https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y AP discussion 10/25 en-us 2017-10-25 17:15:48 UTC 2017-10-25 18:02:16 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200540888 Analyze the first four lines of "Mental Cases"

These
Twilight
Rock
Purgatorial shadows
Drooping tongues and baring teeth
slob theri relish
skulls

]]> 2017-10-25 17:47:38 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200540888 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541622 "These" = not apart of them
"purgatorial" - gray area, reality + fantasy, sane vs. insane 
Drooping tongues: lack of self control; animals, 
Twilight- state of being - crazy 
skulls: dead, decay


Owen describes the soldiers as "these" and "they" because he objectifies them. He compares the soldiers to animals with "drooping tongues" and "baring teeth" showing that the soldiers have ]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:49 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541622 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541629 "Purgatorial"= Intermediate state after physical death(purifying soul from sin)
"leer"= Gaze unpleasantly 
"Who are these"= Not seen as human 
"Drooping tongues from jaws"= Deceased soldiers( men killed in war)
"relish"= Extreme enjoyment 
"Tongues wicked"= Soldiers compared to animals 
Owen depicts the soldiers as unhuman-like due to the poet saying the phrase "Who are these?", making them objectified. ]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:50 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541629 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541631 "shadows" : no longer actual people
"like skulls' tongues" : simile, dead 
"purgatorial": stuck in their minds
"rock": still like a rock, not moving
"baring teeth": no longer humans, savagery
Owen objectifies the soldiers and describes them as no longer human  to criticize war and emphasize the negative impacts it has on soldiers physically and mentally.]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:50 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541631 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541652 "drooping tongues from jaws that slob" = men who are savage, dogs
"leer like skulls" = simile,
"these" = soldiers are no longer thought as being humans
"rock" = still, 
Owen speaks of the soldier using "these" to show that they have been dehumanized. The soldiers are compared as "rocks" because they are still, they're not moving from the state of mind they're currently in. The soldiers have become savages as they ]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:52 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541652 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541685 "jaws that slob their relish" = Personification 
"Purgatorial Shadows" = purgatorial  is between so they are stuck in between thoughts of war
"baring teeth"= animal like 
"skulls"= simile they are pretty much dead

Owen describes the soldiers as human shells that are dead inside due to the mental impact the war had on them.]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:55 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541685 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541717 "Twilight" = being lost and soldiers can't find themselves 
"Purgatorial shadows" = being in between heaven and hell, the soldiers are clinging on to life, redeem themselves 
"Rock"= when they are dead without movement, catatonic state
"Drooping tongues"
-stuck in their minds
-turned into animals no longer humans
-compared to skulls, pretty much dead 
Wilfred Owen compares soldiers to mental cases because the was has affected their physical and mental state. The soldiers are still and dead from within. Owen uses similes and imagery to depict the blank state the soldiers are in as a result of war.]]> 2017-10-25 17:48:58 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541717 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541760 "These"= not human beings
"Twilight"= point in time between day and night
"skulls"= not human anymore, dead on the inside
"Rock"= can't' move on from what happened or "rocking" back in forth between their present lives and what they suffered at war

Owen is describing the soldiers as "these" because they are no longer human beings. After the war they have suffered way too much, more than they are able to handle so they're just skulls now. All of these soldiers are dead on the inside because they can't seem to adapt to their post-war lives because of how much they have been affected by it. These soldiers are "rocks" and are stuck on what happened to them. They constantly repeat images in their heads.

]]> 2017-10-25 17:49:01 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541760 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541804 Soldiers are being dehumanized by being described as "these" and "they"
The Soldiers' mental illness has taken away their human characteristics
"jaws that slob their relish" = ironic/sarcastic
"twilight"= between day and night
soldiers are stuck in their own thoughts 
Owen describes the soldiers as "they" and "these" to dehumanize the soldiers. He does this to show how the soldiers are no longer human now that they are dealing with mental illness. Owen describes the soldiers "jaws that slob their relish" to be ironic about the their situation. ]]> 2017-10-25 17:49:04 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541804 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541883 As narrator explores the mental hospital, he sees the "baring teeth that leer like skulls' tongues wicked." demonization of patients. Patients are compared to monsters. Emphasize that they aren't human. 
 ]]> 2017-10-25 17:49:12 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541883 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541929 "these", "they" = not human anymore and not themselves 
"twilight"= between night and morning, the soldiers are being part of two different worlds 
"baring teeth like skulls"= grinning giving off a creepy smile, they are slowly decaying and going crazy, being dehumanized because they're being compared similar to dogs and animals

Owen describes the soldiers as "these" and "they" because the soldiers are no longer human. They are purposely being objectified because war has taken them from reality. He even describes the soldiers being in "twilight" because they are in between reality and in their memories of war. They aren't able to maintain themselves in reality.]]> 2017-10-25 17:49:17 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200541929 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200542211 "Who are these"= external POV
"these" = not human 
"slob their relish" = sinister tone 
"twilight"= between day & night →soldiers stuck in their minds (reminded of war)
Wilfred Owen describes soldiers as "these" who are "baring teeth that leer like skulls' tongues wicked"]]> 2017-10-25 17:49:48 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200542211 dwhite49119 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200542474 "...leer like skuls..." = simile
"purgatorial" = suffering, torture, misery
twilight = a period or state of obscurity
relish = great enjoyment
drooping = bend or hang
Soldiers described as "these" and "they" = dehumanizing
soldiers are in purgatory 

Wilfred Owen describes the soldiers as "these" and "they" which objectifies and dehumanizes the soldiers returning from war. The act of dehumanizing them ties with the soldiers shadows being described as "purgatorial" showing that they are stuck in their war mindset and cannot leave it.


]]> 2017-10-25 17:50:05 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200542474 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543459 " These" "they" = not themselves any more 
"...leer like skulls" simile  bc skulls are already dead, they feel dead 
relish = great enjoyment
purgatory : removing sun 
twilight : between day and night 
 Soldiers - stuck in their minds (purgatory)
"rock" : going back and forth , still as a rock... not moving
"drooping tongues" - savage , animals , turned into animals no longer human 

Wilfred Owen describes soldiers as "these" and "they" to reveal that soldiers are victims of war and are not themselves after it. Along with this, Owen utilizes the simile"leer like skulls..." to ]]> 2017-10-25 17:51:23 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543459 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543558 "drooping tongues from jaws" = the mouths of the soldiers that have died
"these" & "they" = treating them as an object not human

Owen objectifies the soldiers by referring to the soldiers as "they" and "these" as]]> 2017-10-25 17:51:31 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543558 https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543853 " drooping tongues from jaws" 
They use a simile to depict how these men have died and cant put them selves together anymore.  They have turned into dogs because they have lost all of their sense.

Analysis: Owen describes the solders to "droop [their] tongues from jaws" because they have lost their basic understandings of life. They have no notion on what they are doing, therefore they have became like animals. They are wild and untamed because of the horrific what they have gone through in the war ]]> 2017-10-25 17:52:00 UTC https://padlet.com/koo_kathy/lx6atpime05y/wish/200543853