SJ Scene 5 by Sophia Koh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5 Pls indicate the qn number and your names in the title. EG: Q1_ Tyler & Thea en-us 2019-03-29 05:01:33 UTC 2019-04-18 00:49:39 UTC hello@padlet.com Janice and Chloe 18s414 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347467161 #2 pg 93 
T: Dunois uses rhetorical questions “Do Archbishops enjoy being played off their own altars?” and “Do ambitious Politicians love the climbers who take the front seats from them?” 
C: To urge Joan to see from the authorities’ perspectives of her and emphasize how they do not reciprocate her efforts as they are jealous of her abilities and influence. 
M: Dunois lends a touch of reality to Joan’s dissatisfactions and concerns by explaining to her why her achievements are not appreciated by the authorities.


]]> 2019-04-02 04:27:30 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347467161 Ryan & John 18S414 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347468350 #2: The repetition of the pronoun 'I' by Joan throughout her speech provides a tone of obsession; showing how she is extremely fixated on wanting to be admired and loved by those around her. This is complemented by Dunois' repeated usage of rhetorical questions like 'Do ambitious politicians love the climbers who take the front seats from them?', which serves as a harsh dose of reality for Joan, allowing her to finally understand that her naive wants are not well received in the eyes of the authorities.


]]> 2019-04-02 04:35:35 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347468350 Razza & Jian Qi 18A202 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347468955 #1 : T = The stage directions where 'Joan shakes her head reluctantly' shows that she is 
C = hesitant about appearing in front of the court as she is unable to comprehend the Court's animosity towards her and she does not want to feel embarrassed or face any more criticism by them. Hence, she encounters a moment of weakness because her feelings get the better of her, making her seem more cowardly in front of an audience. Therefore, Joan
M = seems to be more vulnerable here as compared to her boldness and courage in earlier scenes. 


]]> 2019-04-02 04:40:07 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347468955 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347469328 Andre Cody Syafiq
Qn 3 T: Metonymy
         C: Joan’s remark of “nursing” Dunois hints a trace of her feminine side inside her as nursing is usually seen as something women are usually associated with, and Dunois recognised this by stating Joan is “a bit of a woman after all”.

]]> 2019-04-02 04:43:23 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347469328 Ashley 18S501 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470729 Q4)T: The dramatic irony displayed as Charles protest against about the weight of those robes as well as his desire to have ‘dropped when they loaded that crown’ on him 
C: serves as a comparison to the strong-willed determined Joan who was extremely committed to crown the Dauphin at Rheims. For Joan to have wanted  Charles to be crowned King more than Dauphin himself, the wars Joan had to conquer through, it is therefore ironic that Charles took his position as King so lightly, despite the trials it took of his soldiers for him to earn that place.]]> 2019-04-02 04:54:05 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470729 Derrius and Zafir https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470855 #4: 
T: The exaggeration and repetition of the weight of the his newly obtained robe and the emphasis of "loading the crown onto him"
C: Shows us how Charles cannot look past the superficial aspects of his new role as king, Charles is currently more concerned with regards to what he has to wear and how it is physically weighing him down. This is in stark contrast to what a real king should do, which is to care more about his citizen's and land's wellbeing, rather than complain about how heavy his robes and crown are. Despite Joan's valiant efforts to raise him up to power, he has let her down.]]> 2019-04-02 04:55:04 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470855 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470994 Shao Qi & Trishia 18S403

#1:T: the stage direction “shakes her head reluctantly” shows that she is indecisive of following Dunois to meet the masses. 
C: this is a far cry from her confident and decisive self; where she is very sure of her decisions.
T: When Joan said to ‘let the king have all the glory’
C: It is unlike her usual conduct and character due to her innate desire in seeking the acceptance and recognition of others around her.For her to reject such an opportunity must be because she is not ready or in the right state of mind to do so

