CUIN 3313 Discussion 5B-Digital Video -Peer Response by Bulent Dogan (Dr. Bulent Dogan) https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul Please post your discussion by Tuesday, July 18th, 11:59 pm en-us 2017-07-11 15:18:46 UTC 2019-10-07 21:27:48 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Moderncam.png CUIN 3313 Discussion 5B "Digital Video"-Peer Response bdogan1 https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178490395
INSTRUCTIONS: 

Double click on canvas or click on the Plus sign at the bottom right corner to add your post.

Discussion Prompt:

Select one of your classmate’s posts from the 5a Padlet and find a video clip on Youtube, Vimeo, etc. that exemplifies the takeaway your classmate identified in the post. Link to the video clip and explain how you see the takeaway exemplified in the video. (The video clip can be from any genre - instructional, entertaining, informational, etc.)

Post to this Padlet by Tuesday, July 18, 11:59pm.

]]> 2017-07-11 15:18:46 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178490395 My Response to Student Ryan Crisp - Braquece Smith https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178594454 Ryan is addressing an issue that affects many students and professionals in the world today, short attention spans. I believe it is much easier to pay attention to someone facilitating a conversation rather than listening to someone preach about a certain topic. The video I have chosen to explain Ryan's post in more detail is a short clip about how business leaders are having to make your point shorter, and deliver it in many different ways in order to keep the attention of your audience. I think it applies to video production, as well. ]]> 2017-07-12 22:16:34 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178594454 My Response to Student Braquece Smith - Mykalea Cupp-Vasquez https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178667721 Braquece is talking about how music is important in videos and the music effects our emotions in the videos we watch. I would have to agree, Music has a way of making us feel happy, sad, or excited. I have a friend who is a Cinematographer and one of his jobs is to site up a scene. For example if he has to create a scene with sadness but plays happy music the scene would not make sense. Music is the key to create a prefect clip or scene. It does not matter is it in a learning video or training or just in music videos or feature films. Music plays a big roll in our lives. The video I have chosen to explain what Braquece is addressing about how music is important. ]]> 2017-07-13 19:19:48 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178667721 My response to Ryan Crisp- Sanober Naz https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178669715 I agree with Ryan Crisp that videos should focus on entertaining the viewer. With all the distractions around, this tactic will engage the viewer to keep on watching. I too dread long, boring videos. I love when videos express meaningful messages through comedy. I found this short film on YouTube with slight humor and an interesting lesson behind it!

]]> 2017-07-13 20:04:00 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178669715 My response to student Bianca Guerra - Laura Gaytan https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178738678 Bianca discussion talks about how music is a very important role when it come to a video. The music is a key of attracting humans, like she mentions. When making a video the music should match with the content of the main idea, meaning trying to get that message across. I also agree when she mentions that the type of music that you choose should be for what the audience you are trying to attract. Being able to determine the type of audience should be also be one of the main focus.]]> 2017-07-14 23:01:51 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178738678 Response to Laura Gayton- Mary Henderson https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178763677 Yes I agree it is important to present something to your audience that they would like, that would peak the interests of the majority of the audience. It will also get more people to speak their opinion afterward if they are interested in what is being shown.]]> 2017-07-15 18:52:51 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178763677 Response to student Ryan Crisp - Tien Vo https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178764378 In Ryan's post he mentions that it is important to make interesting video to keep the viewers engaged. I agree with him and also agree with the lack of attention span most student have when they are watching an instructional video. The video that I have attached below is a fun short attention span test video that tests if a person has short attentions span or not. I find that in the video that the person speaking is trying his best to capture the attention of the audience by not being so monotone, utilizing some hand movements, and talking in an upbeat tone.

