What are the strengths and weaknesses of the two approaches? by Daisy ZOU https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44 Made with joy en-us 2021-01-26 11:29:32 UTC 2021-03-02 08:47:29 UTC hello@padlet.com Product vs Process s1137109 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126215850 Product:
-Strengths = Clear example of the expected text and how it should be structured, can better understand how a text should be organized
-Weaknesses = lack of content/ originality/ creativity, not a lot of opportunity to plan or think of ideas

Process:
-Strengths = Allows students more opportunity to think of ideas, Allows students to be more creative or demonstrate their knowledge
-Weaknesses = Doesn't have a clear example of what they should be writing, doesn't give writers a purpose for writing]]> 2021-01-26 11:41:10 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126215850 Lihang Guan https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126226509 For the product approach:
+1. it gives clear instruction pertaining to how to write.
+2. it provides model grammar and lexicons for students who are new to writing to learn.

-1. it is not likely for students to produce something with high originality in the short run

For the process approach:
+1. It could be construed as a somewhat ‘flipped class’, which dictates students to spend lots of time on their own, and which can allow students to perfect the writings on their own.
-1. it neglects the language aspect in writing, which renders students to be highly likely to make linguistic errors.]]> 2021-01-26 11:44:51 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126226509 s1137194 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126233142 Product
+Linguistic knowledge about texts is given
+Imitation is acknowledge as one way of learning

-Process skills (planning a text are given a small role)
-knowledge and skills of learner are undervalued

Process
+Understand the importance of the skills involved in writing
+Recognize that what learners bring to the writing classroom contributes to the development of writing ability

-regard all writing as being produced by the same processes
-Offer insufficient input, especially the linguistic knowledge]]> 2021-01-26 11:47:18 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126233142 WU QIHUI https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126248940 Product approach
weaknesses:
mechanical, it undervalues the writer's ability 
strengths:
imitation is widely used, students can train their writing easily.

Process approach
weaknesses:
It solidifies the thinking process of writing. 
strengths:
 highlight the skills that allow students to explore]]> 2021-01-26 11:53:14 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126248940 FEI DENG 11367647 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126252057 Product Approach:
1.Advantage: students are provided with much helpful language for them to use.
2.Disadvantage: They may not know how to write once the topic is changed. Their ability of independent writing is not being well trained.

Process Approach:
1.Advantage: interactive activities can help students gather ideas and they have a general idea of  the writing skills.
2.Disadvantage: insufficient language input; not every genre writing follow the same process.]]> 2021-01-26 11:54:12 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126252057 strengths and weakness s1136748 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126262772 Process: 
strengths: inspire students to generate idea and have higher freedom of writing, which can help audience to write independently quicker.
weakness:
it is relatively hard  or unsuitable for beginner and low proficiency students.

Product:
strengths:
easy control by teachers
 it is easy for students have high degree of completion after class
weakness:
in some cases, too rigid/
students may relay too much on the materials provided]]> 2021-01-26 11:58:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126262772 Chen MingLi https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126264664 Product approach:
*advantages:
1.more systematic.the course structure is more clear
2.students may learn lots of useful writing skills and language using abilities.
3.for the starters, this may more easy for them to imitate.
*disadvantages:
1. A little bit boring
2.reducing the interest in writing

Process approach:
*advantages:
1.several activities may raise students interest in writing
2.may exercise students critical thinking ability 
*Disadvantages:
1.not very systematic for the starters
2.need basis

]]> 2021-01-26 11:58:57 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126264664 Viki s1136740 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126266271 Product approach: suitable for students who needs heavy scaffolding, this approach can provide clear  pattern for them to follow, and give them some basic inputs
However, the content and structure of the materials might be fixed, the creativity of students might be limited

Process approach:
more flexible and motivate students to share their own ideas, which is beneficial for higher abilities level of students. While for students with lower level abilities level they might feel this approach might be too challeenging.]]> 2021-01-26 11:59:34 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126266271 Chengmin Ran https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126271288 Product approach:
Pros:
1). Through imitation of input, students could acquire basic writing ability in a fast and convenient way.
2). Students could master the appropriate use of vocabulary, syntax and cohesive devices.
Cons:
1). Students are in a passive role during the whole process.
2). Writing process seems less attractive and inspiring.
3). Students lack of writing planning and a sense of revising.

Process product 
Pros:
1). Students are aware of the whole writing stages and have a big picture. Students are less likely to get lost during writing.
2). Students are in an active role by planning, collecting materials, organizing ideas etc.
Cons:
1). Students may ignore linguistic knowledge, causing grammar or vocabulary errors.
2). Since it is loop writing, it takes time.


]]> 2021-01-26 12:01:34 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126271288 Pros and cons of two approaches s1137198 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126276425 Product approach
Strengths: 
1. Students have a clear understanding of what they should write
2. Students able to identify text structure

Weakness:
1. No stimulation of students' creativity
2. Students might assume all writings are the same no matter the different audience.

