Experimentation Reflection by B

Experimentation Reflection by B https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1 1) Title your post your first and last name. 2) Paste your final reflection 3) Attach your work (export your google doc as a pdf) 4. Click submit en-us 2017-10-11 14:08:25 UTC 2024-05-18 22:37:46 UTC hello@padlet.com Nicholas Smith 1025627 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196871032 I feel that an unethical experiment can benefit society, but it is not the right thing to do. There is a line that needs to be drawn and I feel that the line is drawn when it is either driving a person insane or physically hurting people. If the experiments are done I do still feel that the results could be used because it could be used to help more people than were hurt in the test.]]> 2017-10-13 15:52:23 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196871032 Lillian Meyers https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196874259 I believe that unethical experiments can be helpful to the future of society because we can understand more about the human brain now because of some of these unethical experiments. I don’t believe that anyone should intentionally do something unethical or perform an unethical experiment without the patient’s consent. I do believe that results from unethical experiments should be taken into consideration because it can be helpful to psychiatrist and the mental health field. ]]> 2017-10-13 15:59:13 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196874259 Emily Adcock https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196874580 I feel like the only way that it benefits society is that it shows where the line is, and we learn from the mistake so that it will never happen in the future. They should be recognized as legitimate and they should be allowed to be used in modern studies because they started off as legitimate studies and got out of hand, and there is research in them that other scientists might need in studies that aren’t harmful to others. ]]> 2017-10-13 15:59:58 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196874580 Joyce Mikombo https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875020 Unethical experiments can benefit society but it’s not always the correct and only choice that someone has. If there is a way around an unethical test, then that way should be used in order to keep society in a healthy condition. A line must be drawn before any physical or psychological damage is caused. If an experiment is done knowing that psychological or physical damage can happen, then it shouldn’t be done in the first place nor should it be considered legitimate.]]> 2017-10-13 16:00:56 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875020 Kashmyr Adler 12557326 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875680 These three experiments are extremely unethical which do not benefit society. They are inhuman and there is definitely a line that is crossed. No one should be tortured and no child should be touched. Yes we indeed got results we might need in the near future but the human race should not use them against anyone but at the same time it shows that we don't need to experiment on that specific study again because we already know the results. Altogether the experiments were dehumanizing and not right.]]> 2017-10-13 16:02:26 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875680 Jacob Wallace 3862685373 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875925 Yes there are benefits to doing unethical experiments, because even though the people that suffered during those experiments the results could help thousands more. I do think that there should be a line, if whatever you’re experimenting isn’t worth the lives of the people you’re affecting then you shouldn’t do it. I also believe people shouldn’t be forced to do these experiments and should be given the option to back out at anytime. They should be recognized as legitimate and be used in modern studies, because otherwise those affected would have suffered for nothing.]]> 2017-10-13 16:03:00 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196875925 Grace Dean https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196878063 Unethical experimentation can benefit society, even though certain experiments may be morally wrong. These experimentations can tell us about human behavior and/or diseases. They can give us the results we need, but the actions taken to get these results are not okay. There is a line that should not be crossed when doing experimentation, especially on living things, such as humans. Anything that could harm or cause permanent damage to a living creature should not be tested. Because of this, some things may be left unknown, but it would be better to have it unknown than to risk the life of a human being to find a certain result or cure. Results from unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate due to the fact that these experiments were done by scientists who believed what they were doing would better humanity and some of the results they found actually contributed to scientific breakthroughs. However, the way they approached these experiments was morally incorrect and should not be used in modern studies.]]