]]> 2017-07-15 19:10:36 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178764378 Response to Mykalea Cupp Vasquez-Esra Babaturk https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178765772 Mykalea's post mentions online classes and how the impact and success of the class is reliant on the importance of creative and engaging videos for the subject at hand. I can say I have taken classes that had online lectures that were long boring videos of a professor talking on and on and on to where I would zone out because it was literally nothing but a video of the professor talking. Other classes online have had more engaging, where, like Mykalea said, mixed things up. Some lectures would be interactive power points, others would be, like this class, a variety of activities and discussions that were all engaging and fun. ]]> 2017-07-15 20:18:43 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178765772 My Response to Student Braquece Smith - Dennise Caicedo https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178770417 Braquece discussed how music has the power to evoke emotions and responses from the audience. I agree, music gives us different feelings such as happiness, anger, and sadness. I also agree that the right music needs to be played to support the story that is being presented. The audience will respond better to the message of the story if they feel a connection. This will keep them focused on the presentation and undistracted. I chose a short video that demonstrates how music evokes emotions.

]]> 2017-07-16 00:20:58 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178770417 Response to Student Braquece Smith - Pichoudam Peou oudam12 https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178804218 Braquece talked about how music has the power to elicit different emotions. Music can influence your audience to be more attentive. I completely agree with Braquece. It is important for videos that sound and music that align with the visual contents. I don't believe that a video without sound can effectively convey its overall purpose. The video I have chosen is a music video without sound. It's a very popular song by Rihanna and Drake. ]]> 2017-07-16 21:48:45 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178804218 My Response to Student Madison Cockrell-Xxx Piya https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178805461 Madison believed her biggest takeaway from the readings was the power music and colour has in eliciting emotional responses from the audience. She also mentioned that music and colour can be deliberately used to portray a feeling, which I completely agree with. One of the best visualization of her takeaway is the the highly renown colour-turning scene in Wizard of Oz. It has dramatic music and the addition of colour evidently signifies how Dorothy is no longer in Kansas. The music and colour has been magnificently used to transition between the two worlds.

]]> 2017-07-16 22:33:12 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178805461 Response to student Ryan Crisp-Elizabeth Ramirez https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178810108 I agree with Ryan that attention span is important and we need to be able to engage the viewer now more than ever. I have found a video that might explain why our attention span is getting shorter.  ]]> 2017-07-17 00:13:10 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178810108 My response to student Ryan Crisp salihe78 https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178827545 Ryan Crisp talks about how keeping the viewers entertained is an essential part to digital storytelling. I completely agree with. I also think that adding emotions to the videos to capture the viewers attention and to make the video more interesting. I am including a trailer movie "War for the Planet of the Apes". It is about a cast of animals in this case monkeys which act upon humans. This video captures the attention of the viewer throughout the movie. Also I like how the Apes has transitioned throughout the series, from the basic words, to sign language, simple sentences, to fluent English. It is amazing show, truly a piece of art. ]]> 2017-07-17 04:26:11 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178827545 My Response to Student Braquece Smith- Ryan Crisp https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178857813 Braquece talked about music can bring out different emotions in a person. I believe that music can reach you in many different ways, it can get you excited for season of your favorite sports team when a new season is about to start. Music can bring out the best in some one when they are trying to get pumped for something. The most recent example is at the beginning of the 2017 season, the Astros put out a video to get everyone excited for the season.

]]> 2017-07-17 13:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178857813 My Response to Laura Gaytan-Sherri Quach https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178901824 Laura talks about what she found important from reading, "6 tips to create engaging training videos" was that it is important to present a video that the audience can be interested and connected with. I agree, I attached a kids training video on teaching them how to count to 10. I felt like it fit perfect for this discussion and just made the perfect example of an engaging training video because the video reflected the 6 tips about keeping the video short, keeping things light, adding variety to the presentation, mixing it up, and addressing short attention spans (because we all know kids have a very short attention span). ]]> 2017-07-18 00:03:38 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178901824 My Response to student Laura Gaytan – Angela Maldonado https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178915424 In training videos, it is essential to connect with the audience. The article 6 Tips to Create Engaging Training Videos gives a good explanation why is it important to incorporate these tips. Laura, one tip that stood out to me the most to me was connection. In this YouTube video, it gives an example how to create good connection video. Training videos can sometimes be boring if there is no connection. Therefore, it is good to do research in how to create an engaging training video. The firefighter is talking directly to the audience. The video captures the attention of the public right way. Also, video doesn’t only show the firefighter talking it changes the presentation. The training video shows and explains the fire hydrant guidelines. Moreover, the video is less than 9 minutes. The firefighter training video is an excellent example of how a training video should be.
https://youtu.be/t4w41U10kwA

