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EDP3501 SEC2 by DrJoe https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2 Q&A flipped classroom en-us 2015-11-20 06:52:19 UTC 2025-11-22 02:12:58 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f577.png Q1 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625906385 Nur Husninawati binti Hamzani
(1721390)

How do i determine what level of bloom taxonomy that i need to follow in constructing questions. Is it based on topics like; (easy topic- high level questions , hard topic- low level questions) or it depends on teacher as long as the percentage of low and high level questions are the same (50%- low level 50%-high level)

answer:
There is no specific hard formula. As a rule of thumb, it is sometimes based on 40%low order, 30% medium and 30% high order. but anyway, depends also on the students. if majority students are weak, then let majority of questions easy to medium difficult. So it depends on the students and the teacher needs to make the most wise decision]]> 2020-06-14 13:34:51 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625906385 Q2 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625920849 Wan Nur Fatin Nadiah Bt Mohd Rosly (1724122)
Siti Noramira Bt Mohamad Razali (1729636)

How to ensure that the test is effective for both poor students and good students since they are being tested on the same question papers?

answer:
All exams have a set of questions that will cater for various level of students (weak, medium and good). Based on my answers to Q1 question - thus a portion of questions are easy (to give fairness to the weak students), another portion of questions are real difficult and challenging - catering for the very good students, and the rest are for average/medium students. Thus in this way, only those students who have studied and prepare for the exam will have more chance to do well.

]]> 2020-06-14 13:49:57 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625920849 Q4 shranrsha https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625936676 Aini Najihah Bt Adnan (1715084)

Nurshahira Narisha Bt Mohd Rusdi (1712116)

Does test or assessment in class need to encompass all content domains written in general? Also, it need to be aligned with the National Curriculum right?

answer:
thereotically, it does. The test needs to cover the whole syllabus, BUT in reality/practice only the most important topics are covered in the exam (while less important is done formatively in class- HW, group work, etc).
Yes - all content covered needs to be aligned : meaning what was taught needs to be assessed. (as evidence that students really learnt the LO).

]]> 2020-06-14 14:07:56 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625936676 Q7 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625946169 1. NURUL AIN BINTI SANI
(1724532)
2. NUR ALIFFA ASZREEN BINTI MOHD LATIF
(1723540)

If there are a few special needs students in a class, will TOS able to measure their level of understanding like the other students since teachers might need more questions to test them or maybe it will be a special case?

answer:
for special needs students, since generally we can classify them as being 'disadvantaged' or in the 'weaker' group - then we need to focus questions that are 'easy' for them. Thus eventhough TOS cater for 3 difficulty areas (easy-medium-hard); this also apply to Special Needs students. Should not be a problem for the teacher.]]> 2020-06-14 14:18:09 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625946169 Q17 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625979634 Najeeha Binti Abdullah (1715012)
Aimi Nur Dalila Binti Mohammad Khairi (1725590)

How to make sure that the TOS is efficient enough to measure student understanding according to the bloom taxonomy?

answer:
TOS is merely a BLUEPRINT (just like a blueprint to build a house or a car). It is a systematic guide for teachers to better plan, decide, and create sets of questions based on TOPICS and on Learning Outcomes. And in TOS all these components are already in place. So it is thus up to the CREATIVITY and Competent teachers to BUILD and WRITE good, quality questions to achieve efficiency.
"how to do this - next week task"!]]> 2020-06-14 14:53:17 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/625979634 Q10 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626030445 Nur Hayati Bt Ismail (1724282)
Nor Amilia bt Kamaruddin (1728456)

How does this table of specification effects on evaluation of students performance in a subject?
answer:
Actually, this TOS do NOT effect or impact on the students. TOS is only a BLUEPRINT for building a test (with a set of questions).
TOS helps a teacher DECIDE types of questions, topics covered, and level of the difficulty of the questions in the test itself. So if a teacher follow a good TOS, then the questions/test itself will be a good test. Performances of students are different (if they are good, then they will do well, and vice versa):not tied up directly with TOS. hope this is clear.]]> 2020-06-14 15:42:46 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626030445 Q8 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626063563 Nurul Izzah Binti Abd Razak
(1728326)
Nur Hamizah Bt Muhammad
(1723506)

