Group 4 by https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2 Let's talk en-us 2020-04-30 14:14:53 UTC 2020-05-08 14:44:57 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f914.png liesbethvmaele https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/545550807 Discuss the following questions:
1)  Should we change our education system after Corona or go back to the way it was?
2) Are young adults less romantic than past generations?]]> 2020-05-02 13:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/545550807 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559347284 Over the last few weeks, the corona virus has changed our education system. Personally, I think it has some advantages but also a lot of disadvantages. Students will ask fewer questions to teachers because this has to be done via the computer. This makes it more difficult to understand the subject matter in detail. Also, not every family has enough laptops for all their children, so they can't follow the lessons and fall behind in their learning. The level of the lessons decreases by teaching online, deepening of the subject matter is skipped because there is simply no time for it. That's why I think it's important that we return to the old system as soon as possible. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:13:05 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559347284 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559352496 On the other hand, there is also an advantage to teaching online and that is that students have more free time and learn to become more independent. It might be a good idea for students in their final year of secondary school to have one day a week of online teaching in preparation for college or university.]]> 2020-05-08 09:16:04 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559352496 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559382543  
The school system now has its advantages and disadvantages. I think that through online teaching far fewer questions are asked about the subject matter that is not understood. It's easier to ask questions in person where you can go straight into discussion instead of sending all those emails with questions that take up a lot of time for both parties. I do find it an advantage that we now have much more time to process the subject matter at our own pace. It's also a good exercise for next year when we have to work more independently, because we are now learning that step by step very well. 

]]> 2020-05-08 09:33:23 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559382543 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559393592 1) Because of the world-famous Coronavirus, our lives have come to a standstill. We all have to stay in our shacks and we don't have lessons at school anymore. The school has of course found a solution for this, we now have online lessons. From next week the schools can open again. The big question is how the lessons will go, what is allowed and what is not. Because of the online lessons, we have not seen everything of certain subjects, which may lead to a loss of subject matter. I personally think that the school should consider the fact that a lot of lessons have been dropped and that this cannot be caught up with very quickly. There are also students who learn more easily at school than at home in front of their computer, so they might not score as well now. That's why I think the school should take all these things into account. It would also be necessary to adjust the learning system, and see what is possible and feasible for the students themselves. The best thing to do is to use the old system as the students are used to it. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:39:37 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559393592 kjenta_barremaecker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559396358 I completely agree with you (Lynn Loos). Indeed, students are now less likely to ask the teacher questions. Sometimes it is easier if you can ask the questions directly in front of the teacher and not via chat or video conversation because then you can show them which part of the subject you do not understand. In addition, the shortage of computers has been a problem in many families. Fortunately, the government came up with the initiative to collect computers for those families that did not have enough laptops.]]> 2020-05-08 09:41:12 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559396358 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559410130 QUESTION 1

Personally, I don't mind getting lessons this way. Of course we lose a lot of lessons. I like lessons like math, english and french because the subject matter is not that difficult and I understand it well. Other subjects such as geography and natural sciences are very difficult to follow through online lessons. It is certainly difficult if the teacher talks for an hour at a time. Unfortunately we can't do anything about it, just hope that corona will disappear soon.]]> 2020-05-08 09:49:20 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559410130 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559411853 I agree with Lynn, as I also mentioned, there are students who find it harder to study on a computer than in a real classroom. It is certainly true that there are students who don't have a computer at home at all and then this is not possible for them to take lessons online at all. I partly agree with her advantage to teach online, this only applies to a group of students who are able to do so. This is certainly not the majority. It is indeed a good system for smart students who understand everything and can work independently. This is not good for students who have not mastered the subject matter. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:50:09 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559411853 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559414174 QUESTION 1

Maybe we can do more online lessons in the future but for that everyone needs a personal laptop. Many people have a few laptops but some only have one computer so this would be difficult for poor families. On top of that, another disadvantage is the social contact we will miss. When you are in a classroom you have a lot of social contact with your classmates. Moreover, I agree with @Britt. That rings true for me: I also learn easier at school than online because it is easier to ask questions (in real-life).]]> 2020-05-08 09:51:32 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559414174 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559414390 QUESTION 1

I fully agree with @Lore and @Lynn. I also think it's a good exercise for next year and maybe the school can make sure that all sixth year students get 1 day a week of online lessons to prepare them for next year. Thanks to the online lessons we learn to be responsible. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559414390 kjenta_barremaecker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559416453 Because of the coronavirus, the lessons were abolished from March 16th, this means that we have been home for 8 weeks already. Now we have online lessons in which there is no interaction between the teacher and the students. In my opinion, this is very important. In this way, the teacher can know if the students understand the material and if they are actively working on it. Moreover, students cannot do experiments from home for science subjects, such as chemistry. I hold the same opinion @ Lynn, Thomas and Lore. Furthermore, I also miss sitting in class with my girlfriends and eating together in the afternoon. If we had online classes all the time, none of this would be possible anymore. I think a lot of people like to go to school because then they see their friends. In addition to these disadvantages, we are indeed learning to become more independent. So these weeks of online lessons are good preparation for next year. Overall, I think we should go back to the way it was.