]]> 2017-07-18 02:34:28 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178915424 My Response to Elizabeth Ramirez - by Bianca Guerra https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178923547
Elizabeth mentions a big factor in keeping the attention of your audience during training videos is giving them something to relate to that connects with their emotions. She chooses a video that captures the emotions of the audience while teaching them a special importance. In the same way I chose this video that can be used in a training video to remind and inform people that bullying in the workplace/or in school exists and using an interesting group of inspirational people to teach them of the confidence in working hard to achieve their goals no matter what anybody may say. These two videos are great way to incorporate motivation in training. ]]> 2017-07-18 04:14:51 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178923547 My Response to Bianca Guerra- by Kasey Lunar https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178925064 Bianca explains that music has an effect on keeping viewers focused while watching training videos. She also explains that music can cause emotions to surface. I agree with Bianca that music plays a large role in training videos. Music is a form of expressionism which allows others to find their own way to relate to the subject of the song(s). The video I have chosen explains how sound affects us psychologically. It also explains how music can help enhance intelligence and learning. ]]> 2017-07-18 04:38:42 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178925064 My response to Lia Hext-Madison Cockrell simplymadi12 https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178975260 Lia really latched on to the idea of being creative in your videos to evoke emotion to really grab the audience's attention. I also agree with her when she says that people view multiple videos a day that include lots of color and dramatic music and layout, but its the creativity of the entire video and topic that really reels them in. I decided to use a reaction video to Fergie's music video to M.I.L.F. It shows that just because something is flashy and fun does not always mean everyone will like it. ]]> 2017-07-18 17:21:33 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178975260 My response to student Salihe Bislimi https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178976909 Salihe makes very good points of how to get the audience attention by making catchier videos using psychology.  She explains the importance of using color to draw attention from the viewer and how color affects your moods.  When we see attractive colors we tend to pay attention, even if is vivid colors on a magazine. She also mentions the importance of music and emotions that added to the video. People love to watch and listen to catchy sounds. ]]> 2017-07-18 17:51:07 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178976909 Response to Dennise Caicedo fuentesreyna https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178980255 Great post Dennise I feel like our two posts are closely correlated. Your emphasis on the fact that its not just positive emotions that keep an audience engaged is important. Any emotion be it anger, sadness, loneliness, etc., can cause an audience member to be more engaged because they feel something about the subject in question negative or positive. It is also important to note that having your audience engaged isn't specific to only a video but to any presentation one might be giving. Allowing the audience to immerse themselves and reflect on how they feel or what they take away from a presentation in its entirety is important. ]]> 2017-07-18 18:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178980255 My response to Payton Bridges - By:Karla Sanchez https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178984178 Bridges talks about how people react to colors differently. They point out some different ways if affects us, for example they say emotions are drowns out from certain colors, and i agree with what they are saying. I associate colors withs feelings so when i see things that are bright I usually thing happy, or if i see something dark like black and grey i think of something scary. I also agree with colors greatly having an impact with people and it can be seen in how celebrities use colors in their music videos like Taylor Swifts Bad Blood music video she uses single colors to paint an clear image on the darkness in her video which is famously known for her feud with Katy Perry. She uses dark colors like black and grey along with red and white to make it clear her video is dark. ]]> 2017-07-18 19:58:24 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178984178 My Response to Sanober Naz- by Zainab Naqvi https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178991289 Sanober mentions how music, color, and emotions are key to keeping viewers engaged while watching a clip. I agree, when watching something the music in the background is the initial draw in of a person, the visual aspect of how vibrant colors is what "glues" someone to a screen. The sight sense is heightened when loud or bright colors are shown. When something emotionally speaks to you, psychologically it keeps you reeled in because it relates to you on a personal level. ]]> 2017-07-18 23:15:51 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178991289 My Response to Abby Van Eman-by yige zhang https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178995039 Abby indicated how important that emotional content and dramatic question can truly change the connection between audiences and digital storytelling. Both points can not only catch audiences' attention, but also create a bridge of emotional response for both sides. When digital storytelling associated with real life experiences, it would largely enhance the audiences' memories. The following video shows how storytelling can change in spreading ideas, knowledge, personal experiences, and so on.