How table of Specification help teachers in making valid and reliable questions?
answer:
remember topic 'validity'?
since in TOS you have all the elements: topics covered, subtopics, hours taught, weightage (how important the topics are), plus number of questions per each topics; and also level of difficulty of these questions. So all these leads to the questions in any test are 'systematically' aligned to the LO and to Instruction (recall the definition that say "you MEASURE the things-topics-content- that you are supposed to measure)? surely this is what is achieved when you have TOS.
TOS = Content Validity.]]> 2020-06-14 16:14:00 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626063563 Q15 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626068769 NORAMIRAH BINTI HAIRUDIN (1725070)
NUR AIMI NADIAH BINTI ZAMRI (1721146)

Regarding the subtopics, is it possible if the hardest topic we put the highest credit hours and HOT question more than LOT question as we want to test the students?
answer:
A BIG YES!
actually the hours allocated is DECIDED by the teacher way before the TOS is done. surely the teachers will know which topic is important/challenging/hard as compared to topics that are easy and simple/short.
Remember: usually, introduction topic is only 1 day being taught. While the tougher topic , say Theories and Process are challenging topics and need about a week to cover/finish.]]> 2020-06-14 16:18:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626068769 Q18 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626082488 Amirah Husna bt Mohd Jamal (1723560)
Nur Atiah Naiemah bt Mohd Ali (1725800)

Does TOS can provide response content and construct validity and how it works?
answer:
TOS does prove/show evidence of CONTENT VALIDITY (but NOT Construct Validity).

Please read my responses/answers to Q8 and Q10 questions. The arguments & explanations are all there.
Remember: validity means: measuring and assessing "content" that we are indeed supposed to measure. ]]> 2020-06-14 16:31:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626082488 Q11 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626522678 Husnul Aina binti Mohd Shahnizam (1727664)
Nur Lyana Aqilah binti Ahmad Nasir (1723454)
How TOS help students in learning ?
Answer:
TOS DO NOT engage/relate/associate with STUDENTS DIRECTLY.
TOS IS A TOOL FOR TEACHERS to help teachers BUILD EXAMS/TEST.
Students do not even get to see a TOS.
only connection is this:-
If teacher build GOOD TOS, then the TEST should be a good test ( with good quality questions). Then after students took the test (that was built by the teacher who used a TOS), then insyaALLAh the RESULTS of the students should also be good (means results of test should be reliable and valid).
that's the cycle of assessment.
[Teacher - TOS-TEST- Student took test- results - ]]]> 2020-06-15 01:14:29 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626522678 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626531610 Q3
HUDA FADZLINA 1727938
AZRA ZULAIKA 1726876
Why providing clues to help poor students considered as contaminated. As a teacher, we should consider the items or tasks to be place fairly right, for both good and poor students?

answer:
am not sure what exactly you mean by "providing clues to weak students...?"
But good tests with good quality questions SHOULD NOT have any hidden clues. We will discuss this more detail in next week class topic (types of test items). Should be more interesting. and if you need more clarification, do text me WA.]]> 2020-06-15 01:28:31 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626531610 IE1 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626549784 Faris Mukhlis bin Rizal 1729737
Muhammad Firdaus bin Abd Halim @ Abu Hassan 1719697

