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      <title>Hour 3    _Ch. 22 and Whole Book Discussion by Kelsey Del Ponte</title>
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      <pubDate>2022-12-16 16:41:27 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Steven Reinke</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The title is ironic because it is called the lives of the dead. Obviously if they're dead, they have no life. It connects to Kiowa, he died in the war, but O'Brien keeps him "alive" by telling all about him. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:26:02 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Alexa O&#39;Dell</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The symbol of darkness stood out to me the most. I think that the symbol of darkness means that war will take away the brightness and happiness you had and after you're in the darkness it's hard to go back into the light like when Rat Kiley was in the darkness and ended up shooting himself in the foot to try to get out. The larger meaning to this is that you have never seen true darkness until you're in it.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:26:10 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Steven Reinke</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The loss that I felt the most was Kiowa, I felt for him the most because O'Brien goes into such intense detail about what happened. Like how he was trying to get him out of the field and couldn't, so he just let him sink. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:28:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Aliseah Senart</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>the loss that I felt most affected by in the novel was the killing of the puppy that Ted Lavender adopted. this loss was profound to me because the puppy didn't have the chance to live or leave the war. the puppy was stuck in the war hopeless and then dead. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:28:45 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Marina Persik</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The significance of the chapter name is to show the importance of the people who have died. It lists off all the people who he was close to and have passed. Linda's story connects to the soldiers at war because it highlights the abruptness of death. Tim O'Brien states, "She lived through summer into the first part of September, and then she was dead."(224). This quote expresses how no one can know for sure when someones time is up. Linda was only 9 years old, relating to thr soldiers young age when they had to face war. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:29:22 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Carley Miller</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424920170</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>In the book "The Things They Carried", O'Brien has a scene where Rat Kiley burtally and continually shoots a baby water buffalo. O'Brien writes "He put the rifle muzzle up against the mouth and shot the mouth away". This part was meant to make the audience feel sad. It was meant to be something your stomach believes. O'Brien wrote this part in for your sense of empathy and the lack of it we have towards the men who get blown up by booby traps, or sunken in by shit fields. I would argue that the lack of humanity seen by the soldiers is evident in <em>our</em> lack of empathy towards the&nbsp;soldiers. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:29:23 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Jordan Kardelis </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424920965</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The story about Linda relates to how the men from the war don't have to say anything they just have a certain understanding. When he was telling the story he said: " Neither of us, I suppose, would've thought to use the word, love but by the fact of not looking at each other, and not talking, we understood with a clarity beyond language that we were sharing something huge and permanent."(218). This relates to the guys in his platoon and the bond they have created because they have this permanent and great understanding of each other and what they have experienced that no one else will understand. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:30:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Evan Christie</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424921223</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>Personally I fell like the death that affected the most people in the book was Kiowa's. I think this because it was mutual everyone could blame themselves for it and it had the biggest impact for all the characters. (162) "Kiowa had been combine with the waste and war. My own fault, he would say". this shows how all of them could blame them self for kiowa's death.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:30:31 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Sebastian Rader</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424922239</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>This chapter is the last chapter of the book because O'brien wants the reader to understand what it felt like to be a soldier. Throughout the book, O'brien establishes that one cannot understand war without actually being in it. By making this chapter more relatable through focusing on Linda's death, the reader can better understand the pain of losing someone very suddenly and without warning. O'brien demonstrates this in the scene where he learns about Linda's death, "All I could do was nod. Somehow it didn't quite register. I turned away, glanced down at my hands for a second, then walked home without telling anyone"(224). This shows the emotion involved with sudden death in a more real world situation that the reader can better understand and allows O'brien to get his point across more efficiently.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:31:19 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>JT Brandstatter</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Kiowa's death created a traumatic event for Tim. In the chapter "In The Field" O'Brien says, "His son Kowa had been combined with the waste and the war. My own fault, he would say" (162). This quote proves that Tim says that he is responsible for the death of his platoon member Kiowa. It also says, "It wasn't to defend himself. The boy recognized his own guilt and wanted only to lay out the full causes" (163). Here again, the narrator continues to punish himself for this death. The rest of the chapter plays out with the severity of this death and how much of a burden this was put on each character including Tim.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:31:32 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Tyler Mouradian</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424922705</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>O'Brien's message about the power of memory and stories is that by telling people these stories of what went wrong by telling them if they decide to enlist in the army that they will think back on learning about those stories and will be a difference maker and do the opposite of what the person telling the story did so that they are able to save lives and win awards for things that they do unlike norman bowker not winning the last award.