Elder Bednar, Paulo Freire compare and contrast by Michelle Schow https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4 en-us 2017-01-23 22:14:23 UTC 2023-04-09 00:47:05 UTC hello@padlet.com ELDER BEDNAR--specific to INCREASE LEARNING shellgourley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887504 2017-01-23 22:16:27 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887504 WAYS THEY ARE SIMILAR shellgourley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887780 2017-01-23 22:18:51 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887780 Freire--ideas specific to his teachings shellgourley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887826 2017-01-23 22:19:12 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/148887826 shellgourley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/169552768 2017-05-02 21:46:28 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/169552768 shellgourley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/169552933 2017-05-02 21:46:43 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/169552933 Curiosity can protect us from being too rational https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/170665871 -Sarah Mortensen]]> 2017-05-09 04:20:03 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/170665871 We should be taught things to make us deal with reality. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/170901726 -Jessica Boeck]]> 2017-05-10 00:44:18 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/170901726 If we heed to prayer to help us through are studies we can become the individual we need to be in order to be an effective learner. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171036265 -Natalie Bluemel]]> 2017-05-10 15:17:08 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171036265 Teachers should teach on this basis of caring. We have to be mindful of the students needs when we teach. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171037596 -Natalie Bluemel]]> 2017-05-10 15:21:39 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171037596 Believes teachers should take sides between those who have wealth and those of the social oppressed. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171038797 -Natalie Bluemel]]> 2017-05-10 15:25:31 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171038797 Students should be actively involved in their own education. They should be engaged, and not become bored, or frustrated. They should also understand discipline https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171129753 -Tatelyn Graves ]]> 2017-05-10 22:22:42 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171129753 Relying on the spirit and being able to apply those teachings into our lives can help benefit us in the ways we teach and learn. Being a good teacher also includes learning from others. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171132664 -Nia Palmer]]> 2017-05-10 23:08:56 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171132664 The learning space for children is measured by the progress they do on tests rather than the work they put into the class. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171132954 -Nia Palmer]]> 2017-05-10 23:12:59 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171132954 Bednar vs Freire https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171156290 The biggest way that Elder Bednar's teachings in Increase in Learning are similar to Paulo Freire's philosophy is the focus on active student participation. Freire did not believe that students should passively absorb everything that their teacher teaches them. Likewise, Elder Bednar tells us that learners have certain responsibilities that require them to actively seek out learning. I would say that the biggest difference between these two philosophies is the importance placed on individualism. Bednar believes that we should learn in order to better ourselves and bring us closer to God. Freire believes that we should learn so that we can change the social and political climate.
-Micah Crampton ]]> 2017-05-11 03:49:39 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171156290 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308030 Freire is almost impossible to read because he sounds stuck up and wordy. He speaks exclusively from a secular context.
-Keenan Seable]]> 2017-05-11 16:36:09 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308030 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308752 Elder Bednar speaks exclusively from a religious perspective.
-Keenan Seable]]> 2017-05-11 16:38:35 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308752 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308949 Both authors appear to state the obvious about teaching and learning in their respective spheres of secular and religious education.
-Keenan]]> 2017-05-11 16:39:18 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171308949 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171310439 Sarah, I like your comment on this. It makes sense. Um, not sure what else to write here.]]> 2017-05-11 16:44:00 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171310439 I really like this comment. Students should be active in their education and take initiative to learn. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171333816 -Jessica Boeck]]> 2017-05-11 18:05:48 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171333816 I enjoyed your comment because I have personally noticed that when I prayer for guidance in my studies I am more aware and guided throughout my studies in the classroom https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171345511 -Natalie Bluemel]]> 2017-05-11 18:47:06 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171345511 This statement is very interesting to me I think it is so important to question things around us in order to keep us free thinkers. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171347027 -Natalie Bluemel ]]> 2017-05-11 18:53:06 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171347027 Bednar is also speaking to an adult audience capable of learning on their own. Some children who are too young or have disabilities will need more help and motivation. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372434 -Sarah Mortensen

]]> 2017-05-11 21:31:54 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372434 Yes, I think that all students want what they are learning to actually be applicable to them. I think that applies to every age. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372550 -Sarah Mortensen]]> 2017-05-11 21:33:03 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372550 Agreed! I think that some of the best learning that has come to me is in group discussions where everyone shares a unique point of view. We all need to participate to help each other. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372711 -Sarah Mortensen]]> 2017-05-11 21:34:34 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171372711 I like what you said the spirit helping us teach. i think that we can learn a lot from Bednar. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171477502 2017-05-12 13:16:26 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171477502 I like what you said Nia. I think that learning should be measured the other way around. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171478722 2017-05-12 13:20:10 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171478722 I think that this is interesting how can someone be to rational? https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171479292 2017-05-12 13:22:18 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171479292 Late Post https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171578439 Sorry I'm late on a post. Wasn't sure where  I needed to go to post, but reading it clearly now I know where. So, thoughts on Freire, I feel that on he doesn't want us trapped when we are learning or teaching something new. Meaning not to get stuck when we learn something.