Does table of specifications is solely for traditional assessment? Why?
answer:
TOS is used in EDUCATION. it is merely a TOOL. Do not confuse with student's performances, etc. Please REFER to ALL my other responses here to gain a much better understanding.
It sole purpose is to assist and help teacher build GOOD QUALITY and RELEVANT test that is both reliable and valid.
PLEase also refer to my responses/answers regarding TOS=Evidence of CONTENT VALIDITY]]> 2020-06-15 01:54:58 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626549784 IE4 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626569708 IZZAT BIN HAMZAH 1723667
MOHD NORTAUFIQ BIN KATEK 1710145
What will happen to the student's understanding, if the teacher does not follow the TOS during completing the syllabus of the subject?
answer:
AGAIN I REPEAT. TOS IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO STUDENTS!!
TOS only HELP TEACHER BUILD a good test.
ANALOGY:
if PROTON wants to build a new engine/car, they must use a new ENGINE BLUeprint. So engineers build the engine/car FOLLOW EXACTLY to the engine blueprint. NOW YOU ANSWER me:
(i)DOES any driver driving the new car with the new engine AFFECTED/influenced BY THE BLUEPRINT OR
(ii)by the skills/knowledge/ability of the driver and how driver was taught?!!]]> 2020-06-15 02:21:11 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626569708 Q6 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626570571 HABIBAH ABU HANIFAH 1714984
NURSYAKIRAH BINTI AHMAD 1725918
How to decide correct hours taught for each topic and Why question items must calculate based on hours taught?
answer:
qood question-
TOS do not dictate how you choose the hours of the subtopic. TEACHER decide based on the reality in school. Teacher is the final decision maker and it surely takes into account the syllabus, school calendar year, school situation at the time. So here i emphasis- TOS do NOT decide the hours, Teachers DECIDE. (i been saying this in other response here).
You can also use # OF PERIOD TAUGHT (class period) if you do not want to use HOURS.]]> 2020-06-15 02:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626570571 Q-16 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626574548 NUR ADLINA BINTI MUHAMMAD NAZRI (1728376)
NOR ELY ILIYANA BINTI ABDULLAH (1728516)

What is the difference between one-way table of specification and two-way table of specification?

answer:
of all the questions posed here, yours is the most simple, direct. actually i am smiling now. :)
2 way TOS is like ALL TOS you all submitted.
1 way TOS is IF I ASKED FOR ONLY ONE (1) ROW - or if i ask only for 1 subtopic.
(not 5 rows/5 subtopics)
Hope you understand now :)]]> 2020-06-15 02:27:55 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626574548 Q1 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626679449 SITI FATHIMAH BINTI HAJI ZAINAL
1726456
Question:
TOS is for teaching planning right? and what if the teacher can’t completed the teaching as planned, will it be dragged to the next session? And does it will affect credit hours of teaching and delayed the next topic?
answer:
TOS is just a TOOL to help teachers BUILD TEST (that's all- not for planning lesson!)
Nothing to do with real student performances.
If teacher can't finish the syllabus, then topics NOT COVERED CANNOT LA be put in the TEST!
hope you understand by now.
TOS do not USE CREDIT HOURS. The hours are only hours spend to teach the subtopic.]]> 2020-06-15 05:07:05 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626679449 Q14 izzahshahruddin https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626680446 Nur Ainani binti Mohd Nor (1724024)
Nurul Izzah binti Shahruddin (1720164)
Is TOS also applicable for standardized exam like SPM? As the credit hours decided by teachers, it may differ.
answer:
Yes , ALL EXAMS & TEST can use TOS as a tool to help test makers create/build exam. Not just in schools, anywhere that EXAMS are used. (only thing in reality, some people do not want to use - they are stubborn).
Again- TOS has nothing to do with CREDIT HRS. I never mention credit hrs. I only say - amount of time needed to TEACH the subtopic. This all up to the individual teachers (not TOS)!]]> 2020-06-15 05:08:09 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626680446 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626726203 Nurhazirah Mohd Zamri (1729166)
Lyana bt Mohd Fadzil (1622038)
Nur Hazimah binti Mohd shafee (1711122)
Question:
Is it relevant for teachers to give the test during this MCO period as the classes are conducted through online learning and how far it will help the teachers?
answer:
If during MCO as of now, there are NO FINAL EXAM ; then there will be no TOS (since no final exam whatsoever). But if there are other assessment types/methods used - open book exam or take home exam, then the TOS will be different from what you did in my assignment. ]]> 2020-06-15 05:50:09 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626726203 amirulhakimbahrim98 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626828195 Amirulhakim Bin Bahrim 1714837
Mansor Alansori Bin Mohd Amin 1718063
Question:
What is the suitable/ exact time for the teacher to form T.O.S ? At the beginning in their lesson plan or when the exam is around the corner.
answer:
in the era of "assessment driven instruction"; it is recommended that teacher begins to THINK about assessment early in the year and also early in the semester. Having ideas or plans on how to assess students later on, will help GUIDE teacher to plan lessons/instructions accordingly - guided by elements of the TOS. So answer is yes, beginning is good; not at the end.]]> 2020-06-15 07:07:56 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626828195 Q5 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626878452 Aishah binti Taib
1710508
Wan Nur Hani Aqilah Binti Wan Adnan
1717660
How TOS can ensure that a test or assessment measure the content and thinking skills that the test intended to measure?
answer:
PHEW. i wished you gals READ all the questions posed by your classmates and READ my responses.
let me give you an example:
1) You taught topic of Reliability & validity for 1 month.
2) at end of month, there is a monthly test.
3) how to do the test? whats in your mind? surely in your mind :
what kind of questions to be asked? what form of questions? how many questions? how difficult the questions will be? Which topic should be more focused, etc etc,. RIGHT?
4) please PONDER and please THINK carefully. SURELY to get the answers to the #3 above, one SURE and SUITABLE method will be the USE OF TOS. Hope u get it :)]]> 2020-06-15 07:40:37 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/626878452 IE 3 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/627487459 Muhammad Haziq B Muhammad Najib (1715773)
Soufiana Salim DRAME (1428021)
Question:
What are the characteristics of a good TOS?
answer:
Having ALL the elements and components that I have already demonstrated to you in this assignment;
calculating the weights and total items correctly and accurately (and ROUNDING OFF any decimal points ), to get the correct overall total items for the said test.
1. topics/subtopics to be covered
2. determining weights - more difficult topics will eventually have more questions (weightage will ENSURE this happen at the last column)
3. number of questions per topic per difficulty level (LOT&HOT)

