:55:23 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072114989 (period 6) 25khanthavongsuriyavong https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072115277 I think that it was okay that Odysseus killed all those men since they are the ones who tried winning over his wife and came into his house uninvited. So I believe that the suitors got what they deserved
#get humbled]]> 2022-03-01 18:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072115277 I think they deserved it because, Odysseus was cheated out of his home by men that thought they could do whatever they wanted to do. The suitors thought that it was alright to eat all the food, sleep there, and flirt with Odysseus' wife like it was no big deal. And after 10 years of her stalling you would think they would get the point that Penelope didn't want to be with them.#getbetter #duosquads #ggs https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072116321 Hayden P6]]> 2022-03-01 18:56:03 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072116321 (period 6) https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072116572 this bow shot was amazing and the outstanding odyssey is truly a master of the bow I don't believe all the suiters had to die but they did have what was coming to them.]]> 2022-03-01 18:56:12 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072116572 (period 6) 25nataliewhetstone https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117297 Honestly, I don't think the suitors deserved what Odysseus did to them. Yes, the suitors were in the wrong for A LOT of reasons, but killing all of them is a little excessive. I understand his wife was traumatized and didn't have a choice against the suitors so Odysseus would want justice for her because he loves her but murdering all of them was too much in my opinion. Being the king he most likely had a multitude of options to pick from to decide what to do with the suitors, he could've even asked his wife what she thought should happen to the suitors. But instead he massacred and slaughtered them like animals.]]> 2022-03-01 18:56:34 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117297 Period 6 Chloe06Hummel https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117569 Odysseus needs to be prescribed for anxiety medication. What he did was out of pocket and he killed many people for just wanting to be a king. I don't think it was that big of a deal.. Although they did trash his home and wanting to get swifty with his wife, I still think it's not right to kill that many people. Maybe just a few.]]> 2022-03-01 18:56:41 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117569 Period 6 25aureliuswhite https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117950 Im gonna start off by saying that Odysseyus was not a hero, but he was probably the biggest gangster. He got all of the best fighters in the country and only came back by himself. The he proceeded to absuloutley clap basically a whole army basically by himself because they tried to get with his wife. (which he cheated on so thats not cool but still) #god]]> 2022-03-01 18:56:54 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072117950 (Period 6) 25charlotte_olson https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118332 You know, I think this was pretty fair to the suitors. They literally came Penelope's house and took over. They ate all of her food and messed up her house. They wouldn't leave her alone. I mean we don't really know what Penelope was doing while Odysseus was gone, but Odysseus was out cheating on Penelope. Their reunion just didn't seem real, or fair to Penelope. So basically everyone in this time period just kind of sucked and maybe it would have been better if Odysseus had died. ]]> 2022-03-01 18:57:07 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118332 Period 6 25ameliaweaver https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118608 I think that it was a little dramatic to kill them all, like maybe he could have talked it out and gave them a punishment or something instead of just killing them all, like just make them all little servants and use them to his advantage so he would get something out of it. He low key kinda wack #dumb ]]> 2022-03-01 18:57:15 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118608 Hollie (period 6) https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118609 So odysseus came home and lied to his wife ab who he was. the he proceeded to kill every dude that wanted his wife then any person that wanted the dude that wanted his wife. his wife just went and believed it was him then went to bed with him without any explanation. he keeps the cheating a secret and doesnt tell her anything #fake]]> 2022-03-01 18:57:15 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072118609 (Period 6) 25loganreed https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072120701 I felt that the suitors had what was coming to them. They say that a great man that they looked up to had died and or diapered and when he left they went after his riches and his position. Showing that they probably had no respect for him or for the actual position that he held. Although he slaughtered them cruelly they should have understood the responsibilities of trying to take the position of King. ]]> 2022-03-01 18:58:19 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072120701 https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072122003 this is Odysseus and his son fighting]]> 2022-03-01 18:59:05 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072122003 Period 6 25justisfiller https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072123170 How did it go from a proof of skill to a full on Battle and why?]]> 2022-03-01 18:59:42 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072123170 Period 6 25abigailkiiza https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072123232 Odysseus kind of overdid it will all the killing.I mean I know he is mad that after 20 years of being gone he comes back to find people forcefully entering his home, but he could have been a bit merciful.The suitors have family too.Also the suitors parents could have stopped their sons from entering a kings home.Like are you dumb....you know Odysseus is like a war god yet you still let your son enter his house.
#youdumb#Getsomehelp.]]> 2022-03-01 18:59:44 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072123232 Period 6 25gyansrikoirala https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072883537 Was Odysseus a bit dramatic? Yes
But did the suitors deserve it? Also Yes

Our poor queen Penelope had to suffer for years because of those douchebags. Odysseus killing ALL 108 men may have been too far, but there wouldn't have been another way for Penelope to get justice. Let's be honest, no man in the room would have the guts to negotiate on how to serve the punishment for ruining Penelope's life. Peace was never an option. Now the question is, how will Odysseus serve his punishment for sleeping with other women while Penelope was mourning? The suitors aren't the only ones guilty of something. Someone owns our queen a big apology.

#WhenKarmaBitesYouBack
# ToxicRelationship
#ForgiveButNeverForget]]> 2022-03-02 05:02:33 UTC https://padlet.com/justinzarian1/nnazngbxouna4a2a/wish/2072883537