https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy en-us 2021-11-22 18:11:35 UTC 2026-02-27 11:16:15 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f35e.png epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934514300 While reading Fahrenheit 451, I stumbled apon its similarities to the allegory of the cave. Sure, we went over the allegory of the cave a bit in class, but reading Fahrenheit 451 allowed me to compare and contrast the similar elements of both stories. The allegory of the cave is a very simple story in comparison to other novels of today. It only tells of prisoners shackled up in a cave, away from the outside world, only knowing its shadows. Fahrenheit 451 is a more complex story with more characters, archtypes, and in depth plot, but it has its own shackled prisoners too. The shackled prisoners of fahrenheit 451 are its anti book members in the dystopian society. Along with the conformists in each story, there is also an explorer who tries to change their ways in both as well. I thought I could really get in depth with their similarities and find a large sum of evidence in both the book and sources to back it up.]]> 2021-12-07 20:43:14 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934514300 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934521277 Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradury has almost an identical message to Platos Allegory of the Cave. The only key differences are characters, setting, and plot. This can be proved when comparing the two and their circumstances.]]> 2021-12-07 20:48:34 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934521277 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934528264 Evidence from sources: 
1. “Mrs Blake did not simply die in the fireman's inferno, she committed sucide. She would not be forced to live in a world that contained only shadows." (George 127)

This quote directly shows how the grasp of knowledge was more important to Mrs. Blake than conforming to what was previously known and comfortable. When comparing Mrs. Blake to the enlightened prisoner, you can see that both of them are confident in the knowledge they have obtained, and are determined to not change their ways even when they are disagreed with. 

2. "In addition to that, the ideological state apparatuses play a significant role in the imaginative world of the anti-intellectual, obedient and shallow culture of Fahrenheit 451. The ideological state apparatuses function in harmony
with repressive state apparatuses and this fact is evident either in the statements of some characters such as Beatty, Faber, and Clarisse who are informed about older generations (thereby providing comparison); or in
the lifestyles of some characters such as Mildred and her friends who stand as the representatives of that society." (Koc 111)

Mildred and her friends are representatives of their society in a way that they follow and conform to what they know. The people in the cave also conform to what they know, even when given the option to change their view. Ignorantly, the prisoners and Mildred and her friends both neglect the compassion of their "saviors" (Montag and the enlightened prisoner) out of their own selfishness and closed mindsets. 

3. "Amy E. Boyle Johnston who interviewed Bradbury writes that “[Bradbury] says the culprit in Fahrenheit 451 is not the state - it is the people." (Koç 113)

The people are the main culprit in both Fahrenheit 451 and The Allegory of the cave. The only real changable factor in their lives is themselves and their views. If they stay conformed in what they know, they will never change.]]> 2021-12-07 20:53:29 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934528264 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934530392 Through researching the similarities between both stories, I have learned more about societies and the norms of their people. In both stories, people held onto what was comfortable to them. Really, the only thing getting in the way between the changing of their perspective was themselves. I feel like in addition to the stories, this can be applied to our lives as well. We encounter knowledge and new perspective oppertunities everyday, and it is up to us whether we want to learn from them or not. In the novel, I now can feel and relate to the emotions of the people in the story. In some, I can sense their fear that comes with stepping outside their comfort zone, and in others I can see the urge to obtain power through knowledge. I wish while reading I could have noticed Platos inspiration more. The completion of this project has inspired me to become more passionate and interested in the topics I chose. The creative element was also fun for me, as I do not have many creative oppertunities anymore. As far as college goes, using data bases and citing correctly will benefit me there. It was nice to have a refresher on how to find sources and where to cite them as well. ]]> 2021-12-07 20:55:07 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934530392 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934533304 2021-12-07 20:57:08 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1934533304 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1935118833 2021-12-08 04:43:26 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1935118833 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1936762911 Evidence from the book:
1. "Maybe the books can get us half out the cave." (Bradbury 70)

In this quote, Montag is trying to convince Mildred to rebel against their anti knowledge society, while making a direction reference to The Allegory of the Cave to foreshadow their societies potential outcome if doing so. If the society gets at least half out of the "cave", they may change their perspective, like the enlightened prisoner in The Allegory of the Cave. 

2. "I don't talk things, sir," said Faber. "I talk the meaning of things. I sit here and know I'm alive." (Bradbury 71)

Though this quote does not mention The Allegory of the Cave directly, it does have one key similar aspect. In this quote, Montag shows his knowledge through restating his perspective, a perspective a majority of the people in his society do not have. This is similar to the people in the cave, they do not share the same perspective with the enlightened prisoner. 

3.  "All we want to do is keep the knowledge we think we need, intact and safe. We're not out to incite or anger anyone yet. For if we are destroyed, the knowledge is dead." (Bradbury 145)

This quote really ties into knowledge equalling power. The travelers in fahrenheit 451 value their knowledge and guard it with their life. They do not feel the need to force their ways onto others, as the knowledge has brought them wisdom. This is similar to the enlightened prisoner in The Allegory of the Cave. He held onto the knowledge he found, and tried to convince the other prisoners that it was true. However, he knew that their lack of experience made it almost impossible for them to relate to him. ]]> 2021-12-08 20:24:47 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1936762911 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1936778355 2021-12-08 20:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1936778355 epaul43 https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1937326379 2021-12-09 03:27:21 UTC https://padlet.com/epaul43/kwzrul5lxouobauy/wish/1937326379