https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np In both the Demosthenes biography and the Icarus and Daedalus myth, the main characters exhibit determination in pursuit of their goals. Did determination help both main characters reach their goals, or did it lead them to tragedy? Explain whether determination helped or hurt the two main characters. Use details from the passages to support your group response. en-us 2017-04-06 13:10:35 UTC 2017-04-06 16:50:01 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Brightnessdown.png https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139819 Determination was shown in both of the two characters but it wasn't very successful in both of them. Demosthenes was very determined and he managed to achieve his goals. He worked hard and took things slow, he made sure that not only was he practicing but made sure that he was practicing the right way. Icarus was determined but he didn't take his time to learn and he was reckless. He rushed into things thus causing him to fall. So even though he was determined, he still failed.]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139819 20232083 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139829 In both the Demosthenes and biography and the Icarus and Daedalus myth, determination did different things to the main characters. For Demosthenes, his determination led him to his goal. Instead of giving up on his dreams like many other people would have, he did almost everything he could to push him towards his goal. For example, he built himself an underground room so he could]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139829 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139844 In both Demosthenes biography and the Icarus and Daedalus myth, the main characters exibit determination and pursuit of there goals. Determination helped them but led to tradgety.  Demothenes ended up going from poor and losing his father to a wealthy lawyer all because he was determined to be one. But Icarus didn't listen in that story, he didn't listen to his father so he went to close to the sun, the wax melted and he fell into the ocean and died. That was a tradgety.]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139844 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139848 Determination in both the biography Demostenes and myth of Icarus and Daedalus helped and hurt the characters. In Demostenes, the determination helped him. It helped him work through the hard times and made him one of the most famous orators. However in ]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139848 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139850 Determination was a very big role in both of these stories. In "Demosthenes" by John Haaren, the main character Demosthenes did use determination to reach his goal.  For example, he shaved half his head so he would be embarresed to leave his home. Therefore, he stayed home and worked on becoming better non-stop. Also,  in the story about Icarus, Icarus showed determination but not to help him get through to his goals. His goals were set and reached by his dad. His determination for example was when he was determined to reach high. He reached high while flying and his feathers were burned by the sun. His dad told him not to but he was determined to reach the sun. He then reached the level and he fell, then drowned so he died. Therefore, one story showed determination to reach goals and one didn't.]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139850 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139853 Determination helped and hurt the 2 main characters in both text. It hurt Icarus when he fell into the water and drowned. It helped Demosthenes when he wanted to be a lawyer.]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139853 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139858 2017-04-06 13:51:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139858 20232015 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139866 Both Demosthenes and Icarus shows determination throughout both stories.  For example, in Demosthenes he had determination to become a public speaker and lawyer. ]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:42 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139866 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139874 Both stories showed determination, but with different outcomes. In Demosthenes his determination lead his to his goal of becoming a lawyer and great public speaker. Although Icarus was to eager leading himself to his death.]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:45 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139874 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139941 In both myths about Demosthenes and Icarus, determination played roll. Demosthenes was determined to become a public speaker, and it resulted in good. Icarus was determined to escape by flying but it resulted ]]> 2017-04-06 13:51:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165139941 20232096 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165140010 Both Demosthenes and Icarus had determination, but they both used it in different ways. First, Demosthenes was determined to become a speaker and faced many obstacles, but he was patient and overcame his obstacles one by one without making mistakes out of eagerness. Unlike Demosthenes, Icarus made mistakes out of eagerness to escape. In conclusion, they were both determined but, Icarus' ended with tragedy because of his carless behavior. ]]> 2017-04-06 13:52:08 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165140010 20232031 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165140393 Although determination is shown in both myths it affected the outcomes of each character in a different way. For example, in Demosthenes took his determination and listened to the rules and practiced while Iracus took his determination and used it for joy and did not listen.]]> 2017-04-06 13:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/l1kybso069np/wish/165140393