-Derek Hildebrand 5/13/2017 ]]> 2017-05-12 20:31:55 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171578439 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171593208 I love how you're wrote this, I truly believe that prayer can help us conquer our biggest fears and trials]]> 2017-05-13 02:49:11 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171593208 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171593323 I agree here with the comparison I really liked how it was focused on the student becoming active in their education ]]> 2017-05-13 02:53:36 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171593323 The Holy Ghost is the true teacher through whom we can come to learn and truly understand everything, and we must become true learners to become like God. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171631889 -Shandria Hall]]> 2017-05-13 18:12:01 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171631889 Teaching is something that you can not just do, you have to live it too. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632133 -Shandria Hall]]> 2017-05-13 18:17:31 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632133 We should have a reason for teaching and for learning. It is to help better the society and ourselves. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632206 -Shandria Hall]]> 2017-05-13 18:19:25 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632206 I like your comment. We teach because we care for the students and want them to improve. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632244 -Shandria Hall]]> 2017-05-13 18:20:12 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632244 I think Prayer is a great learning tool. You can pray to help understand things greater then we do now or pray to be taught what we need to know by the spirit https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632356 -Shandria Hall]]> 2017-05-13 18:22:30 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171632356 I like what you said about being active. I think that as students we need to find ways to keep ourselves active in our learning, we need to speak out what we want to say, instead of sitting there keeping to ourselves. Participating is a way to keep ourselves active https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171640979 -Derek Hildebrand]]> 2017-05-13 22:00:01 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171640979 I completely agree that teachers need to live what they teach in order to become an example unto their students they need to practice what they preach. Good insight Sarah! https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641349 -Nia Palmer]]> 2017-05-13 22:13:22 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641349 I also feel that in order to be a good teacher you have to truly live it day to day to fully have an understanding and connection with your students and the material https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641415 -Nia Palmer]]> 2017-05-13 22:15:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641415 I am grateful you said that. The Holy Ghost is always there to help us find answers to some of the questions that we are looking for. But we have to do our part by studying, and becoming more like the Savior. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641483 -Derek Hildebrand]]> 2017-05-13 22:17:46 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171641483 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171649026 That's a really good point. Children can't properly learn without motivation from others. It's up to us to help them learn how to grow, so that someday they will be able to take responsibility for their own learning.]]> 2017-05-14 03:58:00 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171649026 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171649137 Absolutely. I mean, you wouldn't want to learn how to rock climb from someone who has never climbed a mountain. It's the same thing with teaching; ]]> 2017-05-14 04:01:18 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/171649137 One of the biggest similarities between Elder Bednar and Freire is that they both want education to be active. They want students to be getting their education and learning it actively. A difference between the two is religion. Obviously Elder Benders learning is going to be much more spiritual and gospel centered compared to Freire. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/173222297 -Savannah Smith]]> 2017-05-22 18:29:10 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/173222297 Wow that is such a great statement. I totally agree! We get so much more out of life in general when we help others rather than when we help ourselves. Not only do we learn more and help others by serving, but when we serve we are also growing ourselves and eventually if we continue the cycle then we will be served in return. When we have a plan and are organized and serving the Lord and others we can receive many blessings. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/173256482 -Savannah Smith]]> 2017-05-22 22:05:57 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/173256482 christiansentaylie https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193230478 Freire's ideas seems to be more political than Elder Bednar's because he talks more about politics and such rather than spiritual matters.-
T.S.]]> 2017-10-02 23:03:00 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193230478 We must act in our learning and not just wait to be acted upon (as students we cannot wait to be spoon-fed information "banking education".) We must seek learning. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238041 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:13:18 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238041 There is not much distinction between the student and the teacher - to teach well, we must continuously be learning and studying - and we must teach by example. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238263 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:15:38 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238263 I loved that Freire included ethics and morals in education - the gospel is full of moral issues where we must take a stand - most of education today has shied away from making moral judgements and taking stands. