A useful fact from the podcast - B by Prof. S https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r Include one fact from the Stephanie Coontz and Adam podcast, and what this knowledge means for sociologists. en-us 2017-07-15 06:16:49 UTC 2017-07-22 18:55:04 UTC hello@padlet.com Prof. S epicpants https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178747460 In the beginning of the podcast, Stephanie and Adam talk about how romantic love, especially in some Chinese culture, was frowned upon. This could tells us 1) that romantic love isn't universally viewed as a positive thing 2) globally and historically, marriages are not based off love and 3) some may have saw romantic love as potentially disastrous because it distracted youth from devotion to family and work (the economy). ]]> 2017-07-15 06:16:49 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178747460 Podcast B marcelinmichelle31 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178788654 According to Adam and Stephanie, Marriage was a political and economic decision. Love wasn't included in the picture because marriage was a business arrangement. Marriage was a way to gain social status in the old days. Although Marriage was a business arrangement in the beginning. Marriage started to change because women started to work and are able to make decision in their lives. In the 21st century, 94% marriage is about love.
Michelle Marcelin]]> 2017-07-16 13:12:38 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178788654 Podcast B malaakslmh30 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178790210 -“Love was a business arrangement.” 
 -“Men were in charge of women.”
-“Early human society was based upon family ties; marriage was important,  that love was not part of it.”
This knowledge expresses how marriage in our society was based more on social class/ social status and power, and not focused on love.
- Malaak Salaimeh
 
]]> 2017-07-16 14:06:46 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178790210 Podcast B - Carissa Partin partin_carissa https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178870897 The podcast talks about how the idea of "love" is a recent idea and was not the basis for marriage until recently. In fact, in the Chinese culture love had a negative connotation to it. Marriage was meant to be a strategic and business deal to expand their families with the best bloodline and inheritance . This wasn't until the Western society shifted these ideals in the early 19th century. One reason why this started was the development of wage labor that opened up the ability for people to work for money rather than inheriting it through families. This knowledge is important for sociologists because it helps them understand our past and focus on current marriage trends and see where they are going for our future. ]]> 2017-07-17 15:15:13 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178870897 Podcast B- Lachmanaya sunny_samanta https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178884575 The podcast talks about how love and marriage. It is interesting how we got to the idea of where we are at today when it comes to love and marriage. There were stages the first one is the development of wage labor. This meant that women and men can be able to work. They can defy their parents. The next is the new idea of the enlightenment. The older generation and state should not dictate the people. Lastly, the French and American Revolution. The idea of pursuit of happiness which meant that young people had the new idea of sex, marriage, and love. Each new stage opened a crack for love and marriage. This new knowledge meant for sociologist that there is going to be different types of norms. ]]> 2017-07-17 18:15:00 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178884575 Podcast B- Camila camuchi0808 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178910355 In the podcast it talks about marriage. Stephanie states that men were in charge of women, with the falling out of love and would want to leave the marriage. Loving your spouse too much with religious standards it would be considered adultery. Then came the idea of enlightenment and thats where really marriage came from. I feel like this knowledge for sociologists helps them understand the real meaning of love and marriage, with all this it also meant how they can figure out how society is made with social class. ]]> 2017-07-18 01:50:03 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178910355 Podcast B - Christ Christiinaaa https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178962735 Marriage is more than a piece of paper. Historically marriage has not always been about love but for them it is. Polyamory is not a new trend it has been around for a while. For psychologist this means a new take on relationships.

]]> 2017-07-18 14:32:24 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178962735 Podcast B jjschaitz04 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178980636 Adam states love is almost the highest social value, us Americans worship it. Stephanie says how you just couldn't marry for love back in the day, and how parents would fear that they love from the wrong social class. She talks about the "love match" where both partners could contribute in the same way and were actually in love, socially stable. This knowledge shows that you can't make someone love you, and that society differs with how people love each other. ]]> 2017-07-18 18:46:06 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178980636 Self-identity in Love https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178991846 What stood out the most to me was the idea that to have romantic love, you and your partner should have your own identities and have value outside of each other to keep that love strong. In a sociological light, this fact could prove useful when studying the levels of relationship satisfaction in cultures or subcultures that value strong peer relationships and friendships. 
Carrie Anne Jeffries]]> 2017-07-18 23:22:14 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/178991846 Marriage Wasn't Always For Love flsurfergirl94 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179074339 What I found very interesting from the Podcast with Stephanie & Adam was the fact that people "back in the day" didn't really marry for love. The married more for a financial reasoning. Stephanie mentions how if you loved your spouse "too much" that it was actually considered adultery. Very interesting!