**some of you still confuse about rounding off.
**you do not try to get the total item in the last column and work backwords - this is WRONG.]]> 2020-06-15 14:56:10 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/627487459 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/628314829 Q9
1. Nurul Mahfuzah Binti Mohd Shafe'e 1722988
2. Siti Norain Najihah Binti Mohamad
176870
Q: Does TOS is also assist teachers to build and determine questions accurately for students based on paricular structure of questions such as essay, subjective or objective?
answer:
TOS only helps to determine number of questions, level of difficulty and which topics are more important. that's it.
The next topic on Selected Response & Constructed Response will focus on HOW TO BUILD the questions itself (plus good recommended guidelines).]]> 2020-06-16 04:51:19 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/628314829 Q1 i_ninawati https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/632263534 1. Nur Husninawati binti Hamzani (1721390)
2. Siti fathimah hj Zainal (1726456)
Question:
Since both selected and constructed-response format test questions need proper planning and decision making, may i know your opinion about the best duration for teachers or lecturers to prepare the exam questions so that the questions will be relevant and perfect for students. Does this mean educators need to plan for the exam questions earlier like before the semester starts so that the LO's fit the exam/ test questions well? thank you sir.
answer:
sequence of events:
1) teach 2) plan to do a text/exam 3) build a TOS
4) taking all the number of items/questions from TOS, then we begin to sit down and WRITE UP each of the questions (following the TOS).
YES, it is best, preferable to have an idea of what kind of test questions you want to make/ask way before the class start. This is the recommended practice (even though most people DO NOT follow it).
Remember: building of individual test questions CAME from the last column from the TOS.]]> 2020-06-18 14:40:35 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/632263534 Q11 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/633229876

Husnul Aina binti Mohd Shahnizam (1727664)
Nur Lyana Aqilah binti Ahmad Nasir (1723454)

As we know, most students and teachers often say in mcq there are many "tricky" questions. So how about the "tricky" question in mcq? Does it have to exist?
answer:
good question.
in assessment - there should not be any 'trick' question. The purpose of assessment is to help student improve and at the same time show/obtain where students stand in terms of their performance. so by 'tricking' student into getting a question wrong is actually not 'ethically' correct.