M:(thus,)Joan seems to be more vulnerable here as compared to her boldness and courage in earlier scenes.]]> 2019-04-02 04:55:48 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347470994 Q1 Syahindah & Zhi Yu https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347471267 Q1: T -  Contrast between her attitude towards other people in Scene 1&2 and 5
C - When Joan shows her unwillingness to meet the people, it highlights the contrast between her daring and confident attitude in Scenes 1 and 2 and her timid and unconfident attitude in Scene 5. In scenes 1&2, she was not afraid to speak out her opinions and even managed to persuade others to let her accomplish her goal, which is to lead the army to victory and crown the Dauphin. However in scene 5, Joan’s reluctance shows how her earlier confidence has diminished in front of people’s eyes and it shows how she is afraid of people’s criticism as in this scene. Her faith is being seen as arrogance by other officials and they see her as a threat.



]]> 2019-04-02 04:58:03 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347471267 Jolin Syarah and Claudia 18s310 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347472733 #3
T: tone of Joan is affectionate ; gentle diction of the way Joan speaks, yet she denies her true nature as a woman “I am a soldier and nothing else” ; irony that Joan treats Dunois as a child “I wish you were one of the willage babies” , “soldiers always nurse children”, yet she is the child
C: unexpected expression of Joan’s inner feelings and emotions, yet denies that she’s a woman. Joan also acts as if she has superiority over Dunois, even though she is merely a child.
pls give us an A 😫🤩]]> 2019-04-02 05:11:09 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347472733 Abu & Elijah 18S310 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347474808 #4 
T:  The use of irony in the extract, “The weight of those robes! I thought I should have dropped when they loaded that crown on me”.
C: Charles focuses on the actual weight of the robes rather than the traditional significance that the robes actually connote. Though both may seem to be of equal burden to Charles, he chooses to pay heed to physical weight rather than the mental one.


]]> 2019-04-02 05:29:42 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347474808 Meghana and Athena https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476536 #1 
The stage directions [T] that directs Joan to show reluctance to want to meet the crowd [C] shows us that she is hesitant to display herself in front of the court and the crowd. This is a stark contrast to how she had behaved till this point in time in the play. She was confident and uncaring towards the likes of others and now, the fact that she is hiding from those she earnestly wanted to meet. Thus, Joan seems to be more vulnerable here as compared to her boldness and courage in earlier scenes.
]]> 2019-04-02 05:43:04 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476536 #2 Rayson, Yuan Zhi https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476769 #2:
T: Rhetorical questions that repeat the same idea of inferiors ousting their superiors
C: Joan sulking and questioning why she doesn't receive credit for her efforts to help the people. Dunois lectures her that people do not enjoy being displaced by their subordinates. 
C: This suggests how naive and simplistic Joan's view of social order is. On the other hand, Dunois, a more pragmatic figure, is aware of realistic issues such as power struggle amongst the higher ups when someone below challenges their position of power. 
M: Dunois lends a touch of reality to Joan's dissatisfactions and concerns by explaining to her why her achievements are not appreciated by authorities


]]> 2019-04-02 05:44:56 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476769 Ling Jie & Jia Qi 18S310 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476859
#2
M: Dunois lends a touch of reality to Joan's dissatisfactions and concerns by explaning to her why her achievements are not appreciated by the authorities.

T: Dunois' enjambment of questions and his tone of exasperation 
C: Dunois is trying to drive the fact into Joan that she has not considered a prominent aspect of the source of her worries and is narrow-minded. This is done so by peppering her with queries that basically paints the same situation over and over again. Although the questions are of people from different positions, they all tell the same story of someone from a high position who is used to being the greatest of all, to suddenly get challenged and outsmarted by someone. His constant stream of similar questions is to show Joan how she has missed out this simple and vital aspect of her worries for so long. His exasperated tone as can be seen in "Why, I should be jealous of you myself if I were ambitious enough" underscores this fact.]]> 2019-04-02 05:45:34 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476859 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476891 Q3_Constance & Yet Lam

T: tone and mood
C: the change in Joan’s tone through her feminine demeanour toward Dunois, treating him with something akin to a motherly love, using tender words like “nurse”. Her denial of being a woman in “ I am a soldier and nothing else” shows how even during a tender moment, she is unable to come to terms with her femininity and admit it, showing how she is unable to articulate her fondness in a socially acceptable way  


