Code Red Discussion - Friday 5/20 by Rachel deLahunta https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln Please feel free to share an experience or ask a question here. Click the plus sign in the bottom right corner. These comments and questions are anonymous. Joel Hernandez and I can read these comments and questions during today's meeting so as to facilitate our dialogue. - Rachel en-us 2022-05-20 15:01:54 UTC 2022-05-20 22:20:59 UTC hello@padlet.com delahuntar https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193171946 I am not upset that we had a code red - I was confused when the communication to families said we had a shelter in place and then another email said we should have done code blue]]> 2022-05-20 15:28:58 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193171946 delahuntar https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193172472 I think the safety team did a remarkable job responding, the communication was the confusing part for me]]> 2022-05-20 15:29:25 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193172472 Why was a code red called when there is no such term anymore? It should have been Run, hide, defend. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193172537 2022-05-20 15:29:28 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193172537 delahuntar https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193173329 Some students ran during the drill and were directed back to classrooms, why?]]> 2022-05-20 15:29:51 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193173329 delahuntar https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193173704 Some of the gates were being locked, but I thought the first part was to run?]]> 2022-05-20 15:30:09 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193173704 Communication was unclear https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193174403 First code red, then code blue, then shelter in place, then "check your emails." Code Red made sense when we all thought it was a real gun (even though it was not a traditional school shooter incident, it still seems like the correct course of action), but once it became clear it was not a real weapon, that should have been clearly communicated to teachers. Instead, we found out from the emails directed towards families.]]> 2022-05-20 15:30:45 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193174403 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193175185 Why were kids being told to come back on campus, if it was  a RHD call?]]> 2022-05-20 15:31:20 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193175185 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193177966 Why were gates being locked? And why were kids being told to come back on campus. NO gates should be locked during a code red, (run hide defend).  EVERYONE should be running, hiding, defending.  Locking gates defeats the purpose of running and puts everyone in more danger]]> 2022-05-20 15:33:34 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193177966 I do not understand locking the gates ESPECIALLY after last week. Apart from that, teachers are made to be traffic controllers whenever we open up a gate. Just leave them open! https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181055 2022-05-20 15:35:58 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181055 QQ https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181084 Should we have continued classes, if this call was to RHD?]]> 2022-05-20 15:35:59 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181084 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181233 Will the administration be getting some training on Run, hide, defend, shelter in place and how to communicate with each scenario?  ]]> 2022-05-20 15:36:05 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181233 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181670 In the procedures for run/hide/defend, it says that it will only be lifted after the police/safety team checks in on classrooms. Instead, the announcement was made that the situation was over, and everyone should go to 6th period. I realize that the code red was lowered to shelter in place, but that still seems like a questionable breach of procedure. Do we wait for the cops or not?]]> 2022-05-20 15:36:23 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193181670 If gates are closed, why is there no one present to supervise/open gates when needed? This is especially important in the event of an actual code red. I was told students should head to classrooms, but that is not how a run, hide, defend works. We are not prepared for a real emergency. The person in charge of safety gets defensive instead of working towards a solution when this is brought up. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193184238 2022-05-20 15:38:26 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193184238 Lack of preparation https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193189509 This is all telling in the way this was handled last week. After the miscommunication why is all our policy not being looked at and overhauled? It is clear this was not handled properly. Communication via email after everything ends? The communication from admin has been impersonal all year but this topped the cake in how everything was communicated ]]> 2022-05-20 15:42:26 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193189509 Students shared that they were not familiar with the term Code Red and were confused. So maybe when we practice this drill in the future, it can be it's own drill? https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193189515 2022-05-20 15:42:26 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193189515 Safety is most important and the safety team made sure of this first, hands down. There was nothing malicious about how things were handled. I am sure we could learn from this unique experience and continue to improve our protocols and communication in the future. Btw, did we ever have our code red training this year? I don't recall. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193200073 2022-05-20 15:50:16 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193200073 Admin confusion https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193206481 Why is Pollet calling it a shelter in place and Osuna calling it a code Red. Who is in charge here?]]> 2022-05-20 15:55:30 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193206481 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193219013 Why did you lock gates?  Perpetrator was on campus.  Good idea!! Lets get locked in with the criminal]]> 2022-05-20 16:05:21 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193219013 Students https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193220207 Now that they were told to go back onto the campus, what happens if this happens for real? The kids are going to try to get back on campus and lives will be lost.]]> 2022-05-20 16:06:19 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193220207 Why was admin knocking on our door at the start of Code Red being called? We had to take down our barricade, this scared the students and did not feel safe. I thought Code Red means no one in or out of the classroom. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193221232 2022-05-20 16:07:05 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193221232 Admin needs training https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193226960 Just calling it a code red shows how ill prepared our SAFETY team is.  All gates should be open and guess what, admin should not be riding around on their cart telling kids to go to a classroom.  Maybe they should run, hide defend]]> 2022-05-20 16:11:40 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193226960 Communication and preparation https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193229188 1. There should be a different sound , or  2 buzzes or something when there is an announcement being made for code red or other emergencies. We get so many announcements that we don't always listen when we hear the normals sound. All emergency announcements need to be repeated at least 2 times so everyone can hear it clearly and understand.
2. Some sort of cheat sheet should be made and put in each room by the phone/door. If there is a substitute they would know what to do. The cheat sheet should be color coded. Have all codes and what to do in the event of each emergency. It should also be laminated and have emergency numbers.
3. Other School sites have emergency buckets. We do not. How can we get some for our classrooms?]]> 2022-05-20 16:13:37 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193229188 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193229985 Our admin is calling this a success. This was a tragic failure. If there is ever a real code red we will see just how tragic a failure this truly was. ]]> 2022-05-20 16:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193229985 No amount of excuses or apologies will be adequate for the loss of life due to poor planning in the event of a real shooting. Especially when staff has already pointed out the problems ahead of time, but they have been deflected or ignored. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193235841 2022-05-20 16:19:11 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193235841 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193239376 Why are we locking gates in the student parking lot?  To keep kids in?  But then we have more than 50 kids a day off campus at lunch at the taco truck across the street, walking out by the SU. Its a free for all, but we lock the student lot?? Makes no sense.  It is not for safety reasons otherwise there would be no kids off campus.  
Stop locking the gates in the parking lot, if there was a real RHD (code red), there would be no where to run to get off campus. ]]> 2022-05-20 16:22:11 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193239376 gunnm https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193244017 My suggestion is that we don't use color codes, as that seems to add to the confusion. Remembering what Blue is versus Red in the heat of the moment might be difficult. I think it may help clarify for everyone if we stick to the terms "Shelter-In-Place" or "Run, Hide, Defend".]]> 2022-05-20 16:26:02 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193244017 When I asked about a run hide defend situation with the gates locked months ago, I was told students should be running into buildings, followed by smart ass remarks. I don't think he knows the difference between run, hide, defend and a shelter in place. Disrespectful, inconsiderate of staff and dangerous. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193245681 2022-05-20 16:27:19 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193245681 Change https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193279946 Unfortunately, through experience, I have no faith in this administration to make any meaningful change to policy or procedure. Several times earlier in the school year I contacted admin about drug use and smoking in the parking lot after practices. Zero response every time this was communicated. They do not care. ]]> 2022-05-20 16:55:39 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193279946 Information https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193292674 I have students telling me that they had not idea what was going on and didnt find out that it was a pellet gun until they heard about everything on the news. What are we doing?!?!]]> 2022-05-20 17:06:27 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193292674 delahuntar https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193308740 I am frustrated that students continue to leave campus at lunch time. I haven't heard any ideas of how to address this issue]]> 2022-05-20 17:19:59 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193308740 Code Red = Run, Hide, Defend https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193336794 I appreciate the efforts of the safety team keeping us safe.

