https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe support or refute an idea mentioned in the circle, then respond to a classmate's comment en-us 2018-02-05 16:19:09 UTC 2018-02-15 18:10:28 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231954947 2018-02-15 15:33:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231954947 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955030 I agree with Ross, because they are trying to hunt the beast, but they are the beast. This is dramatic irony, and the beast is symbolically inside of them, not a real thing.

I disagree that the conch represents stocks.]]> 2018-02-15 15:33:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955030 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955075 I refute what Drazen is saying. They aren't hunting each other. They aren't the beast. Symbolically the beast is within and doesn't even exist. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:33:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955075 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955118 Idea: There is dramatic irony because the boys are hunting the beast, which is within them.

I agree

Idea: The boys dont want to accept that theyŕe the beast and they killed the truth (Simon)

I agree

I agree that the conch represents civilization.

I disagree that the conch represents stocks

I agree that the flies eating off of the pigs head represents the boys feeding on evil.

I disagree the Jack knew of the pig.]]> 2018-02-15 15:33:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955118 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955183 I agree with Talayah that it is ironic that they are  choir boys, and they turn into complete savages. They used to be very polite young boys, now they are killing each other and going insane]]> 2018-02-15 15:33:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955183 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955379 I agree with the fact that there is dramatic irony with the fact that they think there is a beast, and really it is a part of them.]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955379 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955581 I agree that the boys did not want to accept the truth so when Simon tried to say something he was killed.]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955581 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955588 I agree with idea of there being situational irony when the boys are trying to hunt the beast, but they are the beast themselves.

I agree with the idea that the conch represents authority. It is used to call all the other boys and the boys have to respect the conch. That is why the savages ignored it. They ignored authority. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955588 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955606 I agree with that the conch represents civilization.]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955606 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955713 I agree with the idea that they are hunting the beast but realistically, they do not realise that the beast is in them, and they are hunting themselves which they do not understand. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:37 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955713 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955831 I agree that there is dramatic irony about the beast.]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955831 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955911 I agree with Talayah that they are hunting each other instead of the beast
I also agree with Kaitlyn. Why was Jack holding a knife.
I agree with Daleigh that it's ironic that they escape a war but they recreate a war themselves.
Talayah said that the conch is civiliziation