]]> 2019-04-02 05:45:42 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347476891 Q2 Cassia and Zhaorong https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347886105 TCM esreveR Engineering: Zhaorong and Cassia

#2 
T: In this excerpt, Shaw characterises Joan as someone who, although fervently pursues the will of God, is still very much human, with her own flaws such as hubris. Joan mentions several times her desire for people’s acceptance and recognition of her contributions. Throughout this excerpt, there is a heavy emphasis on the way Joan talks about herself (“I have set them right”, “I have brought them luck and victory”, “I have crowned Charles”). This highlights Joan’s human nature as well as a moment where her ‘saintliness’ falters. Dunois tries to justify how Joan isn’t well received, which is shown through the stage directions as well as the tone and diction in his conversation with Joan. The tone of the sentence “Do you expect stupid people to love you for shewing them up?” suggests how Dunois thinks the people’s reaction towards Joan is expected, all due to the successes of her military endeavours. The constant repetition of ‘Do you…?’ further amplifies the blatant reason as to why Joan is not well received by her people. Here, it is evident that Dunois’ words, though of good intent, served as a way to bring Joan down from her high pedestal. 
]]> 2019-04-03 01:20:39 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/347886105 monica, sam 18s212 https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/348296667 #2
T: Repetition of rhetorical questions

C: The repetition of Joan's questions shows the simplistic view on subjects, especially on relating to politics, hierarchy and power. She is unable to comprehend why others with a certain status and power do not like her even after all that she has done. Dunois then tries to comfort her, and the use of rhetorical questions highlights how Dunois is trying to point out that it is simply in our human nature to behave in this manner. They are after all, trying to defend themselves towards threats and dangers that places their power into questioning, especially those whose powers supersedes them.

M: Dunois lends a touch of reality to Joan's dissatisfaction and concerns by explaining to her why her achievements are not appreciated by the authorities. ]]> 2019-04-03 21:57:50 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/348296667 Q4_Constance & Yet Lam MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371696
T: Hyperbole and irony
C: Charles exaggerates the discomfort of wearing the necessary robes to be crowned by criticising their heaviness and unpleasantness, proving how he shows no gratitude nor seriousness in his new role as king, but instead is focused on frivolous and selfish things like his own comfort. Charles’ even uses taboo ideas while using the archbishop to prove the unpleasantness of being crowned and further claims that he would rather not have this title than have to ‘suffer’ through the discomfort again, clearinn showing his lack of maturity and sensibility in taking on such an important role.]]> 2019-04-08 06:15:35 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371696 #4 Cassia and zhao rong MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371768 T: In this excerpt, Shaw utilises a very ungrateful tone for the dialogue of Charles after being crowned.which is similar to the one that he used when Joan first met him in scene 2. Suggesting that his tone mirrors his attitude. Throughout the excerpt Shaw uses words like “weight” and “rancid” to describe the robes and holy oil respectively, both of which are representative of the coronation.
Cont.: The coronation which Joan and the French army fought so hard for is now being described by degrading words like “weight[y]” and “rancid” by charles who was crowned which is disrespectful and ungrateful of him. 
Conn.: This ungrateful tone of his suggests that he thinks that having to wear a heavy robe and be covered with foul oil is in any way comparable to the struggles faced by the troops when they reclaimed Rheims for him to be throned. This shows that Charles still cares more about himself than actually fulfilling the role of a king just like in scene 2 where he claimed he did not even want to be king. The fact that he still has the cheek to complain about the weight of the robes and and smell of oil rather than just being grateful for being crowned shows that he still has a petty focus on the material and practical.
M: Although he has, as Joan envisioned,been made king, Charles at his core remains that same petty focus on the material and practical that he exhibis in Scene 2
]]> 2019-04-08 06:16:03 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371768 Q3 Monica Sam MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371913 T: Charles' critical tone and use of exclamations

C: Charles concerns after being crowned king was not that of the king's duties but rather, about how heavy the robes were and how rancid and awful certain aspects of the coronation was. The exclamations shows the extent of he's exaggeration which allows us to see Charles' rather flawed personality. He prioritizes small inconveniences over his supposedly monumental kingship and constantly nitpicks at anything possible.