However, if a Code Red is called, you must follow through with all parts of the criteria, not just some parts. When the gates were closed, the "Run" part of the Code Red was eliminated. For many of us, that is our only option to stay safe. There needs to be a "safe point" off campus where students and staff can run to during a Code Red event and should be practiced during a Code Red (Run, Hide, Defend) drill.]]> 2022-05-20 17:43:12 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193336794 There should be a PD and scheduled drills for this. What if real Code Red is in place, then why don't we have some emergency supplies in the classroom? What if some students really need to use the bathroom? There should be an emergency bucket and tent for this purpose. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193338790 2022-05-20 17:44:49 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193338790 Opportunity to learn from 5/13 galvezd2 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193345005 I am grateful the Code Red was called and we were ushered to safety (even though it should be called Run, Hide, Defend). What I would have appreciated is more communication from admin when the situation changed. Many of my students (myself included) called loved ones thinking this was the worst. However, I still see this as a time to reflect and learn.
1. What is this situation called? Code Red? Run Hide Defend? Everyone should be on the same page.
2. Should we be locking gates during this situation? Doesn't seem safe if we are supposed to be running first.
3. Once we lock our doors, no one should be let in. Where do kids go once our doors are locked? Should they run and hide? What should we be telling our students?
4. I remember we used to be on Remind and when we had these drills, messages would be sent through there. It was very convenient. Could we use that app again for communication?
5. We need buckets and directions for each situation in our classrooms for a sub and in case we are stuck inside long term. 
6. We all make mistakes and if a mistake is made, we understand. We are human. Apologies go a long way to show the ability to admit you're human, you made a mistake, and you have the ability to admit it and hopefully, learn from the situation.
7. I think we should all take this as a learning opportunity.]]> 2022-05-20 17:49:55 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193345005 students feelings https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193358361 Students feel ignored. The only communication to them after the fact is on the NEWS part of scholloop. They did NOT receive an email from admin through gmail or schoolloop. Students don't look on the NEWS on schoolloop]]> 2022-05-20 18:01:18 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193358361 Condescending comments from Admin https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193414367 This past Mach, Osuna's email replying  regarding confusion with shelter in place protocol: "Shelter in place, if you remember from the training, is just to keep the students in class with the door locked. Business as usual. 
You do not need to barricade the doors."
In order to call a  code red, the  Protocol states: 
  • There is an imminent danger on campus
This was not the case on last week's incident.
If you (the person that called for the code red) remember from the training


]]> 2022-05-20 18:56:42 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193414367 Communication https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193500701 I believe calling a code read was warranted given the events that played out. I am comfortable with the terminology as well. What was confusing was the communication. The event felt downplayed when there was an email sent out saying we were on Code Blue the entire time, then another saying we were on Code Blue most of the time. From the teacher and student perspective, this was a code red for almost the entire hour. That affected us emotionally. The sooner we can hear from the safety team about what is going on, the better. That way we can calm the kids down in our class. Someone else mentioned Remind. I agree that it is a very convenient way to communicate with everyone aside from email. ]]> 2022-05-20 20:50:02 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193500701 Plan https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193504227 There needs to be a plan in place for students that get stuck outside of a classroom in case there is a real active shooter on campus. I had several kids come back to my room after the barricade was put up. I told them they should run off campus or run into the restrooms and barricade there. Luckily another classroom door opened up. Students need to really know what to do should they have to barricade in the restrooms. Or they should know what safe space to run to in case they are able to get off campus. ]]> 2022-05-20 20:56:31 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193504227 https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193504493 The safety team did a good job. The safety team dealt the problem head on. Worked with SJPD. It could be a real gun.
I felt that they are underappreciated here. ]]> 2022-05-20 20:57:01 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193504493 Calling the code red was the correct choice. It should have stayed code red throughout in order to maintain protocol standards for students. https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193549393 2022-05-20 22:20:59 UTC https://padlet.com/delahuntar/krxvxrnhcv07skln/wish/2193549393