Process approach
Strengths:
1. Encourage students' to be creative through group discussions or brainstorming activities
2. Students have a clear idea of the importance of different skills for writing

Weakness:
1. Students might assume that all writing processes are the same
2. Students might lack  of linguistic abilities
]]> 2021-01-26 12:03:24 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126276425 Strengths(-) and weaknesses(- -) of TWO models s1136712 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126279672 Product model
-help students on proper use of structure
-accessible for the novices

- -easily be restricted in the same model of writing


Process model
-raise students' concerns about content 
-focus on creating personal ideas

- -lack of instructions on structures for writing

]]> 2021-01-26 12:04:30 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126279672 WEI ZONGCHANG s1136728 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126281554 strength:
product: give students extra support in linguistic field. make the wrting easier.
process: give students freedom for creativity. through divergent thinking in peers, students are more inclined to generate more genius ideas.
weakness:
product: too much details dilute students' interests. fixed sentence structure and vocabulary useage make text less attracting.
process: some underperformers can't finish the task without linguistic scaffoldings.
the fixed sequence of drafting text will limit students' imagination.

]]> 2021-01-26 12:05:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126281554 X https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126289981 2021-01-26 12:08:30 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126289981 XIE WENLONG https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126290496 process
advantages: writers are able to learn more relevant knowledge during writing process and have ample opportunities to revise as well as getting feedback from peers
product
advantages:it is more straight-forward, students need to rely more on themselves]]> 2021-01-26 12:08:41 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126290496 product approach vs process approach s1137394 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126291918 2021-01-26 12:09:12 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126291918 product approach s1136749 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126292387 strength:
.students' independent thinking process and organizing structures
.less input from the teachers than the process approach
. good for the students with solid writing abilities

weakness:
once the writing piece is produce it's hard to revise with the writer step by step


Process approach:
strength
detailed, scaffolding, good for students lack of writing abilities
weakness
not all the genre could follow the stages]]> 2021-01-26 12:09:22 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126292387 strengths and weaknesses s1134677 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126294539 -process writing
strengths - ideas as starting point, more than one draft, collective effort, creativity has importance, more communicative.
Weakness- weaker students may find this approach difficult, may be grammar and spelling skills will be at lower level, its more time consuming

- product writing
Strengths- good for some special type of writing for e.g business reports as it has fixed layout or model to imitate, students get more familiarise with a target language to learn because of controlled practice.
Weakness- creativity is almost gone, very less communication because the emphasis is on final product rather than the process and no learning from peers and peers are not involved ]]> 2021-01-26 12:10:11 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126294539 s1136746 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126294748 Product
The teacher as the leader dominates and controls the entire teaching process.  Students do not have much room for free writing.  The final composition is the only basis for evaluating learning outcomes.

Process
This approach has a limit in the number of ss and can't develop ss 'writing skills in a short time.

]]> 2021-01-26 12:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126294748 Strength for process approach is to develop and form learners' own writing system and model, it is getting familiar the process of writing and can practice different genres in future. Weakness of process approach, it is difficult to assess if the content or construction has achieved standard because no refereed text as reference. s1137638 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126298041 Strength for product approach is suitable for writing learners who don't know how to start writing, waste a lot time to focused on writing. Product writing is easy to kick off. The weakness of product writing approach may be difficult to finish more different topics or genres demanding.]]> 2021-01-26 12:11:30 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126298041 Strengths and weakness s1134916 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126299165 1. Strengths:
Product appoach
- It does require students a lot of thinking. 
- It saves time to writing.
 Process appoach
- It gives students a lot of space and time to think about their own writing topics.
- It helps students achieve language knowledge through varieteis of classroom activites
- Students are fully engaged into the writing activity.

2. Weakness:
Product approach
- Students don't quite understand the knowledge behind what they are writing.

Process apporach
- It takes a lot of time for the students to work out the final piece.
- Students could possibly lose interest while they do the writing on the same topic over and over again.


]]> 2021-01-26 12:11:57 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126299165 s1137194 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126299432 Product
+Linguistic knowledge about text is given
+imitation is acknowledge as one way of learning

-process skills are given a small role
-knowledge and skills of learners are undervalued

Process
+understand the importance of the skills involved in writing
+Recognise that what learners bring to the writing classroom contributes to the development of writing ability

-regard all writing as being produced by the same processes
-offer insufficient input, especially the linguistic knowledge]]> 2021-01-26 12:12:04 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126299432 s1136689 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126310126 the pros of process approach:encourage creative writing, and you will be able to write more freely and have more diverse ideas.
the cons of process approach:unsuitable for lower level of students,too challenging for them without solid foundation

the pros of pruduct approach: It is easier to learn, easier to master, less pressure, suitable for low level of students
the cons:the true level of learners cannot be assessed]]> 2021-01-26 12:15:56 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126310126 s1136685 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126325975 product approach:
strength: linguistic knowledge is provided; students are more willing to learn in a detailed way.
weakness: they may not truly understand what structure and content are in the model text and they can not change them.
 
process approach:
strength: it promotes the development of language use and writing ability and is more creative.
weakness: it is not suitable for low-leveled students. The purpose and audience are not considered.
]]> 2021-01-26 12:21:21 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126325975 s11377891 https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126327256 2021-01-26 12:21:49 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126327256 YANG Yue https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126366520 Product: strength: imitation.
linguistic knowledge about texts is given.
weakness: innovation.
Weaken language knowledge and skills.

Process: strength: language use, varied classroom activities, students engagement, improve the writing ability.
weakness: same process, offer insufficient input.]]> 2021-01-26 12:34:24 UTC https://padlet.com/dizoudaisy/44/wish/1126366520