> 2017-10-13 16:07:25 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196878063 Lindsey Outlaw https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196880240 Unethical experimenting is not going to benefit society. There is a line that should not be crossed when it comes to experimenting. That line is if the subject will be hurt or tortured in any way during the experiment and will it have any lasting effects on the subject. They also shouldn’t be forced to do things they don’t feel comfortable with doing. Unethical experimentation shouldn’t be allowed in modern studies and it shouldn’t be recognized as legitimate. The results in unethical studies could affect the results because the people in the studies were uncomfortable and or in physical, mental, or emotional pain and wouldn’t give the best results.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:12:20 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196880240 Aliyah Campbell https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196881397 I feel that unethical experiments will affect society, but not in a beneficial way. Humans cross the line when their want for more information causes them to harm their own in twisted experiments. We experiment on animals and other organisms, but there is no excuse for conducting awful, and painful experiments on someone just to benefit your research. Results from unethical experiments should be illegal and not used in our studies. Everything has a limit, and if we allow these destructive experiments to be used as legitimate information, then we have crossed that line.]]> 2017-10-13 16:14:55 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196881397 Mia Chitwood https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882282 I believe that yes they may have benefited society at the time because if we wouldn't have done some of them we would have never known. I think the first 2 experiments we talked about were unethical and that the 3 pushed it a lot. The line gets drawn when people get hurt or animals get hurt. No I don't think any unethical tests should be ran. I feel like we need to treat all living things with compassion and respect.]]> 2017-10-13 16:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882282 Ell Henderson https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882553 They can benefit society by provide information, but there is definitely a moral line that separates science from abuse. The line is drawn from the truth that cannot be changed. If it is a manmade experiment intentionally hurting someone physically or mentally for test results then it crosses the line, regardless of consent. If the experiments are already done then you should be able to use the results, but also realize that we shouldn’t do them again. The same kind of experiments shouldn’t be used in modern studies, but as we continue to advance we will always find new ways to learn from our mistakes or repeat them.]]> 2017-10-13 16:17:17 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882553 Darian Soto https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882621 I think that a unethical experimentation can benefit but it comes with consequences. Like if they perform a unethical experimentation they should know the effects of it. They should know when to stop, once the patients start suffer severely they should stop it. They should be recognized as legitimate so we know when our breaking points are. ]]> 2017-10-13 16:17:26 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196882621 Kendall Nelson https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196883844 Unethical experiments can benefit society. Everything depends on circumstances, mostly the circumstances of the experiment. It also depends why it is unethical. For example, if someone was to run an experiment for educational purposes and with the consent of the participants then I would consider that ethical. If the experiment required unethical treatment, I would consider that okay. The subjects volunteered themselves and knew what the experiment would contain. Also, if the experiment was for information that would enhance the human race then it’s adequate.