M: Although he has, as Joan envisioned, been made King, Charles at his core retains that same petty focus on the material and practical, that he exhibits in scene 2.]]> 2019-04-08 06:17:06 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371913 Q3 Abu and Elijah MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371987 T: The use of diction “wish you were one of the village babies” and “nurse you for awhile” reveal the tender and feminine nature of Joan, and the endearment she expresses through the act of “nursing”, which is similar to that of a doting mother.
C: The mention of these phrases
suggest the inevitability of Joan being a woman, and the way she expresses her affection would ultimately be similar to the way women show their love. However, since she chooses to remain “a soldier”, and tries to not to give the wrong idea to Dunois, her attempts to express her affection as a woman in the image of a soldier results in this peculiar portrayal.

]]> 2019-04-08 06:17:40 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349371987 Q4 Rayson and Yuan Zhi MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372188 #4:
T: Pessimistic tone in becoming king that explains why he repeatedly complains about trivial issues such as his robe. 
C: Immediately after the coronation ceremony where Charles is officially announced as king, Charles complains about the menial and the insignificant
C: his attitude seems not king-like, portraying how negative outlook of being king is like even though he can be 'emperor of the sun and moon'. Although Charles is officially recognised as a legitimate King, but his fixation on these heavy "robes" 
M]]> 2019-04-08 06:18:50 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372188 Q4 Jolin Syarah and Claudia MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372307 T: hyperbole of the weight of the robes “weighed a ton” ; onomatopoeia of the sound “phew!” ; whiny tone ; allegory of scene 2 and scene 5
C: highlights that Charles does not want to be crowned and feels a sense of relief. Charles is materialistic because he does not want to bear the responsibility of a King yet he wants to reap the benefits of becoming one. He justify his view by referencing the situation with the Archbishop’s responsibility that seems to take a toll on him.]]> 2019-04-08 06:19:38 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372307 Q3: Athena and Meghana MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372392 Joan does not understand why the people at the top of the chain of higher beings despises her. The multiple rhetorical questions asked by Dunois to Joan shows us the extent to which Dunois disagrees with Joan’s viewpoint on how she views the animosity that the courtiers, knights and churchmen have towards Joan. He is trying to explain the reason behind why the authorities hate her and by doing so, Dunois is lending a touch of reality to Joan’s dissatisfactions and concerns by explaining to her why her achievements are not appreciated by the authorities. ]]> 2019-04-08 06:20:12 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372392 Q4 Trishia and Shao Qi MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372494 #4: T:“The weight of those robes!” and “I would not go through it again” 
C: shows how small minded Charles is as he does not look past the tedious formalities of being crowned king to appreciate the authority he has obtained and only cares about his own wellbeing. ]]> 2019-04-08 06:20:46 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372494 Q3 Darrius and Zafir MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372611 #3
T: Joan breaks character saying "village babies" and 
"nurse" here to show us a rare caring side her, while demonstrating to us that Joan will never be a true fighting male soldier because she is a woman.

C: Placed in context, Joan is displaying her respect for Dunoir's contributions to the army, seen by her offering to nurse Dunoir. This shows us that they have a close friendship with each other. However, her usage of inappropriate terms in this case to Dunoir who is not her romantic partner is unacceptable especially during that time period where gender stereotypes were rampant. 'Nursing' is also a peculiar thing for Joan to say. especially when she is trying to fit into the army as a fellow fighting soldier. All these proves to us that Joan is breaking character as she speaks like this.


]]> 2019-04-08 06:21:27 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372611 Q4 Razza and Jian Qi MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372669 #4 : T= The hyperbole where the Dauphin mentions that "They are stripping him (Archbishop) still in the vestry" shows that he is 
C = exaggerating the burden of going through this process of being King by comparing it to the weight of the Archbishop robe, to the point that it almost seems as if he is mocking the process of it by making it a commercial moment. 
T = Furthermore, the diction used by the Dauphin in describing the process 
C = shows he is already complaining about small petty things that should not be much of much importance and relevance to him as he should be foucusing on his new responsibilities of being a King. 

