Chapter 2 of The Great Gatsby by msward https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2 AFTER READING CHAPTER 2: You need to contribute to at least two of the columns below. Simply double click to add your comment, question, or quotation. Don't forget to add you name to your post! THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS TO THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE! Use your arrows to move your screen to the right. en-us 2019-01-29 13:35:17 UTC 2025-12-09 15:16:44 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-uploads.storage.googleapis.com/97492/aaee30c4e70f44edb09322532aa1bd49/Gatsby.jpg Rilynn White https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668482970 Chapter 2 was quite a confusing chapter. I am wondering why Tom takes Nick to see his mistress. Why do they get a dog? Why does Tom hit Myrtle? What exactly happens during the ellipses at the end of the chapter? What is the whole deal with the "no divorce" situation? Why does Tom not leave Daisy?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:35:34 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668482970 Emma https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668483207 Myrtle might want a dog for protection and a feeling of power in the new apartment.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:35:47 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668483207 Izzy Lark https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668484036 Nick didn't leave the party probably because he thought it would have been rude to just leave after being invited to the party because on pg. 28 Tom says, "Myrtle'll be hurt if you don't come up to the apartment.."

]]> 2025-11-05 18:36:16 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668484036 Sophia Weiland https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668484490 Page 37 "...Tom Buchanan broke her nose with his open hand... Then Mr. McKee turned and continued on out the door. Taking my hat from the chandelier, I followed."

]]> 2025-11-05 18:36:33 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668484490 Kylie Walker https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485150 I have learned that Daisy and Tom's relationship is really two sided. I think Tom is abusive to Daisy like how she showed how he hurt her on her finger because it wouldn't be as noticeable. Tom would not slap daisy across the face because then society would see that and suspect him of doing it.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:36:55 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485150 Gage https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485211 Because she might want a companion when she's home alone

]]> 2025-11-05 18:36:58 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485211 Zoe Peterson https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485354 I have learned that Daisy and Tom may only be together just because of their loyalty and respect toward eachother. I think this because it mentions that Tom has "Side chicks" often.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:37:04 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485354 cole https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485431 when Nick introduces the valley of ashes he uses gray and dark colors to describe it saying "above the gray land and the spasms of bleak dust which drift endlessly over it." (23)

]]> 2025-11-05 18:37:07 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668485431 Emma https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486415 Dr. Ecklberg's blue eyes could be a representation of a higher power watching over and providing judgments. It also may be helping add description to the desolate and abandoned aspects of the Valley of Ash.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:37:55 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486415 Rilynn White https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486546 T. J. Eckleburg seems like an important and strong industrial figure in the Valley of Ashes. His eyes represent the watchful power he has over this land of moral corruption and poverty.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:02 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486546 Khaula Bentaher https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486676 Questions I have about the events in this chapter have to do with Tom hitting Myrtle. Why? How does this give him power? What does it do for him other than asserting his dominence and displaying at how bad of a lover he is? There is more to this.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486676 Zoe Peterson https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486684 I think that Nick didnt leave the party because he came with Tom and he doesnt want to upset Myrtle of Tom so he stays to be kind.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486684 Lucas Giles https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486980 Daisy and Tom Buchanan have an odd relationship. Daisy knows she is being cheated on but she still stays with him because he has money and she needs to be able to support her daughter. Tom likes to show that he has power. He abuses both Daisy and Myrtle, Daisy on her pinky and Myrtle by breaking her nose. He doesn't abuse Daisy as much because Daisy knows more people and is a higher social class. She is able to take more action against him if she actually has proof of the abuse. He hits Myrtle on the nose because she won't do as much about it and is also his sidepiece.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:22 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668486980 Izzy Lark https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487129 Tom takes Nick to meet his mistress probably because he wanted to brag about how he has a mistress....just kidding I think its because Tom wanted Nick to be part of his life they seem close enough.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:31 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487129 Gage https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487184 Why did Tom break Myrtle's nose over saying "Daisy" on page 37?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:34 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487184 Emma https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487292 We have learned that Tom and Daisy have a rocky relationship where Daisy is really just a show wife, which is why Tom doesn't abuse Daisy as much as he abuses Myrtle. We also know that Daisy knows that Tom is cheating on her with different women but is staying with him anyway.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:40 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487292 Georgia https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487420 I learned that they might just be together just because of respect to each other and that they are in a very toxic relationship.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:44 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487420 Sophia Weiland https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487440 Where are Dr. Ecklberg's blue eyes looking at over the valley? And why do we care about this build board?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:46 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487440 Daisy Mitchell https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487563 In the book Catherine talks with Nick about Gatsby and says that she has been to one party of his a month ago and his cousin or nephew is Kaiser Wilhelm's and that's how he gets his money and she is scared of Gatsby. Who is Kaiser Wilhelms?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:51 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487563 Jane https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487652 On page 23 Ftizgerald describes a line of cars as gray, the men as ash-gray, and the land as gray. This paints an image of a bleak, boring area. Further on a billboard is described with blue eyes and yellow glasses. This billboard is very colorful and is juxtaposed with the rest of the area.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:38:56 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487652 ava https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487923 Page 15-"Wilson? He thinks she goes to see her sister in New York. He's so dumb he doesn't know he's alive."