For a true unethical experiment to take place then someone would have to be deliberately hurting other people, or even animals, for unnecessary reasons.

There is a line and it’s when the people in control of the experiment are going was past required to hurt the subject.

Unethical studies should not be allowed to be used in modern studies.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:20:14 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196883844 Aidan Seto https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196884829 All three of the experiments caused people to suffer in one way or another and suffering and pain should always be taken into account when doing experiments. But we should also ask ourselves if the knowledge we gain from the experiments are worth the pain of the subjects. Obviously the experiments done by the Nazis during WW2 are completely barbaric and unethical due to the sheer suffering the patients went through. But the other two experiments produced good results though we should never forget or become desensitized the pain that the subjects experienced. Though we should never replicate experiments that caused as much pain to unconsenting patients as the Nazi experiments, We should try to understand the results of these experiments so that the suffering caused to get the results aren’t in vain.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:22:24 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196884829 Riley Edwards https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885027 Although these experiments are deemed unethical, some unethical experiments can benefit society. Unethical experimentation, such as the Milgram and Zimbardo experiments, can show the essence of human nature and can lead to further breakthroughs. There is, however, a line that does need to be drawn. If it is physically hurting someone or mentally hurting someone, the experiment should be stopped. Unethical experiments should be allowed in modern studies, as long as they are not over the top. This is because the results from these unethical experiments could be beneficial to society.]]> 2017-10-13 16:22:48 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885027 Claire Sholar https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885169 I think that of course unethical experimentation can benefit society in a scientific sense because you can have real statistics for an idea that would only be based on guesses, but that doesn’t mean it should be done. The line is drawn when people are harmed. I think that since these unethical experiments have already happened, then they should be used in research as they are, because is they are not used then it makes all the emotional and physical suffering the test subjects went through pointless.]]> 2017-10-13 16:23:09 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885169 Kobey Godbold https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885625 I think unethical experiments can help society in a degree but in a degree they cant at all. They can cause harm and I definitely think there’s a line and I think it needs to be drawn the second someone gets hurt or is harmed in anyway. Experiments are helpful unless people are dying or getting hurt. I think that the results from those experiments can still be used because it already happened but in the future we should not do these kind of experiments.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:24:08 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196885625 Elizabeth Maguire https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886656 An unethical experiment can benefit society because while they may by horrible, they show information about human nature that may otherwise not have been known. There is a line that is drawn between an unethical experiment and an ethical experiment. This line is drawn when the experiment starts to hurt people mentally and/or physically. An example of this would be the Prison Experiment. In this experiment the roles were chosen by chance and everyone had signed up to be a part of it. This turned unethical because the prisoners had been mentally abused and some even have mental breakdowns and needed to leave. Results from unethical studies should be recognized as legitimate and be allowed to be used in modern studies because they can be used to know what we shouldn’t do. The unethical experiments show what humans should not do, and help others by showing what to do to prevent the circumstances that were in the experiments.]]> 2017-10-13 16:26:16 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886656 Matt Ferrara https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886922 I think these experiments could help society to a certain point. Hen you are actually hurting someone that is where the line is. Nobody in any experiment should get hurt mentally or physically. Yes I think that they should be recognized as legitimate as they show true data from their experiments. The scientists thought what they were doing was right therefore their data should be accepted.]]> 2017-10-13 16:26:54 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886922 Seth Witherspoon 1022843 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886978 I think that in a since they can benefit certain things in many ways but sometimes it’s not worth it. There is a line that is very sensitive in these cases. As soon as that line gets crossed I think it whatever is going on needs to be stopped immediately. I think that line draws when the subjects think it gets crossed because at the end of the day it’s them it’s effecting. They should because they can be useful like the cop case can help prison's realize if they have a problem.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:27:02 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196886978 Rachel Duff https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196888076 Although it is very wrong, the people that do these unethical experiments do give results that can be used in modern studies. The holocaust did do a lot of research, just like these experiments. There is a definite line between ethical and unethical though. For example, the experiment where the “teachers” had to do the electric shocks, that wasn’t causing any harm to anyone and was more like a survey so that did not cross the line. But, on the other hand, where the professor did the jail experiment, that definitely crossed the line because that actually put harm on people. I do not support the unethical experiments because they are wrong.]]> 2017-10-13 16:29:58 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196888076 Alex Hayes 1017303 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196888553 Unethical experimentation does benefit society to show us the human nature when put under pressure. I think that the experiments conducted can be valid to a certain extent. There's also a line to be drawn, because people should not be tortured like they were during the holocaust or the prisoner experiment. ]]> 2017-10-13 16:31:20 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196888553 Grace Kisting https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196890679 Although unethical experiments can benefit society, there is definitely a line in in which unethical experiments are too far. I believe that line is drawn for anything that isn’t conducted on voluntary subjects, doesn’t allow them to escape the experiment, or can result in permanent damage or harm of a person. These experiments shouldn’t be recognized as legitimate because to me, that is condoning the experiment and allowing for scientists to decide conducting similar experiments is ethical. ]]> 2017-10-13 16:37:16 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196890679 Spencer Cox https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196891425 Unethical experiments can be beneficial, but they should not be performed unless it has the consent of those who are involved. However, there is a line that can be drawn when it gets to an extremity and/or the partakers want out..