]]> 2017-07-19 00:01:53 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178995039 My Response to Dennise Caicedo - by Josephine Daih https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178999375 Dennise describes how emotions are a powerful tool that can truly connect an audience with the content that is being displayed in a video. Her post states that emotions have great psychological effects and take a significant role in our decision making. In the video I’ve chosen “The Art of Purposeful Storytelling” the speaker Peter Guber reinforces Dennise’s post, the idea that emotions play an important part in engaging the viewer, especially when he states that “when bonded with the information, makes it memorable, resident, and actual.” The video's message essentially states that emotions make content relatable and in turn gives the audience a feeling of ownership. This keeps their focus.]]> 2017-07-19 00:58:23 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/178999375 Response to Braquece Smith - Payton Bridges https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179001264 I agree that music is emotional and has a great effect on what you watch. For example, the song in the movie Jaws makes you hold on to the edge of your seat in suspense while a if there were no music you would just be staring at a floating boat with no inclination on what is going to happen and what your reaction will be. Certain videos also have certain meanings. Most athletic commercials have music that gets you excited and ready to work out or train. If those videos that are supposed to get you pumped up are playing songs like Angel by Sarah McLaughlan then the whole point would be missed. ]]> 2017-07-19 01:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179001264 Response to Karla Sanchez https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179001893 What I got out of Karla's feedback was how we can use technology to enhance our learning. There are many things that are outside factors that can distract us. You need to plan for your audience. In the video I watched it talks about how important it is to know your audience. The teacher wants the best possible way to teach her students in a way that they will obtain the most knowledge possible.]]> 2017-07-19 01:43:03 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179001893 My Response to Student -Ellen Hay https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007179 I strongly agree with the connection in storytelling and emotions. A lot of the times it is hard to sit through a video, especially a long one, and actually have any type of reaction to it when we are not emotionally invested. Viewing content that relates to us not only draws in our attention but also makes things easier for us to understand. And often times you are able to see another person's perspectives on things when an emotional connection are involved. 
Here is a short film that I feel depicts storytelling that delivers a great emotional connection.

-Nina MacCarthy ]]> 2017-07-19 02:41:36 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007179 Response to sherri Quach- maria Lozano https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007584 The point of making an engaging training video has a lot of impact of the trainee. Everyone is different and I think you have to dig deeper to really try to engage everyone in your audience. I agree with the 6 tips that were shown on how to make a good video,they really layout the best ways to make a good video. ]]> 2017-07-19 02:47:20 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007584 Response to Madison Cockrell https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007839 Lia Hext
I find the concept of music, color and dance to be intriguing because we can't always explain why we are attracted to certain colors and music. Sometimes, we just know it stands out to us in our minds. When I think of music and color, a dance video from one million comes to my mind. The flashy dark colors and slow rap song create the theme for the dance routine. The dancers use the melody and certain lyrics to create dance moves that catch the eye and "pop". When the dancers make a sharp move, the lighter colors will shine on them to help exemplify the moves that will most connect the audience. I thought this video best exemplified your post on how videos use colors and music to design a creative video piece. Enjoy!  side note: Explicit lyrics for anyone who watches. 