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Nurshahira Narisha Bt Mohd Rusdi (1712116)

Q: Scorer reliability is very important in the case of compositions and essay tests. How to make sure we're providing essay questions with high-test scorer reliability?
Q: Is it recommended to put more HOTS question in essay question? Why?

answer:
yes, it is commonly accepted in the area of assessment:

1) easier, low order thinking skills are for SELECTED response items (T/F, matching and MCQ).
While:
2) more difficult and more challenging questions that require Higher order thinking skills are the domain of Constructed response type (Fill in the blanks & Essays).

To have high reliability, the questions need to FOLLOW the recommended guidelines of GOOD ESSAY WRITING
(look at the CHECKLIST i have provided in the attached resource)

]]> 2020-06-20 04:45:30 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634192748 Q2 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634297068 Siti Noramira Bt Mohamad Razali (1729636)
Wan Nur Fatin Nadiah Bt Mohd Rosly (1724122)

What are actually the differences between discuss, describe and explain in essay questions? Since most of the essay questions would use these words to indicate the task that students should perform.

answer:
These are called "action verbs".
I shall provide you with a list of action verbs you can use. then you need to decide which action verb is at which level in BLOOM's Taxonomy.

it seems (logically) that the 3 words discuss, describe and explain (generally) could mean the same. But in my opinion it is at the level of UNDERSTANDING /APPLICATION in Bloom's.
Since i am not an english expert to make the detailed distinctions between the 3 words - lets assume these 3 words are in the same category as Bloom level as stated above. Words that are more higher than them could include 'justify' speculate, argue, demonstrate, and hypothesize', etc.
**PLS REFER TO THE TABLE I UPLOADED HERE

]]> 2020-06-20 10:10:09 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634297068 Action Verbs & Blooms Level of reasoning/thinking drjoe https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634404724 This is an example of the OLDER version of BLoom (highest level is EVALUATE)]]> 2020-06-20 14:31:01 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634404724 New Blooms Taxonomy drjoe https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634406587 level synthesis is taken out, and the highest level is CREATE. EVALUATE goes down 1 level.]]> 2020-06-20 14:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634406587 Q12 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634794761 IZZAH HAYATI BINTI ISHAK
1725344
NURUL 'ALIA BINTI MOHD ZAWAWI 1720552

In the video, Dan Hickey said that "constructed response items can provide misleading evidence that can both overstate and understate what students know". Why?
answer:
a few possible reasons (not exhaustive ok?)
overstate: students can GUESS, student can CHEAT, etc
understate: students know BUT weak in writing; cultural differences - an asian in an American university - culture shock]]> 2020-06-21 06:15:14 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634794761 IE4 nortaufiq22698 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634830283 MOHD NORTAUFIQ BIN KATEK 1710145
IZZAT BIN HAMZAH 1723667

In MCQ question, the total of answer must be balance or not? . For example, in 40 questions the answer.. A-10 B-10 C-10 D - 10.
answer: there's is NO FIX rule regarding this.
Some say it is ok to be EQUAL distributions. Again, it is up to the individual Test Builder. But in my opinion, as long as it is fairly distributed is ok]]> 2020-06-21 07:17:02 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/634830283 Q3 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635053897 HUDA FADZLINA BT ABU NAIM (1727938)
AZRA ZULAIKA BT MOHD KAMAL (1726876)

Some teachers did not follow the recommended guideline or having difficulties to follow because of different format in certain subject. Does this act affected the reliability and validity of the question?.
answer:
it could.
depends.
if the significant guideline is NOT FOLLOWED, then it may affect how students answer and be biased towards the students - resulting not valid results/scores.]]> 2020-06-21 14:04:30 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635053897 amirulhakimbahrim98 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635106600 IE2