All that have been conducted should be used, but we should try to limit or ban the recreation of these experiments.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:39:21 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196891425 Olivia Vero https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196891472 I believe there is a limit to how unethical something can be. To a certain an extent an unethical decision could benefit the society. There is a line where if only one person is benefitting and other are getting hurt then it is no longer a beneficial wrong thing to do. Unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate because they are, in some cases, are a replica of something that happened in the past.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:39:27 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196891472 Xzybia Crowder 1156672 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196892087 Yes, these experiments that we have reviewed are dehumanizing, vigorous, and unethical, but some could be beneficial to our society. I’m not saying that these in particular were beneficial, because morally I don’t believe they were. I think that scientist should be able to test and explore beyond our knowledge but the line is crossed when be involuntarily are hurt physically and emotionally. Unethical experiments should not be recognized as legitimate in modern studies, unless the consent of the people who pertain to the experiment has given it after they are advised of every possible outcome and effects.

]]> 2017-10-13 16:41:06 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196892087 Gabe Smith https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196916736 2017-10-13 17:38:30 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196916736 Isabella Goebelt https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196918338 2017-10-13 17:42:33 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196918338 Vennice R.A https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196918821 To my understanding unethical experiments can be essential to society now and in the future because we can understand more about our bodies and their functions from the unethical experiments. But there is definitely a line that no one should purposely do something unethical or execute an unethical experiment without the patient’s consent. Then again I do believe that the results from unethical experiments should be considered because it can be helpful to medicine overall. It could improve the way we think of medicine today and how it grows in the future, there are times where we must push the limit but must take into consideration the patient(s) that it must happen too.

]]> 2017-10-13 17:43:42 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196918821 Sofia Cardona https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196920298 Unethical experiments can be beneficial to society because it can help people learn about human nature but it can also be damaging to the people involved in the experiments. There should be a line of how unethical an experiment can be because really unethical experiments can lead to people having extreme superiority complexes and they can start to lose any morals or ethical beliefs they used to have, as well as people can be hurt mentally or physical due to the experiments. The results of the experiments should be recognized as legitimate because the studies are about how humans react in certain situations and can be useful for learning more about how the human mind works. There should be a restriction on how unethical an experiment can be though.

]]> 2017-10-13 17:47:19 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196920298 Wilson Ramirez 12419766 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196923088 Unethical experimentation could benefit our society in many ways but I don't think it should be used unless the people who are going to be involved know exactly what they are getting into and every single bit of information that is going to happen to them.But there is a limit that this experiments should be taken to like if the participant doesn't want to do it anymore or if it gets out of hand.And all the information and data gathered while doing this experiment should be used but we should try not to do this kids of experiments on anybody or I feel like if we ever did this kinds of things we would lose our humanity.