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:31:49 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew Reinsel</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The Lives of the Dead is the final chapter of the book because it goes on to sum up his experience in Vietnam and explain how he managed to deal with the tragedy. The story of Linda is serving to explain how to soldiers death just isn't quite real. The dead and fallen in Vietnam lived on in stories and memories. as shown in the quote. "We kept the dead alive with stories . When Ted lavender was shot in the head the men talked about how theyd never seen him so mellow." This goes on to show how the soldiers preserve life by telling tales.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:31:52 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Drake.locke</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424923294</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>i think i felt most affected when Azar taped a mine to the dog and blew it up i felt it really showed the cruelty of man.  </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:32:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Ellie Cohen </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424923400</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>O'brien's message about the power of memory and stories is that it can be a way of healing, and coping with trauma. This connects to the suicide of Norman Bowker as well because he didn't deal with his trauma in the way that Tim did, and that cost him his life. O'brien says, "I'll never die. I'm skimming across the surface of my own history, moving fast, riding the melt beneath the blades, doing loops and spins, and when I take a high leap into the dark and come down thirty years later, I realize it as Tim trying to save Timmy's life with a story" (233). He is saying how he went through this traumatic experience as a young boy (Timmy), and how dealing with it is not linear and can be rough, but telling people his story and facing the truth of what happened has saved the life of who he is now. Also, he mentions how he does "loops" and "spins" and that can connect to Norman because he drove in circles and never really stopped spinning from the war, and since Norman wasn't alive to cope by telling his story, O'brien told it for him. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:32:28 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Daniel Kurer</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424923951</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>I felt worst about Kiowa's death due to the extreme detail in the scene and the descriptions on how most of the soldiers blame themselves for different reasons, like letting go of him, turning on the flashlight, and Cross stationing them in the field. We got to see exactly how his death put emotional burdens on everyone around him since he was a good man.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:33:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Alexa O&#39;Dell</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424924170</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The loses that most effected me were the little puppy and Mary-Annes death. These effected me the most because neither of them did anything wrong. They also both meant a lot to the characters that lost them. Mary-Annes effected me because hers never had a true ending she was just gone and nobody knows what happened. The puppy effected me because I think the puppy is a symbol of what happens to people at war, they go in young and innocent and aren't ready for what war will bring and will end up dead in the end.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:33:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Mia Roper </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424924294</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>In this chapter, the title is ironic because dead people cannot have lived if they are dead and not living anymore. The stories, O'Brien creates these lives for the dead. They are telling stories of when dead ones had passed, "Often they were exaggerated, or blatant lies, but it ways a way of bringing body and soul back together, or a way of making new bodies for the souls to inhabit"(226). This shows how the storytelling for these soldiers was so important so they did not feel like they lost someone forever, and they could always bring them back with the stories that they told.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:33:23 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Aliseah Senart</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424925065</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>"The Lives of the Dead" is the last chapter of the book to show how death can stick with someone alive. Linda's story related to the experiences of soldiers in war because they are all like children themselves with no choice but to go into war just like linda didn't choose cancer. it shows how linda hid her cancer with the hat the soldiers are hiding the losses of their friends. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:34:03 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Skyler Lindsey</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424925228</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>O'Brien shows that stories and memories are powerful enough to keep the dead alive. Tim says, "To listen to the story, especially as Rat Kiley told it, you'd never know that Curt Lemon was dead" (227). Before this line, Rat is telling a story about Curt trick-or-treating on Halloween night. Rat is keeping his memory alive but only sharing the good things about his life, not getting into the death part. And with Norman Bowkers death, Tim did the same thing with writing a story on him to keep him living.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:34:15 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Evan Christie</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424926401</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>I feel like it relates to the experience of war because it show what tim o'brien went through and why he remember all of the people that died and how the memories of them and their lives become an item that he carries. (215) "they lifted their canteens and drank the old man's family" this symbolises that the people from war will always live inside their spirit.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:35:32 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Grace Co</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424926643</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>This title is ironic because people who are dead no longer have lives since they are dead. O'Brain most likely means that memories and stories can almost bring a person to life in a way- as if you were there with them. This is also shown by the statement "That's what a story does. The bodies are animated. You make the dead talk." (Pg. 219 Chapter 22)</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:35:49 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Zach Buxengard</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424926851</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>in this chapter the lives of the dead could mean multiple things but the main part it means it that everyone has lost part of their life in the war even if it is not your death.