]]> 2020-05-08 09:52:56 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559416453 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559418377 I agree with Britt. There are parts of the subject matter that we don't see now and may be important for later studies, so we may be lagging behind. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559418377 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559422301 To pick up on what Thomas said about online classes in the future, perhaps it would be an option for the school to lend notebooks to students without laptops. I also agree with Lore that we may be lagging behind,  but I think the universities are going to take this into account next year. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:56:07 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559422301 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559429546 Nor is it good for our health to spend so many hours a day sitting at a computer and staring at a screen. Especially people who suffer from e.g. migraine will find it even more difficult.]]> 2020-05-08 10:00:16 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559429546 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559430358 2020-05-08 10:00:45 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559430358 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559433470 About the fact that everyone needs their own laptop I fully agree with thomas. Some students don't have their own laptop, which makes it much more complicated to follow the lessons, especially if you're not the only child in the family. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:02:46 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559433470 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559433749 QUESTION 2

I find that younger couples are less romantic because I feel that they give up a relationship faster now. I once saw a quote pass by on Twitter and I thought it was beautifully written: "When a vase broke, we glued the piece back together again. Now they're throwing the vase right away."]]> 2020-05-08 10:02:56 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559433749 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559437118 QUESTION 2

I always like it when I see that couples have been married for years and still love each other. I also saw a post on Facebook in which there was a video of an old couple dying in each other's arms. As sad as this is, it is heartwarming to see them die together.]]> 2020-05-08 10:04:55 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559437118 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559441024 I agree with you Thomas,  but I don't think you should generalize the quote about the vase. A century ago, relationships may have lasted longer, but this was because of the church, for example. When people broke up then this was seen as a bad thing. Now people don't see it that way anymore.]]> 2020-05-08 10:07:27 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559441024 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559445336 I agree with Lynn. Marriage used to be something very special, this breaking up was a bad thing. This was because people attach much more importance to the church. Now some people say this is just a piece of paper.]]> 2020-05-08 10:10:15 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559445336 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559448215 I also think that what we see as a "romantic gesture" has changed. Some things that used to be done have now been replaced by a more modern version. For example, love letters used to be written but now this has been replaced by a I love your bedtime message.]]> 2020-05-08 10:12:01 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559448215 lynn_loos https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559455649 The upbringing of young people has also changed, it used to be very important that a boy was a real gentleman and that a girl could be a good housewife. But in recent decades, with the rise of feminism, the roles have become more equal and the romantic idea of a prince charming saving a woman has also changed.]]> 2020-05-08 10:16:27 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559455649 kjenta_barremaecker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559456090 I agree with you(Thomas) up to a point. I think people break up faster now than they did in previous generations. The difference lies in the fact that marriage used to be something very important. When couples used to divorce, they were ashamed of that. It was a disgrace to the church. Today, most couples break up because their love is gone and they want to let go of each other. It may sound a bit cliché, but love is also partly about letting go. So, I hold the same opinion as Lore and Lynn.]]> 2020-05-08 10:16:45 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559456090 kjenta_barremaecker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559473736 I see it that way too @ Lynn. In the past, it used to take more effort to send a gesture of love. Writing a beautiful letter takes a lot of time, and it took a few days before the letter reached the receiver. Nowadays it only takes a few seconds to send a text message and not much later the recipient receives the message.]]> 2020-05-08 10:28:01 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559473736 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559476023 Speak for yourself @Lynn and @Lore, but I disagree strongly with the fact that you are saying that a break up is not a bad thing anymore! ]]> 2020-05-08 10:29:19 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559476023 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559481173 I go along with the view of @Lynn and @Kjenta that some things that used to be done have now been replaced by a more modern version. However, I prefer old-fashioned love letters to modern love-messages.]]> 2020-05-08 10:32:42 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559481173 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559488307 I'm sorry Thomas, but I didn't say that. It's about the fact that people attach less importance to the church and what people think of them. I'm not saying I don't mind people breaking up.]]