Pedagogy III 2018: Working with Older Students by Ashley Cuthbertson https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d Let's share our questions and experiences about working with older students. First, pose one question and make one statement. Second, search the padlet and respond to others' questions and comments. Third, let's share and discuss as a group. en-us 2018-07-02 12:02:31 UTC 2018-07-08 14:47:22 UTC hello@padlet.com Question: What is your favorite unit/concept to teach older students? a_cuthbertson14 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269153700 2018-07-02 12:05:30 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269153700 I've noticed that older students are more concerned with autonomy than younger students. Planning instruction for them both involves making sure they have the skills they need to be successful and allowing them plenty of opportunities to practice and have voice/choice in their learning. a_cuthbertson14 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269153888 2018-07-02 12:08:21 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269153888 Comment: https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625251 I have trouble with "buy-in" for some of my older classes - especially if students have come from other schools and are unfamiliar with me and the way we do music class. I'm wondering if it's my choice of games/activities, or if this is a common problem for other music teachers. ]]> 2018-07-07 18:08:46 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625251 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625253 I've found that many of my older students find it "insulting" when something is perceived to be beneath their level (even if I've already told them that we're reviewing a concept). I'm hoping this goes away since I've only been in my school for three years...]]> 2018-07-07 18:08:48 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625253 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625257 Do any of you have older beginners? If so, what are some of your strategies that you use for getting them interested in Kodaly repertoire and pedagogy?

]]> 2018-07-07 18:08:53 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625257 Question: How do you catch older beginners up to their classmates on a faster pace than you would normally teach? https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625262 2018-07-07 18:09:05 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625262 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625263 I appreciate how older students are more self aware, and know how to give themselves and others feedback. ]]> 2018-07-07 18:09:06 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625263 With my older students I've found I need to acknowledge their outside life experiences and real world knowledge before they will form a relationship with me. https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625264 2018-07-07 18:09:08 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625264 Question: How do I keep older students from feeling like some of the activities we are doing aren't "Kiddie?" https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625265 2018-07-07 18:09:09 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625265 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625267 I've enjoyed teaching takatiki to my older students-they have a lot of fun with the songs and games]]> 2018-07-07 18:09:10 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625267 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625271 Question: How do you keep older students engaged/how long should each activity be?]]> 2018-07-07 18:09:14 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625271 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625285 All of my older students so far have been older beginners. I feel that they have found success in learning basic rhythmic concepts quickly, but several of them still struggle with maintaining a gentle tuneful singing voice, which makes me concerned about how I'd go about teaching modal concepts with limited time with them.]]> 2018-07-07 18:09:54 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625285 How do you streamline lessons to catch students up while still doing age appropriate music? https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625293 2018-07-07 18:10:06 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625293 I am really proud of the work I was able to do with my fifth graders last year. They really came along in partsinging. I'm wondering how I'm going to challenge them this year https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625299 2018-07-07 18:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625299 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625300 I remember the older students enjoying aspects of the lessons that involved instruments.]]> 2018-07-07 18:10:21 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625300 Comment: Older students learn faster, but will not be as open to changing something they "think" they already know. https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625304 2018-07-07 18:10:27 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625304 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625310 Question: How do you deal with older students that might have transferred in from other schools that have far different ability levels than the students you've taught all year?]]> 2018-07-07 18:10:41 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625310 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625315 How do you engage older beginner non-english speaking students from day 1? I can speak Spanish, (most of my ESOL students are Spanish-Speaking) but the other kids get frustrated with me if they hear me speaking Spanish. ]]> 2018-07-07 18:10:52 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625315 Question: https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625322 What do you do with a student who is "too cool" for music class?]]> 2018-07-07 18:11:09 UTC https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625322 https://padlet.com/a_cuthbertson14/klkzbzfid70d/wish/269625336 Question: How do we differentiate lessons for classes with several students who are already strong with concepts and others who are beginners?

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