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238549 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:17:45 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238549 Both advocated questioning and then searching for the answers to those questions. Studying the Gospel is an eternal quest - not a one and done - Freire didn't have the spiritual vocabulary for it - but he talked about the reading 'speaking' to him - I think this is in the same way we can receive personal revelation through the Holy Ghost as we read scriptures that we may have already read many times before. Trish Harrahill trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238902 2017-10-03 00:20:57 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193238902 I think Freire does speak from a secular view. He calls intangibles - 'humanity' instead of looking at things as spiritual, or from our Father in Heaven. He is wordy, but I don't think he sounded stuck up, it sounded to me like he was trying to provide logic for his arguments by connecting everything the way a logic argument, or geometric proof would. Trish Harrahill trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193239418 2017-10-03 00:25:02 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193239418 The role of the Holy Ghost is unique to Elder Bednar between the two.. One quote in the Freire article stated that 'it was not a gift from God'...yet we know that at times it absolutely is! trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240047 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:29:35 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240047 Freire advocated that truth not be accepted as absolutes - that they continuously be explored - I think this is in contrast to Elder Bednar because we seek to gain a testimony of truth - and truth is eternal. We can seek to reaffirm our testimony of truth, but not to reject it trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240515 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:33:55 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240515 I love that this is the pattern we have had in our church classes which is being expanded through 'Teaching in the Savior's Way'. So many times I am touched, and receive personal revelation by what is shared by someone else with a different perspective or experience trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240829 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:36:59 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193240829 Applied learning is so important - but I appreciated F.'s emphasis on learning about the culture and experiences of others - especially those who are very different. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193241343 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:40:45 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193241343 I appreciate your points about motivation - this is a daily struggle with some students at my job....but I find that those students with no motivation are the ones without a relationship with a loving parent. I wish I could teach them about their Loving Heavenly Father... trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193241816 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-03 00:44:16 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193241816 I am so conflicted about assessment... I have a hard time with memorization - some tests are difficult for me. But I can comprehend concepts and discuss their application in real world settings and make comparisons and judgements. I would be better assessed on effort than on a test. Yet, I have some students with limited skills and abilities that cannot expound upon, or verbalize their learning - modified testing is a useful tool with them. It would be wonderful if we could assess each student in the modality in which they learn best. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193242268 2017-10-03 00:47:49 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193242268 They both believe that each person has a voice and an equal opportunity. They teach that it doesn’t matter if you are poor, white, black, big, small or made in any way that you are important and that you can create changes in society and learn. They both believe that they need to have unity between one another, they the teachers, supervisors and students need to see themselves as one. There is no room for pride. Both believe that student are more than objects to be taught too, but there own agents. They believe one must act and talk about what they have learn. They believe education should be more than just being taught. Karoly despain kdbeankd https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193692020 2017-10-04 02:30:57 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193692020 Bednar believes that we must be immersed in teachings. Paulo does not want people to be taught in huge amounts, he doesn’t want students to be looked upon as objects. This is true but there is so much in this life to learn and sometimes we must be willing to sit down listen and act upon all the teachings we have been given. Something else I feel is different is Bednar tries to focus on line upon line. I felt with Paulo’s ideas that he tried to hit people with bigger socially complex ideas and concepts while Bednar believes we must work with small ideas and work ourselves up to the more complex ideas. Bednar believes that we must faithfully obey. Paulo who grew up with a lot of oppression is not very fond of one person having more power than another. With Bednar he notes that we trust and obey the leaders and Heavenly Father and their teachings. ---Karoly Despain kdbeankd https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193692198 2017-10-04 02:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193692198 Freire believed that teachers should be learners and learners should be teachers. I feel that President Bednar says the same when he encourage the BYUI learning model. We are to learn and then teach others. Learning is never complete. "The learning process is an endless process" President Gordon B. Hinkley https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193915928 -Elizabeth Graham]]> 2017-10-04 15:21:15 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193915928 You're right. Students who struggle may have a disconnect with their parents. Thankfully we have opportunities to share His love for them through our example and how we show we care about them. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193921093 -Elizabeth Graham]]> 2017-10-04 15:29:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/193921093 Heather McKendrick https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194102539 Something that I believe that makes these two great people and their powerful ideas similar is the fact that we can't just wait for the things to come to us. We have to act ourselves. We are the ones that make the differences in our lives.  We must seek learning! ]]> 2017-10-04 21:56:59 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194102539 Heather McKendrick https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194103594 The ideas from Paulo Freire are interesting ones that are very thought-provoking! One that he mentions that is different from the ideas of Elder Bednar is the idea that students have a great power and need to invent and reinvent the world.]]> 2017-10-04 22:03:35 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194103594 I agree with the connection with the BYUI learning model and Freiere. Teachers are never finished being students, and students are never finished being teachers - I especially love the online model because it brings diverse people from different places and cultures with different experiences together so that we can teach each other and share unique perspectives. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194124971 2017-10-05 01:09:47 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194124971 Freire's calls for revolution through the democracy of the individual seem quite insistent - but his ideal that all deserve equality is in harmony with gospel principles as we are urged to lift others up and bear one another's burdens. We also need to work for change one by one - but I think we should work within the social framework or work to change the framework instead of trying to overthrow governments and institutions. At least we can receive direction and personal revelation in guiding our actions. trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194125809 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-05 01:17:42 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194125809 Elder bednar and Freire have very similar view points, but elder Bednar adds a more spiritual side to it. I love the way they state things, and I see elder Bednars point of view as more of an addition to Freire's than an opposite. It is so important that students are actively involved in the community as well as their school, and they illustrated this principal perfectly. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194131526 -Josi Jorgensen]]> 2017-10-05 02:08:49 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194131526 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194138907 A few examples of how these two's teachings are similar is that they both teach how to learn for ourselves and the need to act, as well as the fact that both teach in their respective religions as well.
-Zerek Smith]]> 2017-10-05 03:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194138907 The similar between Elder Bednar and Paulo Freire is both of them state that students need to build up their capacity to reflect and reason. We can't just memoize, receive and repeat what our teachers taught us. It is meaningless if we can't apply the knowledges or principles to our life. "Action is louder than words". Furthermore, both of them state that as a student, active participation is required because this is student's responsibilities and knowledge is associate with diligence. Also, both of them talked about the learning from experience. Through self-experience, we will become what we are. tsa17002 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194141704 The different is Elder Bednar provides a spiritual side on it compared with Freire's educational philosophy. Holy Ghost is our teacher to help us find the answer.  Besides, Paulo Freire advocated that truth is continually explored. However, we believed that truth is 'everlasting' 'unchanged' and 'eternal'.Truth is universal and does not depend on circumstances or place, time and person which I think this is a contrast to Elder Bednar's perspective. 

--------JAMIE TSANG]]> 2017-10-05 03:29:14 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194141704 Brianna Johnson breezy_candy https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194142327 I think that they have similar ideas in the talks. We can not wait to be acted upon, we must act in order to truly learn. This is something that I strongly believe because an inactive learner will learn nothing at all.

]]> 2017-10-05 03:34:16 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194142327 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194143838 I believe that Elder Bednar and Freire are similar in some ways because they both care about education a lot and look at the different ways teaching can be done.
-Erika West]]> 2017-10-05 03:46:19 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194143838 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194144498 Freire was really only focusing on one thing and that one thing can be great but can't always be used in an everyday classroom. 
-Erika West]]> 2017-10-05 03:52:52 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194144498 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194144659 Elder Bednar teaches us the different ways to teach  in a classroom. He also uses the spirit in his teachings and I really like that because I feel like those are the best teachings. 
-Erika West]]> 2017-10-05 03:54:33 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194144659 Abby Decker asd_purplegirl https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148620 They are similar in what-what they are teaching because they both talk about how educator and student and student and educator work together. Even though they aren't talking about the same thing it is still the same idea. Heavenly father works with you and you work with heavenly father to have a better understanding of things. ]]> 2017-10-05 04:24:56 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148620 Cynthia Espinoza https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148801 Elder Bednar's ideas are that we must learn to love learning and learn how to learn. Also that it does not stop at learning, but we must be agents and act on our knowledge in order for it to turn into understanding and ultimately intelligence. This is disimilar to Freire's beliefs because he also believes we must act to learn. That students cannot simply memorize information! They must go out and get involved in the community. They must want to learn.