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:35:59 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>JT Brandstatter</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424926974</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>O'Briens creates a similarity to Linda as to the men during the war. Tim states in chapter 22, "They're all dead. But in a story, which is kind of dreaming, the dead sometimes smile and sit up and return to the world" (213). Linda explains how the death of these soldiers wasn't real and how they continued to live on. But this also does a good job of showing the emotional attachment they had with each platoon member. Being able to joke with each other after losing a member proves the bond they created is the same to the bond with Linda </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:36:06 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Sebastian Rader</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The death of Kiowa stood out to me the most. Most of the other characters hadn't been too relevant to the story, nor did they show much personality up until their death. Kiowa was the most established character among the characters that died in this book. Throughout the story, O'Brien had said that he was very kind and showed this through the dialogue between him and other characters. Without much character development for the others that died, Kiowa seemed to be the most important death.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:36:13 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Tyler Mouradian</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424927229</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The death that most people were affected by  was Kiowa's because all of the soldiers feel like it was there fault that Kiowa died and they feel like there was something they could have done to prevent Kiowa dying so they all feel that it's their individually fault for him dying because they could have prevented him dying.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:36:22 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew Reinsel</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424928896</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>One of the largest symbols in the book is Mary Ann. She represents the change and transformation that the war brought on the young men who fought in it. As Rat says when he tells the story "Was what happened to all of them . You come over clean and you get dirty and then afterward its never the same"  Mary Ann came over to Vietnam as an innocent civilian but slowly and over time she began to learn more and more about the war and the country before eventually she was unrecognizable to her old self and a soldier in the war.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:37:49 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Evan Murray</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424929760</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The title of the 22nd chapter "Lives of the Dead" is ironic because while they may be dead in real life, those people can still live on in the memories of those close to them.  O'Brien states that "And yet right here, in the spell of memory and imagination, I can still see her as if through ice, as if I'm gazing into some other world." (232). This quotations show that while people may not be physically live in the real world, those that are close to the dead recreate those memories in order to make that person seem alive again, which would show why the chapter's name is "Lives of the Dead" because they still live on even after death in the minds of others.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:38:37 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Carley Miller</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The title "Lives of the Dead" is ironic because O'Brien <em>creates</em> the lives for the dead. He finds them in stories and creates new memories that he struggles to differ from real events. That's why you can never trust a true war story. For example, O'Brien says "I invented my own dreams" (230). He imagined a life with these people, like Linda, and Kiowa, and Ted Lavender. He dreamed of a better life for them so he created one for them. O'Brien brought their presence back with stories so their memory was never lost.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:38:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Tristan Dickey</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>This title is ironic because the dead has no life, they're just dead. Tim O'Brien says, "We could almost see Ted Lavender's dreamy blue eyes. We could almost hear him." (219). This thought makes the title connect to the characters in the book that died, specifically Kiowa and Linda by having their names and stories about them being mentioned and talked about so often. This gives a sort of life to the characters, even though they are dead talking about them in stories makes them feel as though they are right there and alive.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:39:03 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Drake.Locke</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>i think O,brain barely mentions azar because<br>of all the things azar had said and done but i believe one can infer that O,brain couldn't be bothered with azar ecspschily after kiawahs death.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Jordan Kardelis </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>A death that affected them the most was Kiowa. When Tim O'Brien goes back to visit the war site he also goes to remember Kiowa when he says: ... and in the end, I decided to take her to this piece of ground where my friend Kiowa had died. It seemed appropriate. And, besides, I had business here. This shows&nbsp;how even 20 years later, married, has a kid, and feels the guilt of what happened here. </div>]]></description>
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         <title>Ellie Cohen </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think the symbols of weather stand out to me the most throughout the book. O'brien added specific details about the weather a lot, but the one that I think had the biggest meaning was the rain. While telling the story of the shit field O'brien says, "The rains had fallen without stop, and the Song Tra Bong had overflowed its banks, and the muck had now risen thigh-deep in the field along the river...The rain was a war and you had to fight it" (155-156). The rain is a symbol for the war and the burdens from war. They had to "fight" the rain and they had to keep pushing through it even though it was making them miserable. It also says how the rain keeps rising, and that's symbolizing how the war makes them feel as if they are drowning and can't catch a break. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:42:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>karter seawright</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>personally, i think that the title of this chapter relates to many big ideas, its ironic to the story because Kiowa had died but during this hole time period they treat him as alive, and reminiscing his death. "Im young and happy. Ill never die."(233). this shows that even when your not able to be present loved ones will always have you be their side.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Mia Roper</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424933490</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>In the book, The Things They Carried, O'Brien shows the tragedy and the soldiers immune of war by the dead baby. Rat Kiley and others were walking through the forest, "A Vietnamese baby, which lay nearby, was a roasted peanut. "Just a crunchie munchie," Rat Kiley said as he stepped over the body"(226) This shows the readers how immune to war these soldiers are if they don't care that a poor baby is lying there dead. This also shows to readers this was how war was like. It was not fun and they so dead bodies everywhere they went.