> 2020-05-08 10:37:28 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559488307 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559489921 @Lore You are right, I'm sorry]]> 2020-05-08 10:38:35 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559489921 lore_vanholderbeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559495357 Thomas never mind, I forgive you :)]]> 2020-05-08 10:41:54 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559495357 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559512273 2) My opinion is that there is romance in all generations. There's no age on love. I do think that things have changed in recent years in dealing with love. All stories from the past are about people who live happily ever after. This is also the case in fairy tales. In this 21st century I personally think it's easier to talk about things than it used to be, if you don't feel good in a relationship you can just say so. While some women probably didn't dare in the old days. Times have changed, everything is more discussable, so sometimes couples decide to spit. So don't think they're more romantic in previous generations. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:53:37 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559512273 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559517585 I fully understand Thomas about the fact that more couples break up now than in previous generations. This is what is happening more and more but as Lynn says from a go is not always a bad thing, it can be that people come out of this better. It can also happen that they get along better than before. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559517585 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559518403 @Britt I couldn't agree with you more: everything is more discussable.]]> 2020-05-08 10:58:19 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559518403 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559521349 @Thomas Yeah, well, it's something that's not nice when people break up in some cases. It may also be that it is better for both people not to be together anymore. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:00:29 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559521349 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559526389 I agree with you all, because I think you can be romatic in different ways. Some like old-fashioned writing and eating together at a restaurant. Others then hold more to perform their hobbies together. It is a subject on which there can be many discussions. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:03:59 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559526389 fien_vanacker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559531970 I go along with Lynn's argument (question 1). Pre-teaching does have its advantages, but of course it has its disadvantages. It helps students to work more independently. There will always be people who understand certain topics more quickly than others. Through online lessons it is more difficult for students who are less likely to master something. So I agree with the fact that we have to return to the old system. This pandemic is of course an exception and we weren't prepared for this so we did miss out on a lot of lessons. But we can learn from this and indeed use online lessons to prepare students in their final year. For example 1 or 2 online lessons a week so students become more independent. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:08:23 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559531970 fien_vanacker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559545885 I also fully agree with Thomas (question 1). Not everyone has a laptop at home for every member of the family. Sometimes the internet doesn't want to cooperate or the programs everyone uses are overcrowded. Or the teacher's sound or camera doesn't work. These are all disadvantages of online lessons. But what Lynn said is a good solution that the school lend notebooks to students without laptops. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:18:24 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559545885 fien_vanacker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559562606 I don't think young adults are less romantic than past generations but I think they're romantic in another way. In past generations there were no electronic devices so if you wanted to see each other you had to agree in advance or just drop by yourself. They wrote love letters to each other which is of course super romantic. But now we do this by computer or mobile phone. So I agree with Lynn that those letters been replaced by a modern version. Yes, this is less romantic but thats depends on person to person. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:30:07 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559562606 kjenta_barremaecker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559563245 I see what you mean and I (must) agree with you @ Fien. Sometimes the internet doesn't work properly and then you can't follow the online lesson. This causes you to lag behind and therefore not follow what you have seen. Fortunately, this problem can be solved quickly by recording the online lessons. The image and sound quality of the teachers' computers are not always good, but the pupils cannot change much about that. So this can cause difficulties.

]]> 2020-05-08 11:30:38 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559563245 fien_vanacker https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559605202 The church used to be very important in those times. So I agree with the facts of Lore, Lynn and Kjenta. Divorce was a disgrace for the church. It doesn't mean that divorce is good for the church now, but people attach less importance to it than before. As Lore says, to a lot of people it's just a piece of paper. ]]> 2020-05-08 11:59:54 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559605202 britt_vanhollebeke https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559694253 Yes i agree with Fien, a lot of people used to marry because God wanted it that way. Then the faith in the catholic church was stronger than now, you used to have a lot more people going to mass. Today the church is less popular. The older people say that the younger ones get married and that they are not attached to God, where I can certainly earn a living. But I also think today that you don't have to get married to show that you like each other. People can choose if they marry for the church or marry for the law or not marry at all. You can love someone for the rest of your life without getting married. ]]> 2020-05-08 12:52:37 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559694253 thomas_cornillie1 https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559966478 @Britt That's exactly how I feel about getting married: you can love someone (forever) without getting married.]]> 2020-05-08 14:44:57 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvmaele/kccymh5pywsi2jv2/wish/559966478