Freire's ideas also include the privilege and right that all should say what they think and have the right to be angry and show emotions. elder Bednar does not show this idea in his book.]]> 2017-10-05 04:26:22 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148801 Abby Decker asd_purplegirl https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148842 They are similar in what-what they are teaching because they both talk about how educator and student and student and educator work together. Even though they aren't talking about the same thing it is still the same idea. Heavenly father works with you and you work with heavenly father to have a better understanding of things. ]]> 2017-10-05 04:26:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194148842 Sydney Beck 135sbeck23 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149135 Elder Bednar’s thoughts 
·       There is so much to learn and so little time to learn it all 
·       Spiritual knowledge cannot be borrowed from another person you must gain it yourself through personal experience, and is the most important 
·       Gospel truths are more important than worldly truths and advances. 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:29:38 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149135 Shannon Fenner: How they are both similar https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149155 What I enjoyed about Elder Bednar's book "Increase in Learning" was utilizing our learning by seeking help from Heavenly Father, the Holy Ghost and using the Book of Mormon to help us become better learns. Paulo Freire talks about the importance about how teachers and learners are both growing and changing, it made me think how everyone is seeking to become better people in their societies. Freire talks about the importance of creating a world without exploitation, inequality, and cultural enslavement. It made me think of Jesus Christ and how he wants people to use their skills to better the world. 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:29:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149155 Sydney Beck 135sbeck23 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149244  Freire’s teachings 
·       Wants students to constantly question everything they learn rather than accept it 
·       The oppressed majority’s success is limited by their non-critical thinking 
·       Teaching is a political process 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:30:51 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149244 Sydney Beck 135sbeck23 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149366
·       Both believe that the student should have an active part in learning 
·       Teacher should be open to class discussion and student participation 
·       The curriculum should change as the world changes 
·       Obtaining, creating, communicating, and applying knowledge are the overarching objectives of education 
·       The Teacher is continually learning too 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:32:00 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149366 Shannon Fenner: Increase in learning https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149806 Elder Bednar talks about the importance of learning throughout our lives and what skills we will need to do it successfully. He talks about the importance of being involved in our community and how it can enrich our lives.]]> 2017-10-05 04:36:22 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194149806 Cydnee Maikoski cydneeelise https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194150004 Both Bednar and Freire discuss that learning involves action. A person cannot learn anything without putting effort into it. Freire mentions that teaching and learning go hand in hand. A person that teaches also gains knowledge. He also mentions that curiosity is important. Bednar talked about how it is important to ask questions. These questions may help guide us to answers we are looking for or may help those around us. Bednar talks further in depth about what it really means to know, while Freire mentions that knowing is not simply just "following a hunch." Bednar focuses more on the eternal aspect of knowledge. Knowledge will benefit us in the future as well as right now. I like Bednar's emphasis on spiritual knowledge compared to Freire's emphasis on secular knowledge.]]> 2017-10-05 04:38:21 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194150004 Shannon Fenner: Freie's teaching https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194150064 Freire saw students and teachers as equals, two beings that were constantly learning and changing- having different experiences that could help the other grow. Freire encouraged critical thinking and wanted teachers to speak up so valuable lesson plans could take place (he believed requirements from the school board stopped the creativity teachers had, which stopped students from growing/learning) 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:38:46 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194150064 Meg Glancy meggie_7210 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151606 Elder Bednar's approach, as in his book, focuses more on indivdual learning and our roles as students. It also involves seeking knowledge through a higher power (the Godhead). 