Amirulhakim Bin Bahrim (1714837)
Mansor Alansori Bin Mohd Amin (1718063)
Question:
Is it possible if we create question which related to each sections in the test paper . For example, the students need to find the answer in section A which will help them to answer the question in the other sections (B & C). Would it be fair ?
answer:
Try to AVOID this from happening - not easy though, because in any given tests, the questions are usually many.
In other words, we try not to give "unnecessary CLUES" to students based on previous questions. That is why , TOS is more relevant and useful in trying to minimize this problem.]]> 2020-06-21 15:28:52 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635106600 Q8 izzahra18 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635108719 NURUL IZZAH BT ABD RAZAK (1728326)
NUR HAMIZAH BT MUHAMMAD (1723506)

Nowadays most of high order thinking (HOTS) question in mcq start by describing an event or a situation before asking the main question. Is it irrelevant to do that?
answer:
do you mean RELEVANT?
yes it is.
because for a HOT question, there MUST BE DEEP THINKING taking place in the brain/mind of the student answering the question.
If i were to ask you this LOT Question :
1) Name the capital of Malaysia .(do you honestly think you going to USE much of your brain to think?)
what if i give you a NEWS PAPER HEADLINE and then i ask you this:
2) Based on this news headline, JUSTIFY why the author tries to IMPLICATE the judge of being a LIAR!?
(surely you must use lots of your thinking -analysying-evaluating ability CORRECT??)]]> 2020-06-21 15:32:57 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635108719 Q1 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635225038 SITI FATHIMAH BINTI HAJI ZAINAL (1726456)

There is a possibility (or once happened) that some of essay questions requires students to give facts (of something) rather than giving opinion. What is your thoughts?
Does the question is consider as challenging or applying High Order Thinking skills?
answer:
An essay can ask a spectrum of things - from the most easiest like facts , to the most complex, like 'create'. But if the essay ONLY ASKS FACTS, then it is not considered a good essay following the guideline.
Remember - giving opinion is also not too good (follow guideline). We want our students to use their thinking/reasoning ability. that's all about HOT & Essay.
WANT YOU ALL TO USE REASONING SKILLS ]]> 2020-06-21 18:27:56 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635225038 Q7 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635475970 1. NURUL AIN BINTI SANI
(1724532)
2. NUR ALIFFA ASZREEN BINTI MOHD LATIF
(1723540)
Question:
It was mentioned that it is not recommended to use the negative stems. However, there are some cases that teachers are allowed to use it but it did not explain further.
When and why can teachers use negative stems?
answer:
IF you see lecturers STILL doing it, then there are 2 reasons:
1. They are not conversant (knowledgable) in the field of educational assessment,
2. They just like to do that type of questions (negative Stem) - a bit annoying actually, specially if there too many of such items.
Try go check the notes or any books: it clearly says:
"NOT RECOMMENDED'
you can if you are stubborn to do it, but it is not a sin. But if you just have 1 or 2 in a 20 MCQ test, then it is a ok.]]> 2020-06-22 01:27:18 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635475970 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635564678 Q9
1. Nurul Mahfuzah Binti Mohd Shafe'e 1722988
2. Siti Norain Najihah Binti Mohamad
176870

Q: Most of the assessments are reliable to test the level of IQ and level of understanding among students. but nowadays, oral assessment was being introduced to provide holistic students in future. The question is how far an oral assessment is reliable to measure the skills among student and is there any specific guideline that should to follow?
answer:
interesting -
in my opinion, oral test is an alternative to the other traditional, already existing tests we currently have. I am for it.
To test skills- we need MORE THAN ORAL - Students need to DEMONSTRATE they have the skills in "a practical demonstration test" too. So we should have both of the above, then definitely it be valid and reliable. (but problem is - is it practical ?)]]> 2020-06-22 03:40:33 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635564678 Q18 atiahnaiemah1712 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635566001 Amirah Husna bt Mohd Jamal (1723560)
Nur Atiah Naiemah bt Mohd Ali (1725800)