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:42:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Skyler Lindsey</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think the death that most affected the novel was the death of Kiowa in the shit field. When Tim takes his daughter to revisit the field he explains how that night in war he lost, "My best friend. My pride. My belief in myself as a man of some small dignity and courage" (176). Not only Tim, but also a few other characters blame themselves for the death of Kiowa. And it's so much more than just losing a fellow soldier, many felt they had also lost themselves that night. The traumatic experience of not being able to save Kiowa will continue to haunt them.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:43:08 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Daniel Kurer</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424934580</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The ironic part of the title is that the dead don't have lives anymore. O'brien states "We kept the dead alive with stories"(226). They do this in order to relieve some emotional burdens, as the death of their friends is tough to handle. In telling the stories, they can think about their friend's lives instead of their deaths, making them less depressed and burdened.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:43:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Marina Persik</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424935906</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The symbol that stood out to me most in the text was the repitition of the word butterfly. O'Brien uses this symbol when someone or something is at peace. For example, after Tim kills the man in the forest, the text says, "The butterfly was making its way along thr young man's forehead, which was spotted with small dark freckles."(121). This showcases the reoccurance of this symbol for peace and tranquility. Although this man was killed, he was freed from war. Later it says, "The butterfly was gone. The bleeding has stopped except for the neck wounds."(123).&nbsp; This exemplifies the significance of how the man was done bleeding and tranquil. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:44:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Zach Buxengard</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>one of the biggest and most used symbols in the start of the book was the death of dead lavender. this death was talked about allot because Cross thought it was his fault and ended up changing his life and how he spent his time in nam even though it was not truly his fault. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:45:04 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Grace Co</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424939534</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>There were several losses in the books- but the ones I felt most affected by were Ted Lavenders and Kiowas. When kiowa died it was because of a simple mistake- turning on a flashlight. When Lavender died it wasn't really because of anything- he was killed going back from the bathroom. His death shows that the war is an extremely dangerous place and you can get killed doing almost anything. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:48:17 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Tristan Dickey</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424939767</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The loss that I felt most affected by was Kiowa's. In the chapter "The field trip" O'Brien says, "...I looked for signs of forgiveness or personal grace." (173). This is showing that Tim felt guilty or responsible for Kiowa's death and still is affected by it years and years after. Kiowa is also the character that many people in the platoon seemed to like and were deeply affected by his death. Jimmy Cross contemplated on writing the letter for a long, long time and Norman Bowker felt so guilty about it that he hung himself. What also makes it very traumatic is the fact that the shit field is associated with his death, the smell brings back memories of the moment and everyone has a hard time talking about the shit field because of Kiowa's death.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:48:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Elana Blawat</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424939910</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The title connects to the characters in the book because most of the people in his stories are dead so those stories are about their lives. "Kiowa came up and asked if he could sit in my foxhole for a minute" (215). Kiowa died in the shit field a few chapters ago but now he's telling readers about a conversation they had which was part of &nbsp;Kiowa's life. "Linda nodded at me. she was standing under a yellow streetlight" (225). He spends many pages talking about Linda and her life and then later goes on to talk about how he still sees her even though she's dead which in a way gives her another life.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:48:42 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Evan Murray</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424941924</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>Throughout the novel, the losses of different characters most affected the novel because as more characters lost their lives in the war, it slowly changed how O'Brien and the other soldiers outwardly felt about the war along with also changing their personalities over time.  O'Brien states that "He wiped his eyes and spoke very quietly, as if awed by his own wisdom.  'Death sucks,' he said." (230).  This quotations shows how Mitchell Sanders in the beginning of the book was a confident man and didn't shy away when faced with deadly situations, but towards the end of the book, all the deaths he witnessed along with all the dead bodies he's moved brought him to the point where he's lost his confident in the face of death.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:50:44 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>karter seawright</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424942653</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>me personally the death i found most profound was Kiowas death. this because of how close he actually was with everybody in his team. so much that his leader lieutenant cross&nbsp;even went as far as blaming himself for Kiowas death. "except this isn't for real." this is lieutenant cross not really quite comprehending Kiowas death yet.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:51:26 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Elana Blawat</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2424948783</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>the loses that affected me the most were the animal deaths. these affected me because the animals weren't fighting in the war and had nothing to do with the violence so they should have been left alone. also I like animals which is why it bothers me when they're killed for no reason.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-19 15:57:02 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>cayden felton</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2426097238</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>Norman Bowker drove clockwise around the lake because he is having hard time with adjusting back to normal life. Norman 'takes the chevy, as if in orbit, on another seven mile turn around the lake¨ (133). </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-20 19:14:17 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>cayden felton </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/kelsey_delponte/kcy107iov7jgxbzf/wish/2426099316</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>because its talking&nbsp; about bead people and beusec it toke about beied that come back to life.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-12-20 19:16:55 UTC</pubDate>
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