Page 17-"Mr. McKee was a pale, feminine man from the flat below."

Page 19-"Daisy was not a Catholic, and I was a little shocked at the elaborateness of the lie."

]]> 2025-11-05 18:39:07 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668487923 Jackson https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488265 Why does Tom take Nick to meet Myrtle? Why does Tom smack Myrtle?

Why do they want a dog?

What happened to Nick?

Who's cheating on who?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:39:24 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488265 Reese https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488405 "Occasionally a line of gray cars crawls along an invisible track, gives out a ghastly creak, and comes to rest, and immediately the ash-gray men swarm up with leaden spades and stir up an impenetrable cloud, which screens their obscure operations from your sight." Page 23

]]> 2025-11-05 18:39:31 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488405 Kellen https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488634 Maybe Nick's curiosity is driving him to figure out more about why Tom invited him and he states in page 35, "each time I tried to go I became entangled I some wild, strident argument which pulled me back," depicting that although Nick wanted to leave at times, he kept getting held back in some reason to stay.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:39:41 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488634 Kylie Walker https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488706 I think Dr. Ecklberg's blue eyes over the whole valley represent like the rich looking over the poor, like being more superior.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:39:45 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668488706 Naomi https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489092 Why is Tom not super secretive about Myrtle and why does he keep her around just to treat her badly while being unfaithful to Daisy?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:00 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489092 Izzy https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489159 Does this part of the chapter take place before the dinner in chapter one or after the dinner? If after why does he tell this story before chapter 1?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:04 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489159 Gabe https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489553 On page 24 when Tom and Nick get off the train the Vally of ash is described as a desolate dirty place.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:15 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489553 Gabe https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489660 I think that Tom takes Nick to meet Myrtle b/c Nick is around tom so much that he would find out something was up and then investigate but if Tom takes him to see her he will just assume if Tom is acting weird its because of Myrtle.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:20 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489660 Joey https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489713 The color of people's eyes are addressed multiple times, "The eyes of T. J. Eckleburg are blue and gigantic," (23) and later when describing George Wilson, "When he saw us a damp gleam of hope sprange into his light blue eyes." (25)

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:23 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489713 cole https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489737 We've learned that Tom is a very aggressive and powerful person while Daisy seems to be more quiet and innocent. Daisy knows Tom is cheating on her but doesn't say anything or talk to him about it so she has a reason to stay with him that could be money or other things.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:25 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489737 Emma https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489890 Tom takes Nick to meet his mistress to boast his power and status, because it was a common thing among the wealthy in that period. I believe that Daisy is aware of Tom having mistresses but does not know the specifics.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:33 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668489890 Will https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490056 Myrtle might want the dog because she wants to have someone to protect her and someone to rely on in their new apartment

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490056 Lucas Giles https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490058 She might want a dog because she may want to become closer with Tom because she may need money. The dog makes them almost a sort of small family as they both have to take care of it together.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490058 Jane https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490489 Nick doesn't leave the party at first to be polite. I think that further on he stays because he is so drunk

]]> 2025-11-05 18:41:02 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490489 ava https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490742 Why does Catherine lie about Daisy being a Catholic so she can't divorce Tom? Is the lie meant to be joking, or does she really think that no one in the room (including Nick) knows anything about Daisy? Or is it meant to be a jab at her and how she's unholy for letting her Tom have a mistress?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:41:11 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668490742 jackson https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668491148 are these drunk parties recurring throughout the whole book?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668491148 Reese https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668492002 Why does Tom take Nick to meet Myrtle, and why isn't Tom being secretive over Myrtle's existence?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:42:17 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668492002 Daisy Mitchell https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668492293 I feel that she only wants a dog to have it as property and not because she truly wants to take care of a dog. I feel that to her the dog is just an object she wants to show off. The book only mentions the dog in this chapter and Myrtle never shows a lot of affection for the dog.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:42:29 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668492293 Charlotte https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668495369 Nick doesn't leave the party due to a combination of social obligation, peer pressure, and drunkenness. If someone is asking you to stay at a party and saying you'll make someone upset if you leave, you'll feel less inclined to leave as to not upset the whole group you are with and keep people from thinking your a party pooper. Nick's only job in high society is to keep up appearances.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:44:38 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668495369 Khaula Bentaher https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668495414 In the beginning of the chapter, Tom tells Nick to be respectful and not embarrass Myrtle by not wanting to go to the party. So, Nick doesn't want to be "Rude"

]]> 2025-11-05 18:44:40 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668495414 jackson https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668496962 page 38- "Beauty and the Beast... Loneliness... Old Grocery Horse... Brook'n Bridge..."

