Remake of Library Council discussion on OA Listening Tour by https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g Sept 20, 2023 en-us 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC 2023-09-22 17:11:25 UTC hello@padlet.com How far does upper Administration think it's useful for the Library to go in terms of our position (i.e. Faculty autonomy, are we shifting? to a position of being an agent organizationally facilitating OA) leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647224 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647224 a bit, about the status of OA journals leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647225 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647225 yes - they support in principle but it is challenging in practice leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647226 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647226 I have had a few conversations with a seasoned professor regarding hosting her journal at the UofA. She is adamant that her journal must continue charging a subscription cost for her association to survive. She sees the value of OA, but she cannot reconcile OA with revenues for non-profit scholarly associations. She is sad that she must look to other institutions for hosting the journal. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647227 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647227 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647228 I'm a little surprised that you had a generally positive response to the idea of OA - I tend to hear "yeah, that's something I've been meaning to think about..."]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647228 What about the researchers who have a goal of receiving awards and recognition that comes from publishing in non-OA journals. How can OA advocates influence the decision making around awards? leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647229 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647229 My assumptions have been that a few researchers care about this in the way that libraries do, but that it's not a primary concern for most. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647230 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647230 I was pretty impressed by how may faculty participated, and how into the discussion they were! leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647231 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647231 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647232 It's frustrating to hear that faculty evaluation processes do not align with OA values ]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647232 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647233 The findings didn’t strike me as surprising.]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647233 It makes me reflect on what we as librarians have control over and what we don't in this area leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647235 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647235 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647236 How does our own policy of not cataloguing free things affect discoverability or promotion of OA resources?]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647236 Great to hear that the notion of appropriate openness came up in terms of work with certain communities. An important nuance to be thought through leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647238 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647238 Agree. Not surprised. We have such little control over this issue. We can promote OA, but ultimately faculty are gonna do what's best for their career, based on what the FEC is looking for. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647239 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647239 Predatory journals dominating the discussion is a complication, and perhaps we need to look at how we approach this slightly differently leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647240 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647240 Communications plan/comms strategy to promote ERA leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647241 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647241 I am not sure if it is the role of the Library to try to influence what happens in FECs leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647242 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647242 Try and promote the legitimacy/impact of OA journals leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647243 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647243 I think the greatest success I know in ERA about is the theses project. That was something where ERA was a clear response to an access problem. I think for ERA to answer these recs further, it's about finding / promoting large or unique uses of the ERA service. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647244 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647244 We could follow our "Listening Tour" with a "Myth Busting Tour" leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647245 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647245 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647246 gather specific evidence against the "OA=poor quality" assumption - probably has to be done at discipline level]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647246 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647247 I'm not suprised by the concern on behalf of indigenous scholars but I hadn't heard that one before compared to the others. It is an important consideration.]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647247 Generative AI and publishers leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647248 An interesting point came up at the webinar on ChatGPT and Librarians today: resistance by publishers to OA seems to be rising as they want to avoid contributing "their" content to other businesses' large language models]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647248 Not so much a surprise in the report, but I remain surprised about how much confusion there can be among faculty about legitimate versus predatory publishers. I wonder specifically how we might better collaborate with some key OA publishers (e.g., PLoS) to help raise awareness of their value. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647249 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647249 The list given in the presentation are quite not-action: consider, ensure, etc. We're a small body serving a large faculty -- it's hard for me to imagine how we influence faculty in general. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647251 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647251 Work with the University/partner with the University leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647252 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647252 working more with FEC leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647253 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647253 do more workshops on OA to get the word out on the supports we have. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647254 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647254 In outreach, correct false narratives on OA and journal quality leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647255 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647255 Myth-busting tour and/or campaign. Amplifying Faculty OA champions voices. Panel on OA and FEC? Think need to target those with influence on FEC; especially with regards to earl career researchers. leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647257 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647257 Work with Research Services to inform people about the OA options leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647258 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647258 Advocacy for an Institutional OA policy leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647259 Are we an outlier yet in Canada? Do any of these statements have teeth?]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647259 continuing/expanding focus on OA in the Research Impact Team's reports for faculties & departments leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647260 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647260 Seat at the table leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647261 With the University foregrounding Open Scholarship in the new strat plan, it seems likely that some form of Open policy/declaration/mandate may be developed. We should have a voice in that process...or could even lead that process (as an extension of the OALT)]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647261 Question about our rules for OJS hosting rules relating to them charging very small APC fees ? leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647263 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647263 Consistent curriculum for post-docs and graduate students for OA literacy could be developed leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647264 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647264 leahv2 https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647265 Really clear instructions on the entire process of submitting an accepted article to the publisher so that they can easily navigate the invoicing for their author fee, etc. - we have so many individual pages regarding OA publications, but it’s not clear who to contact at every stage - a single workflow chart perhaps for every step]]> 2023-09-22 16:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/leahv2/kk2gdu7sla7qq64g/wish/2716647265