]]> 2017-10-13 17:53:46 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196923088 Emma Ragland https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196923093 Yes, these experiments have been considered extremely unethical and irrational, but they could be beneficial to society. But a patient needs to know exactly what will be going on in an experiment and give consent before becoming susceptible to what the scientists want to do. I do think that even these unethical experiments can still provide knowledge for today’s society, though. However, I don’t think these sorts of experiments should be done again without the consideration for the patients and their circumstances.]]> 2017-10-13 17:53:47 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196923093 Hannah Picciano https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196926169 Although it is bad I feel as though it benefits our society in showing us what not do or how not to act in situations. I think if you are going to do an experiment the participants should know every detail before they are able to agree to follow through with it. Theses studies should not be done again unless the participants are fully aware of whats happening and workers are considerate to participants. ]]> 2017-10-13 18:01:06 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196926169 Caleb DeConcini https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196926752 Unethical experimentation can benefit society, but there is a line. No experiment should require making someone else hurt someone or make someone feel like they are useless and cannot do anything but listen to someone. Results from unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate because they are all how actual people react to being in a certain position, The experiments should be used in modern studies but not experiments that involve hurting someone physically or emotionally.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:02:37 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196926752 Imara Harrell https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196927533 It can benefit society but we should not do it. Once you start harming others in any physical or emotional way it should not be done. They should be recognized as legitimate but they should not be something will still do today in modern society. It’s wrong to harm people for answers, though they may help us, we should still not harm others in this way.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:04:06 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196927533 Karlyn Rutland https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196928419 These experiments and actions like these were not right, but they can benefit society by giving us a taste of what our world is really like, and it could even teach us something. There is also a line though. If someone is trying to show society something with experiments, it should not be taken too far. The results should be recognized as legit because some things like this do happen today. For example, sex trafficking. ]]> 2017-10-13 18:06:14 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196928419 Sarah Maclaga https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196928769 Even though these experiments are clearly unethical, the information gathered from them is of use to today’s scientific community. Because the world has seen the harmful effects experiments like these have on people, there is no reason to conduct them again. The results from these tests can be used to draw the line to support why one considers experiments like these to be unethical and prevent similar experiments from occurring.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:07:01 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196928769 Sara Bales sarabales65 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196929181 Certain things can help set standards on what is ethical, these things weren’t deemed unethical until they occurred because no one knew the real idea behind it. There are lines for certain experiments that are drawn before actually hurting someone physically, an example being the shocking test in which they knew the man was in 'pain' yet continued one. Even though the experiment was deemed unethical, the results should be allowed, however conducting the same or similar experiment shouldn't happen. The results from the original experiment should be used if ever needed.]]> 2017-10-13 18:07:52 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196929181 Elizabeth D'Antona https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196929421 I think these experiments are unethical. There definitely are crossing a line performing these experiments. I understand that people are curious about the outcome but I think people should volunteer if they want to have these experiments done to themselves. People shouldn't be forced to do them. Even though these experiments are inhuman, now that they have been done and we know the outcome of them, we don’t have to try them anymore.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:08:25 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196929421 Taylor Ciotta https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196930157 In my opinion I think all these experiments were wrong and dehumanizing. I do believe there is a line for benefiting society, but these experiments crossed the line. The line for benefiting our society should be drawn when it’s causing harm to another. Our society shouldn’t be acknowledging harm physically or mentally on anyone. All it is doing is showing how wrong and hurtful our human nature could really be. I don’t believe those type of experiments should be used on anyone in modern studies. But like I said it’s to an extent that experiments to be used.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:10:16 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196930157 Taylor Paxton 12302707 https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196931565 I feel like unethical experimentation can benefit society but at the same time it can’t. It showed us how messed up people can be. You shouldn’t be allowed to hurt people physically or mentally. With the prisoners and guards that should’ve been stopped because they just got lucky to have power. They went too far. If they are unethical they shouldn’t be allowed to be recognized as a legitimate because it wasn’t right. Scientifically it cannot help or benefit because it was not done right, but it can show us how people can react.]]> 2017-10-13 18:13:42 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196931565 Sam Nelson https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196931952 An unethical experiment can very much so benefit society. Yes there should be a line and that should come in when things start getting out of hand. But if you want to get answers to an experiment then you should at least get to the part where it starts to take affect. For example, during the shocking experiment, the higher force kept promising that there was no harm done and manipulating the person's brain into thinking they are ok. That just goes to show the human nature of things and how a person can easily be tricked into doing something. Results from unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate because it’s positive results that give out facts. ]]> 2017-10-13 18:14:45 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196931952 Maggie Costa https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196933076 Yes, unethical experimentation can benefit society, because we learn things from them and they can help other studies. Yes, there is a line, when people are hurt emotionally and physically that means that the experiment was taken to far. Results from unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate and used in studies because though they were unethical, they still got results and those results will help in studies.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:17:32 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196933076 GABE SMITH https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196933722 There is no unethical study that can benefit our society. They call it unethical for a reason. You draw the line where people start getting abused.It should be allowed for other studies or they did it in vain and for nothing.