]]> 2025-11-05 18:45:53 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668496962 Joey https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668496978 Why do him and his side chick need a dog?

]]> 2025-11-05 18:45:54 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668496978 Kellen https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500023 Daisy and Tom have a heavily toxic and secret relationship. Tom is clearly cheating on Daisy and it should be noticed that there's a reason as to why Tom becomes enraged by Daisy being mentioned, showing that Tom is being abusive towards Myrtle because it's going to be more difficult for blame to be put on him.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:48:05 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500023 Naomi https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500467 His blue eyes could represent protection and security over the whole valley. So far we've seen that colors are used to symbolize many different things in the book.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:48:26 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500467 Will https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500533 Nick wants to be respectful and therefore stayed. I also think he got "peer pressured by the others at the party.

]]> 2025-11-05 18:48:29 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668500533 Izzy https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668502711 WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DOG!!!!?!

]]> 2025-11-05 18:50:03 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668502711 Morgan Babinski morganbabinski https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668561865 Myrtle wants a dog with Tom because she cannot have a baby with him because she is married to Mr. Wilson, so by having a dog it gives them a connection and something to bring them closer together. The dog symbolizes their baby that they cannot have.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:36:00 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668561865 Adele https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668564138 They represent something watching over the town and all going on there.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:37:54 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668564138 Dylan A https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565645 I think that Nick stayed because he wanted to try and establish connections in the new place in which he lives, by meeting established people such as the would-be friends of Tom's. I also think it may be because of the access to alcohol which would have been rare at the time.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:39:07 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565645 Liv https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565760 I think she wants a dog with Tom because they cannot have children. They can't have children because they both have other spouses. So they get a dog as sort of replacement child to fill that gap in their life as well as bond them together more permantly, as permantly as you can be while having another partner at the same time.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:39:15 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565760 Adele https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565914 They use the blue eyes to watch over the city and grey ash to describe it many times.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:39:23 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668565914 Blayne blayneclausen https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668566814 Why does Nick stay with Tom and Myrtle?

]]> 2025-11-05 19:40:11 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668566814 Nethra https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567039 Myrtle wants the dog because she wants something that keeps her and Tom connected. They obviously can't have a child because they are both married and that would simply not be possible.

]]> 2025-11-05 19:40:23 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567039 Morgan B morganbabinski https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567175 I do not think that Daisy knows a lot about Myrtle but mainly that she knows that he is having an affair and that is why she wants her daughter to be a "fool".

]]> 2025-11-05 19:40:31 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567175 Graham https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567196 Why does Gatsby keep being brought up?

]]> 2025-11-05 19:40:32 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668567196 Charlotte https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668842992 "At 158th Street the cab stopped at one slice in long white cake of apartment-houses" (page 28)

"The sister Catherine, was slender, worldly girl of about thirty with a solid, sticky bob of red hair, and a complexion powdery milky white." (page 30)

"an elaborate afternoon dress of cream-colored chiffon" (page 30)

]]> 2025-11-06 00:23:18 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3668842992 Giorgia https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3715350998 To Myrtle a dog represents a domestic life with Tom. Its nearly impossible for them to have a family because of their life situations, so a dog is the closest they will get to having a child.

]]> 2025-12-09 02:05:20 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3715350998 Giorgia https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3715376672 Why does Tom make it so clear that he's cheating on Daisy? Does he think that Daisy wont have the ability to leave him?

]]> 2025-12-09 02:19:25 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3715376672 Sara Patel https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3716315372 Myrtle really wants a dog because the dog doesn't just represent a pet to her, but she believes that getting a shared dog with Tom would strengthen their relationship. She thinks that the dog would be the next best thing to a child, which they clearly can't have.

]]> 2025-12-09 15:10:19 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3716315372 Sara Patel https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3716324634 Tom and Daisy have an unbalanced power dynamic, Tom has more control over Daisy than Daisy could ever have. Obvious problems in their relationship would be Tom cheating and becoming abusive. Adding on to that, both Daisy and Tom have proved time and time again that they are truly careless people, one of the few things that actually relate to both of them.

]]> 2025-12-09 15:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/msward/ggchapter2/wish/3716324634