Rodriguez by https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r Achievement of Desire en-us 2022-01-26 23:17:27 UTC 2022-01-27 01:19:30 UTC hello@padlet.com Quote https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014705668 "The primary reason for my success in the classroom was that I couldn't forget that schooling was changing me, and separating me from the life I had enjoyed before becoming a student." (240) ]]> 2022-01-26 23:38:22 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014705668 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014706199 "They too learn by imitation. They develop the skill of memory long before they become truly critical thinkers. And when they read Plato for the first several times, it is with awe rather than a deep comprehension." (251)]]> 2022-01-26 23:39:04 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014706199 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014706489
  • “There never seemed enough time in the day to learn--to memorize– all that I wanted to know” (Rodriguez, 3).

    • ]]>     2022-01-26 23:39:30 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014706489     Quote https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014707720 "Always successful. Always unconfident.
     Exhilerated by my progress. Yet sad. Anxious and eager to learn-the prized student. Too ambitious, too eager -an imitative and unoriginal pupil." (240)
    ]]>     2022-01-26 23:41:01 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014707720     https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014707849 “Here is a child haunted by the knowledge that one chooses to be a student” (Rodriguez, page 242)

    ]]>     2022-01-26 23:41:11 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014707849     danby1 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014708273 It was hard to find a picture where he looks happy.]]> 2022-01-26 23:41:46 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014708273 Quote https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014708608 "And to evade nostalgia for the life he has lost, he concentrates on the benefits education will give him". (page 242)]]> 2022-01-26 23:42:11 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014708608 "Lavish emotions texture home life. Then at school, the instruction is to use reason primarily." p.242. https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014709270 2022-01-26 23:43:01 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014709270 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014711247 "The scholarship boy pleases most when he is young. To teachers, he offers great satisfaction; his success is their proudest achievement." (p. 249)]]> 2022-01-26 23:44:59 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014711247 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014712299 "But he would not be so bad - nor would he become so successful - if he did not accurately perceive that the truer synonym for "education" is not "learning" but "imitation." And that education is mainly a long, unglamorous, and even demeaning process of acquiring skills and habits of mind-a nurturing never natural to the persons we were once, before first entering the classroom." (251)]]> 2022-01-26 23:46:13 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014712299 "For Romantics, this doesn't make working-class life chil- dish. Rather, it becomes challenging just because it is an adult way of life" (242) https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014712776 2022-01-26 23:46:51 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014712776 danby1 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014713762 What else can we say about his relations with his parents?

    And what exactly makes him different from his siblings?]]>     2022-01-26 23:48:07 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014713762     https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014714785 Is there a way to balance your home life and education so that you feel included in both areas? Do you have to lose one in order to succeed in the other?]]> 2022-01-26 23:49:23 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014714785 The scholarship boy reaches a different conclusion. He cannot afford to admire his parents. (How could he and still pursue such a contrary life?) He permits himself embarrassment at their lack of education (242) https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014714863 2022-01-26 23:49:28 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014714863 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014718490 why is he so negative on his outlook when it comes to his childhood as well as his view on his family. ]]> 2022-01-26 23:53:27 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014718490 tamikanastali1028 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014721048 Only moderately
     intelligent, I was highly ambitious, eager, desperate for the goal of becoming "educated" (240)
    ]]>     2022-01-26 23:56:26 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014721048     Thoughts https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722275 Rodriguez has two worlds he travels between on a daily basis. The differences between his school life and home life are more drastic than the differences in the lives of students with an American family who speaks English as their first language. I wonder if these differences are exacerbated the more your family's norms differ from the norms taught in the school you attend?]]> 2022-01-26 23:58:01 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722275 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722521 can you find a way to open both parts of your separate lives in a meaningful and clearly less damaging form. that does not have long term effect on your outlook through the phases of your life. ]]> 2022-01-26 23:58:20 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722521 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722971 HE IS A NERD WHO LOVES BOOKS]]> 2022-01-26 23:58:52 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014722971 danby1 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014723030 Does RR ever complain about his education?]]> 2022-01-26 23:58:56 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014723030 Change https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014729640 Whether it's the change of authority figures (parents v. teachers) or something else, the conformity that Rodriguez is both personally and socially pressured into is centered around the want to distance himself from his culture/parents (shame?) and to broaden his knowledge by becoming engrossed in books and knowledge.]]> 2022-01-27 00:06:34 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014729640 Imitation and Education danby1 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014806940 Is imitation so bad?  While this paragraph sounds kind of brutal, in a lot of ways it's usefully true.  Even when I wrote a dissertation as a grad student, I was still learning how to do a certain kind of writing, which means I started by imitating other academic writing.  A lot of what I end up teaching you all in this class is how to write in an academic genre.   I sincerely hope you do interesting things with it, but sure, the element of imitation is there. This seems like something where Socrates says yeah, of course, what else could education be, and Freire gets unhappy.]]> 2022-01-27 01:13:52 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014806940 Authority danby1 https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014809373 One thing we have usefully brought out is that there are relations of authority in both home and school. That is also a way to open to both Plato and Freire.]]> 2022-01-27 01:15:53 UTC https://padlet.com/danby1/lhpi0s9r6j3g896r/wish/2014809373