]]> 2018-02-15 15:34:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955911 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955975 I agree with Kaitlyn's statement about Jack's weapon. The book never explains how Jack finds the knife.]]> 2018-02-15 15:35:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231955975 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231956013 I agree with Gracie because in the book, one of the boys named Simon did know that the beast wasn't real, but was killed before he the boys understood what he was trying to say. The boys didn't want to believe that the beast wasn't real. The dramatic irony of Simon dying and knowing the beast was within. Also, I agree with Daleigh that the boys have a war against the "beast", but are turning on each other. There was no civilization even though they tried to use the conch to have things organized.]]> 2018-02-15 15:35:05 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231956013 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231956658 I agree that it was ironic that they were trying to find the truth but then they didn't because they killed Simon. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231956658 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231960129 I agree with Talayah, the conch does represent civilization. The conch is the tool they use to bring the boys together when they have discussions. So, it represents civilization because when they come together and talk about their plan they are being civil.]]> 2018-02-15 15:41:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231960129 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231961595 I do not agree with Drazen saying the conch is the stock market.]]> 2018-02-15 15:43:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231961595 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964302 I disagree with Austin. I feel none of us are evil people just see it from a different perspective. I disagree with Hailey. I disagree with Grahm. They didn't need to 🤬 them becuase they were a threat. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964302 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964324 I agree that there is evil within everyone, though for most it is easy to conceal. For others, they allow the evil to take over rather than suppress it. I disagree that they only killed to survive. I believe they may have killed the pig at first for food, but it soon became ritualistic. They also had no reason to 🤬 the other boys, because they were trying to work together, but some resisted. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964324 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964404 I agree that  everyone has evil inside of them but it doesn't always come out. Everybody is not born with evil but it is something that is formed. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964404 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964459 We are forced into violence to protect people. but some people are evil like they are born that way and they were born to hurt people]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964459 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964468 I agree that man is always inherently evil, but that it takes a certain situation (like being stranded on an island) can unleash that. The little boys did not have COMPLETE knowledge of right from wrong because they do not have exerience, so the influence of evil has effects on everyone. I disagree that people are born evil and that others aren't, I think everyone is evil, it just comes to certain lengths to spark it and make it come out.]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964468 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964506 I agree with Austin's statement, in only some certain circumstances, does that evil contained in everybody comes out.  It all depends on the situation that you are in. I also agree that men are all evil, but some are born more evil than others, and some are born less evil than others. Some also may be evil on the inside, but only bring it out in a certain situation. 
I also agree that Piggy and RAlph knew that they had to keep the boys on the island civilized, and they knew what would happen if they did not. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:31 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964506 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964606 Many people feel there is a small amount of evil inside of everyone. The evil came out of the children and started killing for sport without realizing it. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964606 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964613 I agree that everyone has some evil inside them and it takes certain situations to bring it out. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964613 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964631 I'd have to agree that there is evil in everyone because on a religious level we are baptized to get rid of original sin and cleanse the soul. In a different situation most people don't like to admit that they know what is right and wrong but still have the urge to do evil. One person may choose to go down a path where evil is profound and glorified but deep down they know it's wrong. Violence today refers to the evil we have and sometimes can't control because they may know it's wrong but it's the evil that comes out in everyone. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964631 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964708 I disagree with Anthony saying that there was evil in piggy and he was losing his connection to civilization. Out of everyone Piggy and Ralph had the most understanding between what's real and what's not. I think that part of that was Piggy's glasses because it was another main connection to civilization. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:51 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964708 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964740 I don't agree with Miriam because people are born evil, it is in human nature. Without society the evil comes out. No matter what you learn, you still have evil in you. Miriam doesn't even support her point, there is no evidence for it.]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:53 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964740 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964803 I agree that everyone has evil within them, however some chose to hide and are able to suppress it. Additionally, situations, such as that of the boys on the island, may bring out that "beast" or evil inside.]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964803 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964819 I agree with Austin that we all have evil in us but it takes certain circumstances to bring that out. I also agree with the  discussion that evil can be hidden and based on your upbringing you may not hide it well ]]> 2018-02-15 15:47:58 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231964819 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231965003 Y'all I'm shook Tess knows whats up they went WILD
Also Austin is correct boys are usually ready to throw hands]]> 2018-02-15 15:48:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231965003 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231965127 I agree that everyone has some evil in them and some people choose to hide evil while others choose to express it. I also agree on the fact that how you respond or react to evil may shape the way you hide or show evil.]]> 2018-02-15 15:48:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231965127 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231967795 I'd have to agree that in situations your personality and characteristics do change because you can't plan how your going to react. For instance take the recent Florida shooting, you can practice drills and know where to go when violence comes into any area such as an educational building but you don't know and can't predict what you will do when you come to the decision of fight/fight or survive/civilize. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:52:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231967795 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231967907 No graham and no abby that is a terrible point you don't just forgot to not 🤬 someone]]> 2018-02-15 15:52:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231967907 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231968402 I feel the hunting of the pigs for meat is perfectly fine but killing their own peers for sport shows how wrong it really is. ]]> 2018-02-15 15:53:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231968402 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231969115 I agree that it just gets closer and closer to killing people  every time they 🤬 an animal and enjoy it

]]> 2018-02-15 15:54:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231969115 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231969942 Some murders started by killing animals before they ever killed people because they got their lust for blood when they killed they animal. That's why they started to 🤬 people]]> 2018-02-15 15:55:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231969942 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231971604 2018-02-15 15:58:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231971604 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231972591 🤬 ]]> 2018-02-15 15:59:42 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231972591 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231976728 I believe it also matters what someone was growing up with and how they were punished for evil acts. ]]> 2018-02-15 16:06:05 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231976728 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231977932 2018-02-15 16:07:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231977932 https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231979335 I think some people are able to control their evil while others, like Jack, go wild because he knows there will be no consequences.]]> 2018-02-15 16:09:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hillhan000/lxxz0f4kz8xe/wish/231979335