]]> 2017-10-05 04:53:25 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151606 Meg Glancy meggie_7210 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151694 Paulo Freire's philosophies are a product of responding to worldly, mortal problems, such as poverty, and classroom-type settings. Thus, his methods and ideas revolve around changing society and preparing individuals to change policies. He seems to focus primarily on the teacher and educator's role. ]]> 2017-10-05 04:54:17 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151694 Meg Glancy meggie_7210 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151759 I found many similarities with the teachings of each of these men, but I'll keep it short. First, they agree that the student is not a blank slate, and that dialogue between student and teacher is important. Second, though Elder Bednar doesn't explicitly say this in the book, I doubt he would disagree with the idea of service-learning: learning as we act and experience the concepts we are being taught.  ]]> 2017-10-05 04:54:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194151759 I like what you're wrote action is important, because I think this is the reason why we need to learn. We use our knowledge to make righteousness decision in our life. tsa17002 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194152107 2017-10-05 04:58:05 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194152107 Thank you for sharing and I completely agree that uses the spirits as our guide can help can to avoid some mistakes and trouble. tsa17002 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194152599 2017-10-05 05:02:46 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194152599 I like what you talked about the cycle. I think sometimes helping or serving other people is helping ourselves too. tsa17002 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194153065 2017-10-05 05:06:55 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194153065 Kelsey Simpson https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194492729 Elder Bednar refers often to how we cannot borrow spiritual knowledge. Coming to know something is true is our duty]]> 2017-10-05 20:03:59 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194492729 Kelsey Simpson https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194493788 My thoughts were similar in that they both agree that we must DO something. The best learning comes from acting.]]> 2017-10-05 20:08:17 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194493788 Kelsey Simpson https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194494237 As I was reading about Freire I sometimes felt like he thought the education system was the ONLY hope for change. I think while it can be a big part, there are other avenues to ensure change.]]> 2017-10-05 20:09:46 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194494237 Kelsey Simpson https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194494721 I agree Meg! His views are definitely important, but in contrast to Elder Bednar, they are not spiritually related]]> 2017-10-05 20:11:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194494721 Meg Glancy meggie_7210 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194544385 That's a fantastic insight, "he just didn't have the spiritual vocabulary for it." I didn't know how to say it, but you hit the nail right on the head.]]> 2017-10-06 02:36:25 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194544385 Meg Glancy meggie_7210 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194545556 Yeah, I got that same impression. But, upon further reflection, perhaps it is because he was already involved in education that he decided to advocate for schools to be a channel for change in society and the world at large. ]]> 2017-10-06 02:48:09 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194545556 I like what you're saying about service being how we learn. I liken it to visiting teaching. I didn't truly understand it nor did I gain a testimony of it until I did it and sought opportunities to serve and pray for the sisters I had contact with. I'm thankful for what I have learned through service. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194735910 -Elizabeth Graham]]> 2017-10-06 15:32:36 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194735910 Well said Nia https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194740900 2017-10-06 15:42:20 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194740900 Well said Nia. I loved teaching students and building connections with them. These connections helped show them that the things they were learning could apply to their own lives. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194740911 And yes, I would definitely want to learn from someone with actual experience. Good point

-Elizabeth Graham]]> 2017-10-06 15:42:21 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194740911 Sydney Beck Response 135sbeck23 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194793499 I like how Elder Bednar is all about Learning all that you can in this life time, he focuses more on how to gain knowledge for ourselvess rather than how to each it to others]]> 2017-10-06 17:38:19 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194793499 Sydney Beck Response 135sbeck23 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194795401 I love how he focuses on the spirtual aspect of teaching as well. i really like how he shows that you dont have to be alking about religious things to teach with the spi]]> 2017-10-06 17:42:15 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194795401 Ella Varone https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194850452 Something I really like about both of them is their drive to make a better world. They know that we have to take action. They also both believe in learning truth, and want a strong teacher/student relationship. ]]> 2017-10-06 20:27:49 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194850452 Ella Varone https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194850653 Freire mainly focuses on changing and improving society and the teachers and students roles in this. He believes in teaching current news, and not things that will eventually change]]> 2017-10-06 20:28:58 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194850653 Trish, I love how you said we need to work in our society instead of trying to overthrow the government. This is so important in social reconstruction, and in making a change. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194855524 -Josi Jorgensen]]> 2017-10-06 21:01:20 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194855524 Josi Jorgensen https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194855893 Meg, I love the points you made. He does have a lot to offer, but it is without a spiritual base; which is what differs him from Elder Bednar. ]]> 2017-10-06 21:03:58 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194855893 I really really love how Elder Bednar focuses on the importance of learning. It is a commandment to continue to learn. That is one of the reasons that we are on the earth, and wouldn't we want to learn more about God's greatest creations? Love that learning is so important in our religion. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194859735 Cassie Baisden

]]> 2017-10-06 21:42:49 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194859735 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860357 Something that I like about both of them ]]> 2017-10-06 21:49:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860357 Cassie Baisden https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860358 Something that I like about both of them is they both focus on the importance of education. Also about how education makes the world a better place because it does. ]]> 2017-10-06 21:49:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860358 Cassie Baisden https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860450 Freire discussed a lot about how education is important to contribute to society. I find this to be completely true and of great importance. What we learn now and continue to learn will help our country become a better place. We often rely on leaders because they know more and we can trust them. It is important to learn of things ourselves and have our own personal contribution.]]> 2017-10-06 21:50:37 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194860450 I also love that Elder Bednar talks about using the Holy Ghost in our lives to help us to learn. I know that as we are intune with the spirit we can learn better and learn more. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194861779 Cassie Baisden]]> 2017-10-06 22:07:44 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194861779 It is important to ponder and continue to study what we already know. Like in the gospel we are commanded to read the Book of Mormon daily. Just like education too, this is something that we should continue to nourish. https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194862192 2017-10-06 22:13:39 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194862192 Erika West https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194930180 I think it is very important for teachers to have an open discussion because it brings the class together, and the students will listen more. ]]> 2017-10-07 17:48:30 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194930180 Savannah Smith https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194937252 I agree with you about Elder Bednar and Freire about wanting education to be active. You made good compare and contrasts. 