In malaysia for example spm exam, usually mcq question for many subjects keep repeating the same question and answers. Sometimes by practicing past year question help students to score with full marks. So there’s student dont really understand the subject but they can answer it correctly by practicing past year question. While mcq question known to measure students understanding, but in this case, how it is proven? What is your opinion about this matter?
answer:
YES totally in agreement.
if i am in the position of power (or minister of education); i shall REVAMP all Malaysian Standardized Examinations.
A THOROUGH review of all exams plus all the current practices.
What do to? NoT many people in the high position is aware or realise this. and if indeed they know, they (may) don't care.]]> 2020-06-22 03:42:46 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635566001 Q6 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635586030 HABIBAH ABU HANIFAH 1714984
NURSYAKIRAH BINTI AHMAD 1725918

a) can the student win an argument against the teacher if the questions confusing them and get free marks?
answer:
wow, not easy for me to answer. If the student is 100% confident and also indeed the question is BAD, then the student has a high probability of winning against the teacher.
But unfortunately in out 'malay culture', seldom we see this happening.

b) how can open book test be relevant as a test?
answer:
It can -
1) as long as ALL questions are indeed at the HOT level.
2) No questions at all at the LOT level.
(remember - open book is NOT FOR students to show they are good at memorization)]]> 2020-06-22 04:13:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635586030 Q-16 adlina2198 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635642384 NUR ADLINA BINTI MUHAMMAD NAZRI 1728376
NOR ELY ILIYANA BINTI ABDULLAH 1728516

As a future teacher of Islamic education, we are aware that most questions about Islamic education especially in the most important examination like SPM do not follow the guidelines we have learned and understand through the notes and explanations given by sir. So is it possible for us to convert the existing format to a format that follow the guidelines that we have learned?
answer:
as long as the teachers/lecturers who prepare and build those spm questions do not change (under the LPM), then things wont change.
my only advise is when you teaching in class - just DO THE CORRECT things. you be ok.
for students to prepare for SPM - you can just show the FORMAT of SPM , that's it.]]> 2020-06-22 05:27:18 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635642384 Q15 aiminadiahzamri98 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635958570 NORAMIRAH BINTI HAIRUDIN (1725070)
NUR AIMI NADIAH BINTI ZAMRI (1721146)

In essay question, some teachers didn't describe on how much to write and they told the students to give answers based on marks provided for each question. Is it possible for the teachers to make such that questions?
answer:
if you look at the notes on essay writing- it is recommended to state amount of words or how many pages to write. This will help the student alot.
If you notice, i always say in my assignments:
-in one sentence; in one paragraph. So it will assist students and not make students stress.
Teachers/lecturers who do not practice these, we can conclude they are not well trained (yet) in the assessment guidelines.
The process of training new lecturers ( plus those who not in the know) is an ongoing process till now.]]> 2020-06-22 10:39:05 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/635958570 Q14 izzahshahruddin https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636028432 Nur Ainani binti Mohd Nor (1724024)
Nurul Izzah binti Shahruddin (1720164)

- Based on the guideline to construct the question especially for essay, do the teachers need to have a rubric to examine the answer?
answer:
yes, they do need to have one.
for essay it is usually an answer scheme.
do check my notes or other resources on "essay scoring scheme". you can see many examples/samples on essay scoring scheme/scoring rubrics.

]]> 2020-06-22 11:56:20 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636028432 Q10 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636081240 Nor Amilia bt Kamaruddin (1728456)
Nur Hayati bt Ismail
(1724282)

Q : Some teachers intentionally give clue for answer especially in MCQ test in order to helps student with poor understanding. But this is contrary with the guidelines. What do you think with this action? It is permissible?
answer:
hmm.. kinda tough call to answer:
it all depends on the conscience of the teacher. yes you do need to adhere and follow the guidelines, true.
BUT, there are times -humans being human - they tend to have the urge or compassion to assist their weak students. (definitely not fair to others).]]> 2020-06-22 12:47:01 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636081240 Q13 lyanafadzil97 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636231026
Nurhazirah Mohd Zamri (1729166)
Lyana bt Mohd Fadzil (1622038)
Nur Hazimah binti Mohd shafee (1711122)

