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         <title>Click on the PLUS sign on the bottom right, type in your opinion, add in pictures/media if you wish, and click Publish.</title>
         <author>syaheerah</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>I think...</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-25 07:32:24 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Autonomy is violated</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:36:45 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>confidentiality, however, is it breaching the confidentiality of the patient if he doesn't provide the name or any of the personal info of the patient?</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:37:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>he should study the case and search about it then give an answer</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:37:42 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Should transfer the case to more experienced doctor who can give good diagnosis </title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:37:51 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>The doctor violated patient confidentiality, informed consent, and professional responsibility by using an external AI chatbot for diagnosis without permission. This also risked patient harm due to unreliable information. Instead, they should have used hospital-approved AI, protected patient data, verified AI suggestions with clinical guidelines, and consulted senior doctors when needed.</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:38:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Majda Al Salmi</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>1- violation of informed consent, patient confidentiality, non maleficence</p><p>2- consult an older physician or research more about what could be the cause (do more tests)</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:38:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>sharing patient info to AI server is not ethical (Autonomy), instead he can discuss the case with other doctors and colleagues.  (Hazaa Al Hasani).</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:38:38 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>autonomy</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:38:39 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Autonomy is not achieved </title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:38:53 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>the best answer</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Ethical Concerns Violated:</p><ol><li><p><strong>Patient Confidentiality &amp; Data Privacy (HIPAA Violation)</strong></p><ul><li><p>The physician shared protected health information (PHI) with an external AI system without consent, violating privacy laws like HIPAA (in the U.S.) or GDPR (in the EU).</p></li></ul></li><li><p><strong>Lack of Informed Consent</strong></p><ul><li><p>The patient was not informed that their data would be processed by AI, breaching the principle of autonomy.</p></li></ul></li><li><p><strong>Reliability &amp; Accuracy of AI Diagnosis</strong></p><ul><li><p>The LLM’s diagnosis was not based on real-time, verified clinical data, raising the risk of <strong>misdiagnosis</strong> and potential harm to the patient.</p></li></ul></li></ol><p>Ethical Alternatives:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Use AI Systems Approved for Healthcare</strong></p><ul><li><p>Instead of a general-purpose LLM, hospitals should use <strong>HIPAA-compliant, medically validated AI tools</strong>.</p></li></ul></li><li><p><strong>Anonymize Patient Data</strong></p><ul><li><p>If AI is used, patient data should be stripped of identifying information.</p></li></ul></li><li><p><strong>Seek Expert Medical Consultation</strong></p><ul><li><p>Physicians should prioritize <strong>peer discussions, second opinions, and evidence-based clinical tools</strong> instead of relying on unverified AI-generated diagnoses.</p></li></ul></li><li><p><strong>Obtain Patient Consent</strong></p><ul><li><p>If AI assistance is necessary, obtain informed consent before using patient data.</p></li></ul></li></ul>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:39:00 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>autonomy, privacy</p><p>tell an expert</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:39:09 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p> Discussing complex cases with senior doctors or specialists ensures a diagnosis is based on real medical expertise.</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:39:46 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Use hospital approved Al tool                                                2-seek guidance from senior colleagues</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:39:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>He should follow evidence based guidelines </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Get Patient Consent When Using AI</strong></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:14 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Autonomy maybe Brocken here</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:20 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Give the case to a better doctor </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:28 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>get help from supervisor </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:29 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Autonomy, he should’ve asked his colleagues </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:40:56 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>autonomy ( informed consent) </p><p><br/></p><p>must work on the case and read about it </p><p>and discuss with his team</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:10 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>send him to a bigger hospital/ better physician who is specialised</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:15 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Autonomy , Protect the confidentiality of information</p><p>He Consult senior doctors or refer to trusted medical sources before making clinical decisions</p><p>Hoor  Alwahaibi </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Autonomy, he should consult other expert doctors with more experience </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:24 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Consult experts or use approved AI with consent.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>consult other physicions</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:41:38 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>ask Allah for help and search in books</title>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:42:19 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Ethical codes:</p><p>the physician shared sensitive data, this violates the patient’s confidentiality.</p><p><br/></p><p>what physician should do:</p><p>use hospital approved AI tools</p><p>Ask for the patient consent </p><p>report about the incident </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:42:31 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Hide the identity of the patient like name age address etc..</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:42:44 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>ability or right of an individualto make independent decisions and govern itself without external control</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:42:52 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>1- Ethical codes violated are: patient confidentiality, autonomy (informed consent), accuracy of medical advice </p><p><br/></p><p>2- The doctor should seek patient consent and approval and respect whatever decision he makes, ask doctors and other specialists for help, but if there is difficulties in asking for help from specialists he could use AI apps that are validated for such cases. </p><p>Sumood </p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:46:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Ethical codes violated: </p><p>Patient confidentiality </p><p>Informed consent</p><p>Non-Maleficence: risk misdiagnosis </p><p><br/></p><p>Ethical alternatives :</p><p>Obtain patient consent before using AL</p><p>Consult senior physicians</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:52:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p> 1. Patient confidentiality and data privacy was shared with an external server without consent</p><p>2. the patient did not consent to their data being processed by an AI system. </p><p><br/></p><p>The junior physician should consult with senior colleagues or specialists to discuss the complex case. Also, before using any AI tools, the physician must obtain informed consent from the patient</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 13:54:22 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>ethical codes violated : confidentiality and autonomy  , he should have consulted his colleagues before taking this step</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 14:02:25 UTC</pubDate>
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