Solomon - Map the argument - Huiyun , Hannah, Nadia, Kai Wen by Huiyun Jiang https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd Solomon mapping en-us 2023-02-12 22:19:40 UTC 2025-11-19 15:56:33 UTC hello@padlet.com Writer’s Main Thesis: “I have not tried here to defend vengeance as such, but my claim is that vengeance deserves its central place in a theory of justice and, whatever else we are to say about punishment, the desire for revenge must enter into our deliberations along with such emotions as compassion, caring, and love.” (paragraph 18) hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117002 2023-02-12 22:23:44 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117002 Subclaim #1 hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117327 2023-02-12 22:24:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117327 Evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117945 2023-02-12 22:25:52 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478117945 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118428 2023-02-12 22:26:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118428 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118612 2023-02-12 22:27:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118612 Subclaim #2 hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118884 2023-02-12 22:28:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478118884 Evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119451 2023-02-12 22:29:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119451 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119537 2023-02-12 22:29:48 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119537 Subclaim #3 hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119868 Because of these irrational thoughts, we take “the law into our own hands”, but in reality we have no power to take revenge]]> 2023-02-12 22:30:44 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2478119868 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480018693 2023-02-13 17:51:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480018693 Evidence/Rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480019311 2023-02-13 17:51:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480019311 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480021675 2023-02-13 17:53:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480021675 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480022383 2023-02-13 17:53:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480022383 Warrant hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480023866 2023-02-13 17:54:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480023866 Warrant hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480026383 2023-02-13 17:56:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480026383 backing hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480027675 2023-02-13 17:57:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480027675 qualifier hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480028480 2023-02-13 17:58:03 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480028480 qualifer hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480030434 2023-02-13 17:59:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480030434 qualifier hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480031208 2023-02-13 17:59:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480031208 counterclaim hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480032566 2023-02-13 18:00:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480032566 Counterclaim hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480033573 2023-02-13 18:01:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480033573 Counter-claim hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480034664 2023-02-13 18:02:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480034664 counter hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035061 2023-02-13 18:02:23 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035061 counter hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035318 2023-02-13 18:02:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035318 Counterclaim #6 hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035697 2023-02-13 18:02:52 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480035697 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480036092 2023-02-13 18:03:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480036092 Fit metaphor - punishment should "fit" the crime hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480037720 2023-02-13 18:04:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480037720 Balance metaphor hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480038653 2023-02-13 18:05:05 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480038653 Erasure metaphor hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480039223 2023-02-13 18:05:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480039223 counterclaim hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480040465 2023-02-13 18:06:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480040465 counter hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480040851 2023-02-13 18:06:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480040851 rebuttals hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480044503 2023-02-13 18:09:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480044503 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480044783 2023-02-13 18:09:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480044783 Rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480056510 2023-02-13 18:17:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480056510 Rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480058323 2023-02-13 18:19:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480058323 rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480058891 2023-02-13 18:19:34 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480058891 rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480059696 2023-02-13 18:20:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480059696 Rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480060241 2023-02-13 18:20:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480060241 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480063114 “My favorite objection to the "eye for an eye" formulation was leveled against retributivism by Lord Blackstone* back in the eighteenth century. He queried, "What is the equivalent harm when a two-eyed man knocks out the eye of a one-eyed man?" [4] Cute, to be sure, but hardly a knock-down argument against the idea that the punishment should fit the crime... To be sure, few of us would suggest that the law should inflict such a punishment, but the "fit" is evident enough to us…” (paragraph 11) 

]]> 2023-02-13 18:22:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480063114 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480065831 2023-02-13 18:24:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480065831 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480066401 2023-02-13 18:24:48 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480066401 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480066821 2023-02-13 18:25:08 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480066821 Rebuttal to balance evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480067575 "One problem is that this moral balance is often simply equated, in the crudest utilitarian fashion, with a balance of pleasure and pain, as if the application to the villain of an amount of pain equal to the amount of pain he or she has caused balances the scales. (We should remember again the standard allegorical figure of justice, this time with her scales.) Where the crime is strictly pecuniary, it might seem that balance (like the repayment of a debt) might be literally appropriate, but this, of course, isn't so. One can pay back the amount of money stolen or otherwise taken, but this does not yet take into account the offense itself. As soon as one must pay back even an extra penny, the literalness of the "balance" again comes into question. Granted the original sum has been repaid, but now what is the "cost" or the "price" of the crime? Again, my point is not that the metaphor of "balance" isn't applicable or revealing of how we think about justice, but it underscores rather than solves our problems." (paragraph 16)]]> 2023-02-13 18:25:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480067575 Evidence for erasure rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480068414 2023-02-13 18:26:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480068414 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480069008 2023-02-13 18:26:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480069008 rebuttal hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480069563 The argument [for rising above the urge to vengeance] is that instead of following that often narrow path to personal retribution we would much better embrace that expansive form of social consciousness in which we become more aware of the real desperation of others than we are of our own (usually petty) complaints...” (paragraph 19)(]]> 2023-02-13 18:27:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480069563 evidence hjiang12 https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480070450 “Despite volumes of propaganda to the contrary, experience seems to show that to see oneself as a helpless victim makes one less, and not more, likely to open one's heart to othersl...Justice is not forgiveness nor even forgetting but rather it is getting one's emotional priorities right, putting blame aside in the face of so much other human suffering and thereby giving up vengeance for the sake of larger and more noble emotions.” (paragraph 19) ]]> 2023-02-13 18:27:45 UTC https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480070450 Counterargument https://padlet.com/hjiang12/mxxbhrafdw48n7gd/wish/2480226219 “Many people believe that vengeance is the primary cause of the world's troubles today, causing unending feuds and vendettas that block every rational effort at resolution and peace.” (paragraph 18)

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