Q1- In the video, the man talks about the double concept for selected response generally. Can you elaborate more?

answer:
Selected response : can only ASK FACTUAL type of content - CANNOT able to show evidences of student's deep thinking ability as in BLoom's (analyses, evaluate and create);

YET at the same time - Selected Response CAN COVER THE WHOLE SYLLABUS because for an exam consisting of only MCQ - the exam can have as much as 100 MCQ , correct? (while ESSAY Cant),
so this is what I think the 'double concept' or DUALITY in this selected response items issue.]]> 2020-06-22 14:45:52 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636231026 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636283943 Q17
Aimi Nur Dalila bt Mohammad Khairi (1725590)
Najeeha bt Abdullah (1715012)
1. For the teachers, what other elements that need to be consider while doing the questions rather than just based on students performances?
answer
1. question cover a topic that WAS TAUGHT
2. question is made/build in such a way that it FOLLOWS guideline of good item writing.
3. It is appropriate to the LEVEL of the students (meaning students generally can answer ) - Not overly hard and not overly easy.
4. Time is appropriate for students to answer/respond to the test.
do refer to the complete guidelines in the notes/attached resources.
2.Why is it important to put distractors(an incorrect option in a multiple choice question) especially those distractors that really closed to the right answer at a mcq answer?
answer
To make the MCQ up to a higher difficult level (to a HOT type MCQ).
If not, the MCQ is considered low difficulty]]> 2020-06-22 15:26:16 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636283943 IE1 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636290245 Faris Mukhlis bin Rizal 1729737
Muhammad Firdaus bin Abd Halim @ Abu Hassan 1719697

Should the number of MCQ be reduced and focus more to increase the number of questions for other types of selected-response items especially for Paper 1 (mostly for all subjects in the exams in Malaysia)? This action somehow will be time less-consuming for the teachers to construct the questions.
answer
a good test can have a COMBINATION of any types:
usually it is a combination of BOTH
selected and constructed questions. So it depends on the teacher who should KNOW the varied abilities of their own students - correct?
actually research have shown:
MCQ - Not easy to construct , but Fast to mark;
while
Essay: at times Easy to make/construct; BUT longer time to mark,
so again - teachers need to make the best choices PLUS depends on the ability and status of the class/students!

]]> 2020-06-22 15:31:17 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636290245 Q5 eisyahsmily https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636927284 Aishah binti Taib 1710508
Wan Nur Hani Aqilah binti Wan Adnan 1717660

The distraction will make the MCQ up to higher difficult level (for HOTs type of MCQ), but as mention in one of the video, why we are not encouraged to use fancy or difficult word/term as one of the correct answer?
answer:
if you did use 'fancy' or 'bombastic' word, yes it is tricky and it is indeed fancy, BUT it has become a TRICK question.
the student may not be able to answer NOT because of not knowing the fact or the learning taught, BUT maybe due to them NOT used to the vocabulary that you used 'fancily'.
hope you can understand.

Remember: we do not want to trick students so they have the tendency to get questions wrong because of other factors apart from the main idea in the question. if this happen, we are the cause of the item being not reliable.]]> 2020-06-23 03:57:34 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/636927284 IE3 soufianasalim94 https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/637522238 Soufiana Salim Drame (1428021)
Muhammad Haziq B. M. N (1715773)

Question:
Frequently we see some test that asking the students to choose section (question) that they want. For example, answer 5 sections among six sections while the first section is a must. Is it kind of unreliability too? If yes, why? And for the time limitation of a test, what is your point of view, because some student might know the answer but yet the time gave not enough for them?
answer:
if choice of sections, all questions in the given section MUST have about the same difficulty -only then it is fair to all students. so no matter what section you choose, the set of questions remains similar challenging.
That is why all test are provided the MAXIMUM time to answer and complete it. If still student complain not enough time, maybe the student is SPENDING too much time at one or a few questions -which should not happen.]]> 2020-06-23 14:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/drjoe/3501Sec2/wish/637522238