]]> 2019-04-08 06:21:51 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372669 Q4 Syahindah and Zhi Yu MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372719 Q4: T - “ weight of those robes” and “dropped when they loaded that crown on to me “. The exaggeration of the weight of the robe and the crown is a hyperbole  to symbolise the extreme importance of materials to Charles 
C -  Charles chooses to focus on the new items that were give to him as king instead of his newly found authority and power to serve the people. This shows how the duties of a king is less important than wealth to him. Hence this reinforces the attitude that has been displayed in scene 2 where he believes that the reason why he is disrespected is because he is not well to do and because he has not been crowned yet. This shows how his core values are focused on the materialistic needs of himself instead of governing the country.]]> 2019-04-08 06:22:11 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372719 Q2 Ashley MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372788 Q2) T: The use of several rhetorical questions and angered tone by Dunois during his conversation with Joan 
C: exemplifies his concern over Joan for he is exasperated of her being a ‘Sim-ple-ton’, for thinking too simply and lightly of the world around her. He therefore brutally rebukes her of her ignorance and unawareness of the way politics run.]]> 2019-04-08 06:22:33 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372788 Q3 Janice & Chloe MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372910 #3 pg 94
T: Diction Joan uses, “village babies”, “I could nurse you for awhile” and “I am a soldier and nothing else”.
C: Exemplifies her rare nurturing side which tells us that she really cares about Dunois, highlighting their strong bond. However, Joan’s choice of words are inappropriate as it is too straightforward and blunt and women are usually this devoted towards their partners. This behaviour may be viewed as immoral by the public. In addition, Joan denies her role as a woman, which challenges gender norms, which is extremely unacceptable by the Catholic Church.
M: Joan’s sudden show of tenderness towards Dunois is a sign of both her camaraderie with him, and her inability to properly articulate or represent it in a way that would be socially acceptable for a woman. ]]> 2019-04-08 06:23:17 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372910 Q4 Andre Cody and Syafiq MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372978
Qn 4 T: Hyperbole & diction
         C: Charles complained that the weight of his crown was significant enough to be “loaded on to” him. He also felt that his robes was too thick to the extent that he “should have dropped” it. Finally he claimed that the famous holy oil was “rancid”, which meant that Charles was extremely disgusted by it. ]]> 2019-04-08 06:23:41 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349372978 Q1 Ryan and John MsKoh https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349373059 #1:  Here, Joan replies to Dunois with a simple 'No', barely giving any elaboration to her answer. Her usage of curt and short words provide a meek tone, which is a stark juxtaposition against her confident self in Scenes 1-3. This is further supported by her following reply 'Let the king have all the glory', which is very odd considering she craves glory and recognition for her exploits.]]> 2019-04-08 06:24:08 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349373059 Q1 & 4 - Carl & Junqi https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349757846 Q1 T - Stage directions.
C - Joan is very unsure and uncomfortable with the situation, as shown through the stage directions. She does not think the people care about her and would rather just let Charles get all the attention, even though throughout the novel she has been very blunt, outspoken and confident. She has shown another side of her that she usually doesn't show, which proves how her human emotions have overcome her and her original valour and dedication to her mission.

Q4 T - Hyperbole, Symbolism
C - Charles is exagerrating the extent of his title and still vehemently rejects going through the ordeal to own even more land like the Sun and Moon. He is stating this to emphasise on how much he despised the process of becoming King, even insulting the holy oil, which is a sacred symbol of the Catholic religion. The holy oil is usually used to purify or baptise someone, but Charles describes it as rancid, which shows how the process was painful and caused him to suffer. Furthermore, the robe and the crown symbolised wealth and status, but for Charles, it symbolises burdens and regrets. They are heavy to remind him constantly of the weight that was carried in order for him to be King.]]> 2019-04-09 01:12:10 UTC https://padlet.com/MsKoh/SJ5/wish/349757846