Alana Phillips]]> 2017-07-19 23:39:47 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179074339 The only pure love was adulteress love dimitrijp10 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179082818 I found this fact interesting because I always thought that back then they had way more love than we do today. When i look at my grandparents it seemed that they got together because they genuinely loved each other, not necessarily for financial reasons. What this knowledge means to sociologist is there's a whole different scope and a number of factors they can look at ]]> 2017-07-20 01:17:19 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179082818 Podcast- Zuleika zechevarria0 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179101443 People have this love culture that by a certain age, they want an ideal relationship like being married and having children instead of focusing on the value of the relationship they already have. In the relationship people forget the meaning of their relationships and how they need to continue to find meanings that are special to them. You have to constantly add to the pot because if not, it will get old real quick. what this means for sociologists is that they can see how society has shaped this expectation for people to have an "ideal life" and how they tend to forget the true meanings of love. A prime example is media. Movies depict what love "looks like" and when it doesn't happen like in the movies, it creates not only discouragement but unrealistic expectations because everyone is an individual. A commonality between partners is to find shared values and see each other's individuality. it creates a nice difference and helps create a balance. Dr. Coontz does say to try to find a partner where you have some shared values. ]]> 2017-07-20 05:06:54 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179101443 Business Arrangement tpherai https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179122063 Marriage was seen as a business arrangement & it was not uncommon for people to not be in love & to even cheat on their partner with someone that they did love. People married out of convenience & to benefit their in laws, not for love, although sometimes that did follow later. I think this helps sociologists to find more reasons behind why the divorce rate went up & why our generation now feels the way we do about love & marriage. ]]> 2017-07-20 12:46:34 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179122063 Marriage as a Business Arrangement- Tanisha Brown tcelestebrown https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179137446 In these tough times I can see why some people would get married for the benefits. Those benefits could be financial, health insurance, etc. There are couples who may not love each other but share the same opinions when it comes to the "business" of marriage. I know women who won't even consider marrying a man who isn't financially beneficial to them. There are married couples who have built businesses, acquired numerous real estate holdings, etc. All the while they have not been in love with each other. They are treating their marriages strictly as a business.]]> 2017-07-20 17:14:30 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179137446 Basis of Commonality tgags209 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179140719 Mrs. Coontz goes on to explain that it's important to have a basis of commonality between you and your partner. Her example was when she sits down to watch TV with her husband, they tend to laugh at the same things (showing they have the same sense of humor). I think it's very important to have core values in common with your partner. My boyfriend and I struggle with this because I believe in God and he does not. Down the road, that typically will not bode well when children become involved. Sociologists could dig deeper into core values by simply questioning what it is about the values that even if you don't agree, you cannot find common ground to agree upon.]]> 2017-07-20 18:30:57 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179140719 The truth about marriage-Rachael Wiggins https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179143597 In only in the last 100 years has marriage been truly about love. I found this fact very interesting because I always thought that two people would agree to marriage just on the basis of love. But in reality, marriage has been a financial and social outlet for people to gain personal interest. I find this hard to fathom because I could never see myself marrying someone for selfish reasons. ]]> 2017-07-20 19:46:28 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179143597 Why were people in the past mad if you slept around if they didn't love each other. -David Mohammed https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179150890 In the past, marriage was not something for love, but rather for political and economic advantage. This means that love would often times have nothing to do with the relationship. So if marriage doesn't require you to even care for the person why would it be bad if a women would get impregnated by another man? The answer is the child that the woman has might grow up and lay claim to the land or valuables of the family or if the man had an illegitimate child the same could occur. ]]> 2017-07-20 23:44:28 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179150890 Marriage isn't what it really is (Justin jwayman787 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179151392 When I think about marriage I think of two people who have fallen involve with each other for who they are. However not everyone see's marriage as that. Some people marry so that they are able to gain a stronger financial foundation. This is a selfish reason for anyone wanting to marry someone just to gain a better stance on wealth. With this being said when someone thinks about marriage it is usually two people who have fallen involve with each other for the right reasons not the reasons to gain better wealth. ]]> 2017-07-20 23:54:14 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179151392 Podcast- Stephanie Fraley stephfraley2 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179155898 I found it very interesting that most marriages back then were for financial reasons most of the time. I always thought love back then was much more genuine then it is now. I was surprised to find out that it is actually the opposite ]]> 2017-07-21 00:58:09 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179155898 Podcast-Alize Cortes acortes23 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179160454 I found it crazy how in some states it was hard to get a divorce that was related to domestic violence. I don't understand why some states did not consider that a ground for divorce, leaving these woman or men who were getting abused to stay in an abusive relationship was sad to hear. ]]> 2017-07-21 02:01:22 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179160454 Marriage Podcast sfreeman25 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179162659 It's hard to believe that marriage was once just for social and economical reasons and it was actually considered stupid to include love as the reason you would marry someone.  Our society has built relationships up around how we feel so much that to think you would marry someone you were not actually in love with or even knew is a totally foreign concept.  This does explain why there was so many extra marital affairs.
Shannon Freeman]]> 2017-07-21 02:36:45 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179162659 Podcast - Niccia Provenzano niropro3 https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179231133 People do have a hard time with divorces but good can come out of them by having a good relationship with that person r at least being able to communicate with them]]> 2017-07-22 18:49:06 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/n99xqlzedz1r/wish/179231133