]]> 2017-10-13 18:19:08 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196933722 Garrett Balog https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196935058 Yes, I believe unethical experiments can benefit society greatly. There is a line where you don’t cross, though that line is mostly a personal determination. For me that line comes mostly with children and innocent people, if someone is say condemned to death then there’s no reason we shouldn’t get information out of it. I believe that the results should be recognized as even if they’re considered done in harmful ways the results are still legitimate results and can be used for benefit. However if a study, ethical or not, is carried out poorly, as in the results have been tampered with or the experiment wasn’t seen all the way through, then it should not be considered legitimate.]]> 2017-10-13 18:22:43 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/196935058 Nicholas Cram https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197060765 In a way yes, because they can teach society not to repeat these actions because they have figured out that they are unethical. This also helps because it helps to prevent history from repeating itself, and to be aware for such things. I believe there is a line where no human being should ever be hurt on purpose, and they should know when to draw the line when the “subjects” refuse to do something or beg to stop. I think they should be recognized as legitimate, because it shows how the human body reacts to such experiments.

Link to work: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hq7DdI9GLHyn7LqT3y5LmsVrqS-QzNrVlw_QIjVOqwI/edit?usp=sharing]]> 2017-10-14 20:48:38 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197060765 Vandanaa Jayaprakash https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197063458 I think that unethical experiments can benefit the scientific part of society and perhaps help improve human health and anatomy. For example, the experimentation with people about sea water and twins sounds appealing to scientists to help find cures to a lot of various illnesses that occur among populations today. However, I also think that there should be a line drawn as to how extreme the experiments should be carried out. For example, ripping apart twins without anesthesia and their consent is plain torture.

These people did not volunteer for the test and having to find results through the suffering of others kills the purpose of the whole research. Thus, I don’t think that these results should be considered legitimate, because they came from people who have been put through severe circumstances, which most of the population don’t experience. Furthermore, these unethical studies should not be allowed in modern research, because that just encourages more tortureful experiments and the creation of an insecure society. Overall, experimentation can be carried out but it shouldn’t involve the total suffering of others.

Link to My Work: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O_5mIUdmuNfiTCmLyzCLHFfEKrSiBlfqStR6I6a-mjs/edit
Sorry! My pdf wouldn't upload despite multiple attempts!

]]> 2017-10-14 21:42:22 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197063458 Isabella Goebelt https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197064735 Unethical experimentation can benefit the society but that doesn't mean it's right. I feel like there is a line, when you're hurting someone and dehumanizing them that is too far. I do not think unethical experiments should be in modern studies because we shouldn't support what they're doing. If we use it in modern studies we are promoting the wrong they are doing.
This is the link, my pdf wouldn't upload.]]> 2017-10-14 22:07:55 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197064735 Sam Poulin https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197106364 I think that even though we don’t like it, the twisted experiments conducted during WWII have benefited our knowledge of the limits of the human body, and have in turn benefited society. I’m not defending what scientist like Mengel did, there is line to cross to go from ethical to out right horrendous (like these experiments), but I think we shouldn’t let the lives of so many go in vain, we should use that data to help make our lives safer, and we could use the information to save lives more live than were taken. I don’t think just because we don’t like these experiments, that we should write them off because they makes us feel depressed. If it uses the scientific method and can be peer reviewed, it’s science by definition. Now, do I think we should peer review these experiments or perform experiments like these today? Absolutely not. I do believe we should test the full limits of the human body, but only on people that give their consent, are paid for their time, and have the ability to walk away unharmed in the long term. If they do that, then they’re most likely ethical. I don’t know, it depends on the circumstances.

Link: https://docs.google.com/a/students.mgsd.k12.nc.us/document/d/1dUpmR9nwNGSYXTePdYeQ-oiGmK53EPlJK7wOwwMEtPE/edit?usp=sharing
Sorry, it wouldn't upload]]> 2017-10-15 12:23:29 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197106364 Brandon Sisouvong https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197149428 Unethical experimentation can benefit society by teaching us things that cannot be done that will not or will work as a result. It will also show us that it is wrong to experiment unethically because it results in suffering of patients. There is a line. One draws that line where harm is being done intentionally or when the patient refuses to do what is told. Results from unethical experiments should be recognized as legitimate and should be allowed used in modern studies because it shows how a majority of humanity takes advantage of power and that some may struggle to act upon once commanded to do something wrong.