]]> 2017-10-07 19:31:11 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194937252 Trish https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194937384 I agree with you about Freire's being in harmony with the gospel principles. Freire was very radical in his philosophy, which caused a lot of (needed) conflict in his area. I think the United State is a little different and we can work with the institutions we have. 

]]> 2017-10-07 19:33:32 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194937384 Heather McKendrick https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940057 I love this! I agree that in order to see change and growth, something has to be done. One must put effort into the learning process. :)]]> 2017-10-07 20:16:31 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940057 Heather McKendrick https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940138 Hello! I love this! I, too love that both of them have a similar drive to make the world better. When it comes doen to it that is one of the most important things that can come out of education. In whatver shape or form. ]]> 2017-10-07 20:17:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940138 Heather McKendrick https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940267 I think that this is a really well worded thought! Great job Abby! :)]]> 2017-10-07 20:19:48 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194940267 "Forget yourself and go to work..." Father or President Hinckley trishharrahill https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194948760 Trish Harrahill]]> 2017-10-07 23:48:47 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194948760 Cydnee Maikoski response cydneeelise https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194954576 I really like how you mention studying what we already know. It is important for us to do that because it helps us to remember the spiritual experiences we have. That has been so beneficial in my own life. When I think about scriptures that really strengthen my testimony or moments when I have really felt the Spirit, I am reminded of why I love this gospel so much.]]> 2017-10-08 02:49:17 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194954576 Cydnee Maikoski response cydneeelise https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194954722 They both definitely see a benefit to education!! Is there something that you really liked about either Bednar or Freire's teaching methods?]]> 2017-10-08 02:52:49 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194954722 Alexis Glazier https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194955067 I like the philosophy in progressivism to look at the world's problems and ask ourselves, "What are we going to do about it?"  Both  Elder Bednar and Freire encourage using the knowledge we have been given to tackle the problems ahead of us.

]]> 2017-10-08 03:01:41 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194955067 Alexis Glazier https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194955250 I liked how you mentioned drive to make a better world. Nothing is ever going to change unless we are proactive and use our learning to make a difference.]]> 2017-10-08 03:08:25 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194955250 Shannon, I https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194957426 I like what you said a lot. They are interconnected. Elder Bednar taught that we must learn from God. Freire taught that we must teach others to make a better world and to use what we learn to d so and bless the lives of thers which is ultimately serving God. So God gives us intelligence so that wecan use it to serve and glorify Him.]]> 2017-10-08 04:12:17 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194957426 Karoly, https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194959104 What really stodo out to me about your post was tht you mentioned that to both Elder Bednar nd Freire, students and teachers are one. I thought that was amazing as I felt the Spirit when I read that. And it definitely is how God desires it o be. As He mentioned in D&C "If ye are not one, ye are not mine."]]> 2017-10-08 04:22:28 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194959104 https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194959220 You're right he does however that is how we should learn. 
-Joseph Murray

]]> 2017-10-08 04:25:44 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194959220 Abbie Ferrin https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194962723 They both say that we should be agents to act and not objects to be acted upon. They both believe that learning is a very active process. ]]> 2017-10-08 05:57:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194962723 Abbie Ferrin https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194962760 I like that Freire believes that everything should be thought about and questioned. He believes that learning should be constant inquiry. ]]> 2017-10-08 05:58:50 UTC https://padlet.com/shellgourley/jr4ay5hqjuu4/wish/194962760