]]> 2017-07-19 02:50:45 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179007839 My Response to Abby Van Eman https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009014 Abby, I agree that asking a dramatic question can catch the attention of your audience. In this video, David talks about how creating a 'hook' such as asking a dramatic question helps keep people's interest, and makes them watch more of the video. I agree that a dramatic question stands out as one of the key elements in creating a good story! - Ellen Hay]]> 2017-07-19 03:06:45 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009014 My Response to Maria Lozano- By Monique Harris https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009264 I agree, keeping your participants focused based on the length of the material is very important. As a facilitator you need to know what gets peoples attention and how to keep learners concentrated. Keeping the video short for each chapter is a great idea because you do not want to stick on chapter for too long when explaining other materials. Your learners could easily get distracted with long videos especially if objective is boring. In this video they kept the video short with creative drawings to keep the audience entertained and focused . They kept each subject short and made sure their last subject will relate to their next subject.]]> 2017-07-19 03:12:00 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009264 My Response to Braquece Smith- By Kylie Thompson https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009344 Braquece mentions that music is very important, because it has the power to bring out emotions and responses from an audience. I completely agree with this, because music is widely known throughout the world and is used for several different reasons. The video I chose to attach is the Warner Bro's Introduction Video. I chose this video, because every time I hear it, I feel like something big is about to happen. If I were to hear it on the radio, I would immediately think of watching a movie. ]]> 2017-07-19 03:13:51 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179009344 Response to Braquece Smith- By Winnie Reece https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179011312 Barquece discusses the importance of music in a video and the emotional responses the audience feels. I certainly agree that music is an instrumental piece of art. It reaches people from all different cultures and can even unite the people. The video I have chosen is Justin Timberlake's Can't stop the feeling music video without music. Usually watching this music video makes you want to get up and move to beat but without music the video is strange and awkward. ]]> 2017-07-19 03:37:24 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179011312 My Response to student Payton Bridges-Estefany Cortez https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017361 I agree with you Payton. If filmmakers use colors to manipulate the viewers moods, then I'm sure it does cause a big effect! They need to convey the message of the movie through colors, so they can catch the attention of the viewers. Film directors are definitely exploiting the effect of color on our emotions, to make profit.

]]> 2017-07-19 04:56:46 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017361 My response to Elizabeth Ramirez- Cinia Rodas https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017773 2017-07-19 05:03:25 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017773 My response to Elizabeth Ramirez- Cinia Rodas https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017895 Elizabeth mentioned in her post that emotional content is important in creating a video because it helps the trainee understand and relate to the content. I agree to what she said, because it puts a different perspective to the trainee, and it will help the trainee understand and retain the content faster. Not only that, buy adding emotional content will help retain the trainee's attention for a longer amount of time. When I read Elizabeth's post I immediately thought of the SPCA commmerial.]]> 2017-07-19 05:05:16 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179017895 My Response to Elizabethee Ramirez's post- Cinia R https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179018398 Elizabeth mentioned in her post that emotional content is important in a training video so that the trainee can understand and relate to the content. I agree with her post, because adding emotional content to a training video adds a different perspective and a deeper level of understanding to the trainee. Adding emotional content to a training video will capture the trainee's attention, and it will help the trainee retain information. I immediately thought of the SPCA commercial because it easily triggers the audience emotions easily.]]> 2017-07-19 05:14:01 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179018398 https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179018631 2017-07-19 05:19:01 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/179018631 nurazanna https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/237288203 2018-03-02 06:03:30 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/237288203 My response to Jorge Ramos' post- Diseye A dbajeh https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/289977559 Jorge mentioned that finding a way to keep the viewers engaged was very important. I agree. Jorge also pointed out that using "visuals, sounds, the story behind the video and colors" are great ways of connecting with viewers. I think combining all these things and keeping the video short and informative is key. The video that I found is very visually compelling. It is very important for the viewers to stay engaged because they are learning how to say words in a different language. Visuals and colors are used very well to keep viewers engaged in this video. ]]> 2018-10-07 04:21:23 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/289977559 My Response to Tien Vo freespiritedthoughts https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/394732949 My classmate mentions that "less is more" is one of the key points they took away from their readings. They mention they prefer to watch videos that are "clear, concise, and straight to the point. " I also learn better when videos are short and clear, one of the content creators that got me through high school is crash course on Youtube, that I consider to be an example of clear and concise. ]]> 2019-10-07 21:22:41 UTC https://padlet.com/bdogan1/llbc9lytriul/wish/394732949