Should we close zoos? by Liz Webb https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis Comments on the video en-us 2016-11-17 10:46:10 UTC 2025-09-24 12:47:58 UTC hello@padlet.com Issues from the video https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138454744 2016-11-17 16:03:55 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138454744 Surplus animals at Copenhagen; Did they put the animal on ZIMS first? Try all the methods to get rid of the surplus animal before culling them? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138457902 2016-11-17 16:12:03 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138457902 Using contraception, is that right for the animal? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458076 2016-11-17 16:12:32 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458076 culling done very open https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458467 2016-11-17 16:13:27 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458467 Do we publicise culling? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458843 2016-11-17 16:14:19 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138458843 Good for education purposes and allowed them to see behaviour from lions as well. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459031 2016-11-17 16:14:44 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459031 don't keeping up with the most current animal needs https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459472 2016-11-17 16:15:51 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459472 Are the zoo's keeping up to date with welfare standards? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459505 2016-11-17 16:15:55 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459505 Research needs to be published in order for us to know that zoos are doing not only the best for their animals, but that they are doing everything they can to improve their ways. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459564 2016-11-17 16:16:03 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138459564 Zoos: are they for the animals or for the public? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138460182 2016-11-17 16:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138460182 Good idea to move animals from captivity to a sanctuary as they are very unlikely to survive back in the wild. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138460635 2016-11-17 16:18:36 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138460635 Public have a view that zoos must be a certain way which puts zoos under pressure to perform https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461066 2016-11-17 16:19:41 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461066 In the end, zoos need to assess whether or not the animals are 'coping'. If they are not, then something needs to be done (i.e. ultimate release program, sanctuaries), they cannot stay and suffer. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461141 2016-11-17 16:19:52 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461141 Elephants are not living to their expected life span in zoo's because of their environment. With improvements, the lifespans were increasing https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461563 2016-11-17 16:20:48 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461563 Do elephants live longer in Burma because they are active everyday even though it is hard work? At zoos are they 'bored'? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461977 2016-11-17 16:21:37 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138461977 Zoos need to consider whether animals are thriving; if they're not why keep them? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462046 2016-11-17 16:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462046 Why keep animals if their lifespans are shorted, even halved, in captivity? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462195 2016-11-17 16:22:03 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462195 Are all of the animals getting the correct nutrition that they require? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462615 2016-11-17 16:23:03 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462615 Stress and Obesity in Zoos - research into this needs to be applied ASAP for the sake of future generations. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462680 2016-11-17 16:23:13 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462680 Target training works with elephants; evidence shown in many zoo's. So why aren't all zoo's using this method with elephants? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462689 2016-11-17 16:23:15 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138462689 not all zoos learn from their past or their mistakes https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138463055 2016-11-17 16:23:59 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138463055 Do the public understand what behaviours the animals are actually showing? Stereotypies are not explained to the public enough. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464101 2016-11-17 16:26:05 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464101 Stereotypies need to be addressed asap. If it's seen in captivity and not in the wild, does that not show that they are better off in the wild? In order for animals to be kept in captivity, research needs to be carried out into reducing stereotypies to a minimum. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464431 If animals are given 'The life of Riley' why are they reacting so negatively to it? We can give them every aspect of the perfect life, the best food, a lot of entertainment, but that still does not eliminate stereotypies. If we cannot fully replicate their natural habitat, is it really ethical to let them live in this stressful captive situation. It's quality of life, not quantity.]]> 2016-11-17 16:26:42 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464431 Why don't keepers do more for their animals? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464563 2016-11-17 16:26:57 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464563 Stereotypies aren't explained because they don't want the public to know that they are suffering https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464900 2016-11-17 16:27:41 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138464900 #shutdownseaworld https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138466351 2016-11-17 16:30:40 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138466351 Their pools are too small compared to the masses of ocean that they cover https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138466827 2016-11-17 16:31:45 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138466827 3 deaths from Orca's in captivity? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467326 Something is going wrong here. Get them out of captivity, they do not belong there.]]> 2016-11-17 16:32:39 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467326 Keepers may want the best for their animals, but they also do not want the public to think they are in a bad situation, they will feed the public false information https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467501 2016-11-17 16:33:01 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467501 the animals killing the keepers/trainers show stress and sometimes abuse https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467797 2016-11-17 16:33:42 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467797 Is it really ethical FOR HUMANS to keep these wild animals? Are we not putting humans in danger by allowing them to interact/work with dangerous species. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467815 2016-11-17 16:33:43 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138467815 Evidence will never be completely given due to Seaworld not wanting the public numbers to decrease. They just want to money for the company https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468190 2016-11-17 16:34:33 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468190 Responsibility and naivity https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468352 Is it naive for us to think that because we have trained the animals that they are no longer dangerous? zoo keepers must take responsibility for their chosen career which poses risks. ]]> 2016-11-17 16:34:56 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468352 Zoos are always going to be bias to avoid the public creating a negative image. They are very, very rarely going to share every gruesome detail. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468449 2016-11-17 16:35:10 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138468449 If they do suffer more psychological problems in captivity, they probably wont publish these findings. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469040 2016-11-17 16:36:26 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469040 If they think that their animals are thriving in their 'habitat', its difficult to imagine what else they think about their animals welfare. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469485 2016-11-17 16:37:20 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469485 How can species be content with being confined in four walls when most have free ranging habitats. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469527 2016-11-17 16:37:26 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469527 If we are free to roam the whole world, why aren't animals? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469622 2016-11-17 16:37:39 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469622 How can they compare a swimming bowl to the ocean as a suitable habitat? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469634 2016-11-17 16:37:40 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138469634 For most animals to thrive, it would cost a lot of money therefore zoo's wont spend their money on giving the animals that little bit extra. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470134 2016-11-17 16:38:49 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470134 It is important for zoos to have an understanding of solitary animals such as polar bears and snow leopards who only meet to mate. E.g. port lympne have two snow leopards in the same, small enclosure. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470253 2016-11-17 16:39:05 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470253 can't a 10 million pound enclosure for polar bears not be utilized for in-situ conservation efforts? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470377 2016-11-17 16:39:17 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138470377 Once again, HUMANS are causing the problem https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472102 2016-11-17 16:42:51 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472102 Condors are only threatened with extinction due to humans , putting them in this vortex of doom https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472267 2016-11-17 16:43:12 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472267 Dramatic music https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472299 Documentaries adding dramatic music to subconsciously lean the public opinions in the direction they want them, potentially changing the opinion of viewers and providing inaccurate information. ]]> 2016-11-17 16:43:16 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138472299 If a zoo only has funding for two polar bears (for example) is it really fair when they would meet so many more in the wild? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138473764 2016-11-17 16:46:28 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138473764 Is it feesable? Is it worth it? Money could be spent insitu. https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138474248 2016-11-17 16:47:38 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138474248 Why release animals into the wild when the reason they had to be reintroduced has not been addressed (ie shooting) - is it not wasting money and time and effort https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138474543 2016-11-17 16:48:19 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138474543 Not everyone's behaviour will change, not everyone will change their mind, not everyone cares. Unfortunately! https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138475072 2016-11-17 16:49:34 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138475072 Are we, as humans, not the main problem? https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138475083 2016-11-17 16:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/138475083 Welfare https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/139785361 Do]]> 2016-11-24 15:56:22 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/139785361 Welfare https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/139785363 Do zoos really keep up to minimum standards of welfare even when stereotypic behaviours are consistently seen in some species?]]> 2016-11-24 15:56:22 UTC https://padlet.com/elizabeth_webb2/jle6d02dcmis/wish/139785363