https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax en-us 2022-09-28 23:10:07 UTC 2022-09-29 13:41:20 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2318367845 2022-09-28 23:33:26 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2318367845 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319395926 That testing measures the gap not creates it. ]]> 2022-09-29 13:32:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319395926 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319396813 Different stance than I usually see. Does not create the gap but is a resource to see who needs additional help.]]> 2022-09-29 13:32:30 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319396813 hkrhoades https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397308 The pro team discussed a “diversity of intelligence”… I would love to hear more on why it is important for there to be different levels of intelligence in our society]]> 2022-09-29 13:32:46 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397308 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397626 2022-09-29 13:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397626 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397796 That standardized testing is practice for future tests and the real world ]]> 2022-09-29 13:32:59 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397796 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397889 Advocating for testing doesn't necessarily mean advocating for the barriers testing often present (like the price to retest)]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:02 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319397889 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398462 50-80% of scores were changed by external factors ]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:21 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398462 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398477 That the result of standardized testing is skewed very heavily by external factors out of the control of the student.]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398477 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398493 2022-09-29 13:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398493 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398517 Testing helps provide the quantitative results necessary for qualitative changes to be made]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:23 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398517 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398662 Bold, but powerful argument with strong examples that hit Kael's point home.]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:27 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398662 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398855 An argument that stood out was that they are arguing for testing, not for testing to be paid for. They phrased a solution that could just be waiving fees for lower income households.]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319398855 gluf https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319399076 The turning friends into competitors into friends was an interesting argument and I wish we could hear more about it]]> 2022-09-29 13:33:39 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319399076 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400236 The tests themselves can be, if somewhat effective at best, a way for your application to stand out if other avenues (e.g. extracurriculars) were largely unavailable.]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400236 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400379 That standardized testing is in every way not equal to all students even in the language they use to create the tests (white centered dialects).]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400379 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400751 2022-09-29 13:34:27 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400751 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400843 Curriculum based around standardized testing is less effective than project-based learning]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:30 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400843 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400939 The vomiting protocol has stood out every time I hear it. It goes to show how cruel these tests can be.]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319400939 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401044 One argument made by the con team was the fact that he has such a quick and simple solution that he brought to focus on the spot. His explanation of the solution to assessing what kids have learned was extremely persuasive. As someone who began this debate on the pro side of this argument, Kale’s arguments honestly made me become more neutral to the subject, knowing that there could be a solution/improvement instead of complete eradication. ]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401044 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401379 With so many tests overall in one's education career they all still hold such weight, and that within each test so much can be effected externally that defeats the idea of them being "standard" to begin with

]]> 2022-09-29 13:34:46 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401379 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401778 2022-09-29 13:34:58 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401778 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401873 2022-09-29 13:35:01 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319401873 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319402354 Achievement gap is caused by resources/inequality outside of school that can be measured and identified by tests to help the students ]]> 2022-09-29 13:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319402354 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319402801 Pro team explained how to utilize the gap as a resource, which I found to be very compelling.]]> 2022-09-29 13:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319402801 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319403777 The test provides accountability for students/teachers to meet learning goals that every student should be able to understand by the end of their schooling]]> 2022-09-29 13:35:58 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319403777 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319404004 2022-09-29 13:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319404004 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319404233 I'd like to hear more about people's takes on tutoring, test prep books, and other forms of preparation for testing that may be only available to the already privileged]]> 2022-09-29 13:36:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319404233 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319405453 I think something I took away is the blank space that is the answer to the question: "if not testing, then what?" I was not really compelled by any of the suggested answers, for even projects at the end of a class will be biased by the same resources each school has due to property taxes. And would we standardize these projects? If so, is this really much better than a test?]]> 2022-09-29 13:36:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319405453 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406141 The complexities behind using project-based learning instead of standardized tests, specifically what the pro team said about how it might not be a fair measurement as different schools have different access to resources ]]> 2022-09-29 13:36:59 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406141 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406310 How many of these tests really make/break a student's educational experience? Elementary/middle school grades have little to no long-term implications, and most tests in high school are becoming optional. I'd love to hear more thoughts on whether or not one test can truly ruin everything]]> 2022-09-29 13:37:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406310 gluf https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406407 Moving forward I want to be more cognizant of making big generalizations about a group of people. Minorities were depicted in this debate with a lot of stereotypes, which is something to word differently moving forward. ]]> 2022-09-29 13:37:06 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406407 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406627 If the entire testing "sphere" could be made free (everything from the tests themselves to tutoring/textbooks), how would that affect our schooling/the test results themselves?]]> 2022-09-29 13:37:14 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319406627 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319407313 It let me look more at the big picture instead of just focusing on the side that I actually believe which is the con side. Specifically, an argument from the pro side made me think deeper when they talked about the fact that standardized testing only measures the achievement gap and shows up where problems lay. If we used these measurements effectively to give help where it's needed than maybe standardized tests could actually be useful.]]> 2022-09-29 13:37:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319407313 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319409397 is there a difference in the life skills developed in someone who grew up taking the 112 standardized tests compared to someone who went to a school that focused more on project based learning? ]]> 2022-09-29 13:38:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319409397 https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319414743 The description of how one community writes the test in a dialect mostly known/well understood by people from that community makes tests inaccessible to people from other communities/backgrounds who might be more familiar with different dialect ]]> 2022-09-29 13:41:19 UTC https://padlet.com/kateway44/kkobrwvjs46hjtax/wish/2319414743