https://docs.google.com/a/students.mgsd.k12.nc.us/document/d/1QzOp_OQnZEwlfrzAs0ytii4uJ32LUeLpF_La0z-O5_w/edit?usp=sharing]]> 2017-10-15 19:16:49 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197149428 Hailey Picciano https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197151550 Even though all of these experiments are extremely unethical I think our society can learn from them. From these experiments we see that most people will do what they’re being told if they feel threatened or obligated to. I think this result is legitimate in modern day too because even now if you are feel obligated to do something, you do it.

https://docs.google.com/a/students.mgsd.k12.nc.us/document/d/1KOYEr09ls8_M9FJiA-vhIrLDz2BYBSQnqvJBAObXf0o/edit?usp=sharing

]]> 2017-10-15 19:36:47 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197151550 Taylor Vacanti https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197177431 These experiments were unethical, they can benefit society yet to a certain line. I believe they were trying to find out more about diseases and human nature, however people did not volunteer for the experiments and making them suffer to the point of death wasn’t right. You also have to think about the people in charge didn’t know what they were doing was wrong. They thought about doing experiments for a greater scientific benefit. All they saw of the jews were experiments and recruits, they didn’t think of the jews as humans, and they let their power over rule themselves. In modern studies people do see a line, and they do not go over it. I don’t believe it should not be used in modern studies, if it's “morally incorrect” what’s the point of doing them now. We do numerous experiments everyday, but they are beneficial.

The pdf wasn't working]]> 2017-10-15 23:35:47 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197177431 Damien Gonzalez https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197186457 I think that you should only go certain ways for unethical experiments. I definitely believe that their is a line between these experiments. I honestly don’t think they should force others do anything. I feel like that you can still study these things just in a different and proper way. Without killing or putting people in pain. I think that would be more ethical for others and for the environment.

]]> 2017-10-16 01:00:29 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197186457 Christopher Sabb https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197198460 Unethical experimentation can benefit society but there is a line, and that line must be drawn where a person, who hadn’t provided their consent or known the full consequences of the experiment being performed, could get seriously hurt or have long-lasting health effects, i.e mental instability. Unethical experimentation can benefit society because it can bring forth answers to questions and problems that weren’t previously known. And, the results from these experiments should be seen as legitimate as they were actual studies and provided concrete answers regarding human behavior and physiology, they should not, however, be permitted to occur again and they shouldn’t be repeated.

Regarding the scientists who did these things, they were either unaware of what they were doing was wrong, they were scared of refusing to do the experiments, or they just enjoyed. If it is the final one, then they’re just scummy people. However, if it’s the former and the latter, then they were unaware that they were committing atrocious experiments and they just saw Jews, who weren’t respected and were seen as sub humans by some people. They thought they were doing experiments for the greater good of humanity and scientific knowledge. Also, if they knew what the Nazis had been doing, then they’d be terrified of not doing these experiments for them and feared what would happen to them if they didn’t. Luckily, today, there are lines established and experiments like these, probably, won’t occur again.

Here's a link to the Google Document: http://tinyurl.com/y8vvwyfp

Here's a PDF version of the document:

]]> 2017-10-16 02:26:36 UTC https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197198460 Ryan Jackson https://padlet.com/bethanysmith/kfgtgax4u9o1/wish/197988505 Unethical experimentation can benefit society, even though it is wrong we can still learn from these experiments. We can experiment on people and learn how our body handles certain things. There is a line drawn. We can’t just kill people to learn something, but they need permission or consent on what the scientist are going to do to people. Results should be legitimate as we can learn things from these experiments.

https://docs.google.com/a/students.mgsd.k12.nc.us/document/d/1VDHzov77ihZYqd9iqdhJ4VGaV3rK6uyLasXmhBvI8a0/edit?usp=sharing

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