Is this a justified shooting by Law Enforcement Officers? by Garry Sims https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions Law Enforcement Officers in Oklahoma attempted to serve arrest warrants on a wanted man. Video image shows the man coming from a place of concealment while armed with a knife. There is a confrontation between the Law Enforcement Officers and the man, resulting in him being fatally shot. You are invited to view the video and join the discussion stating your view if you believe that the shooting of the man was justified. WARNING this is actual footage and graphic in nature. It is your option to view the video or not. INSTRUCTIONS: If you think the shooting was justified, give it a "thumbs up." If you think it was not justified, give it a "thumbs down". THEN post your justification in an individual comment. Remember to rate others comments by "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" en-us 2017-11-05 21:39:18 UTC 2017-11-10 00:20:17 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Balance.png ACTUAL VIDEO FOOTAGE OF SHOOTING g_sims https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/203688845 Warning: graphic in nature:
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I believe the actions of the officer involved were justified. The man was hiding underneath laundry obviously trying to avoid being found and could have potentially injured if not killed the Officers who were searching the place. 

The man can be seen lunging at the police officer who is cornered in the room - this is posing a threat and as a result, the officer fired, killing the man.

I do not however justify the officer shooting the man 8 times. I believe that was a little excessive. I do also think that the second officer with the body cam could have helped to contain the situation but helping to constrain the man when seen lunging at the officer.

My opinion is that although other measures could have taken place to avoid the death of this man, that the actions of the police are necessary as he could have potentially posed to be a greater threat. 

]]> 2017-11-06 02:31:27 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/203719276 Anthony https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544650 In the video, a man was wanted for multiple offences. An arrest warrant was given to police to allow them to enter the house and arrest the individual. To their surprise the individual was hiding under laundry and was holding a knife. The wanted offender screamed "kill me" at police and charged towards police, in the process he was shot by a police officer who was cornered in the room and also an officer who was standing outside the room. Approx 8 shots were fired to bring down the offender which he died at the scene. Furthermore prior to the death of the offender,  he had stabbed to officer who was in the room also.

I believe that the police were in the right as they 1) had a warrant to arrest the individual. however to their surprise the offender was charged at them with a knife so police had to use reasonable force to stop the offender. However, i believe 8 shots is excessive perhaps wound him or use a stun gun instead]]> 2017-11-10 00:06:53 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544650 Sara Nguyen https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544718 through the viewing of the video, there are shows the law enforcement was justify due to reasonable action. According to the video, the man was hiding also mentioned by the officers the man had a knife as a weapon. 
Hence, he provoked and threaten the police officers show the law enforcement are able to go in action. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:07:25 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544718 Melissa Crocker https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544815 i believe the actions of the officer involved were justified. As he was posing a threat towards police by lunging at the police officer, with the addition of holding a knife. The man seemed to have intentions of causing harms to police officer. 

However i do question the excessive use of the fire arm by the police officer. There could have been other measures taken to fix the situation other than the use of a fire arm.However the actions taken by police are justifiable. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:08:14 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205544815 https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545023 In this video, we are shown a man resisting arrest who is insisting in causing severe harm to the police officer. 

I believe that in this case, the Officer has reasonable grounds to shoot the offender, as his own life was at risk. This can be shown through the offender attempting to stab the police officer, who was able to quickly fire his weapon, which deescalated the situation. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:09:46 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545023 Lauren Born https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545156 I believe the police officers actions are justified, due to the offender posing a threat to the police officers life

The offender attained a knife and was charging towards the police officer and therefore reasonable and appropriate force was undertaken. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:10:42 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545156 https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545270 I believe that the actions made by the officer were not justified. Even though the man was holding a knife and shouting kill me to the officer, the police could of used a taser gun instead of a gun. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:11:32 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545270 Danica Matsen https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545321 I believe that the actions of the officers were justified, based on the following grounds

The man had three charges held against him, one of which made him a danger to the community. When the officers presented the warrant he was non compliant and violent (stabbing with a knife). 
The officers had the power to confiscate the knife (under section 24 of LEPRA) however this was not viable due the aggression of the attack. Therefore leading to the man being defensively shot. 
From the beginning, the man was not complying with the arrest, he could have fled the scene at any time, allowing the officers to act in the justifiable and accountable matter they did.]]> 2017-11-10 00:12:02 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545321 Nadine https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545535 Honestly, i feel conflicted. I do agree with the officers taking action and shooting the offender however i do believe they could have handled it better.
There was an obvious threat and its clear to see that the offender had intentionally tried to hurt the officers which this is where the justification comes in.
However, i seriously believe that the amount of times they had shot him was overboard and i believe that they could've tried to shoot him elsewhere. Maybe i'm thinking too much into it and because i have never been in that situation so i would never fully understand but i think that it could've been handled a little better. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:13:15 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545535 Leni https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545575 The actions in which the officer chose to utilise in the following video were deemed reasonable, foreseeing the suspect was resisting arrest, and launched at the officer in an attempt to cause severe harm. 

However, the  number of bullets discharged is quite questionable.

]]> 2017-11-10 00:13:32 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545575 Xena Phan https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545588 I believe that the actions of the officers were reasonable under the grounds that the suspect has three previous charges. 

The man was seen launching at an officer, making an attempt to do harm. Therefore, justifying the shot, however, I do believe 8 shots were excessive and were not necessary. ]]> 2017-11-10 00:13:35 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545588 I believe that officers made the right decision as the suspect already had 3 charges against him, and was danger for the community https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545711 2017-11-10 00:14:22 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545711 https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545753 The man was clearly dangerous and if he is willing to be so violent with police officers, it shows that he would most likely be more than willing to do so toward an everyday person. They did not need to shoot the amount of times they did as they are aware that one shot to the right spot can kill the person. 

]]> 2017-11-10 00:14:35 UTC https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205545753 Max Clarke https://padlet.com/g_sims/discussions/wish/205546311  
The following video depicts a known convicted sex offender being Oklahoma police after the offender lunges out at these officers. Through the examining of this video it has become evident that the shooting of this assailant is justified through the assessment of American legislation. 

On October 30, 2017, Oklahoma police officers fatally shot a Phillip Joel Trammel after the suspect was confronted due to outstanding offences; forgery, failure to pay bills and failing to register as a sex offender (New York Post, 2017). Upon confrontation, the individual acted out in response to the police, ultimately charging at police officers where upon he was shot dead. The reason as to why this shooting is justified is because it acts in compliance with the use of lethal force amendment within the United States; with the officer feeling that serious harm may be caused to himself or others from this charging individual (Amnesty International, 2015). 

In conclusion, due to the risk associated with the suspect, the police officer who shot said individual has his actions justified via the use of lethal force amendment, and as such remains well within their legal limitations.

http://nypost.com/video/wanted-man-jumps-out-of-a-pile-of-laundry-stabs-cop-is-shot-dead/

https://www.amnestyusa.org/reports/deadly-force-police-use-of-lethal-force-in-the-united-states/
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