What does the RMS data tell you and why? by Melanie Buntichai https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg en-us 2020-08-11 15:54:47 UTC 2023-07-01 16:33:55 UTC hello@padlet.com I thought we were doing better, it's hard to see it so disproportionate. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677521510 2020-08-12 17:33:31 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677521510 We are failing https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677521857 If we truly believe in the theory of MTSS and are universally applying supports, engaging curriculum, and restorative justice (not discipline), referral data should emulate demographics. But this looks exactly like the data on police shootings]]> 2020-08-12 17:33:43 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677521857 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522407 I wonder why the school population racial data doesn't matched the referral data (e.g. why is there no "unknown" or "declined to state" on our schoolwide population)]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:02 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522407 I was under the impression things were better than they are. It is disheartening to to see. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522433 2020-08-12 17:34:03 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522433 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522912 That unconsciously our black students are being pushed  to the side by just 
giving them referrals and not trying to support them in whatever situation they are going through ]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:20 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522912 This data has looked the same for the last 3 decades. I am not surprised just disappointed that we as a school, district, and city are looking to change the students experience versus changing the school system to provide a new experience for our black students. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522956 2020-08-12 17:34:21 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677522956 It says that a small proportion of students are being referred the most by teachers. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523072 2020-08-12 17:34:25 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523072 I wonder if there is something structurally within school systems that contributes to this overwhelming trend. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523089 2020-08-12 17:34:26 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523089 it is very clear we are failing our black and brown students but it is not surprising to me. I have seen the way we deal with our POC students and the data matches. The school tends to referral their POC students instead of finding better , more positive, and useful strategies to help our youth. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523094 2020-08-12 17:34:26 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523094 Reaching and supporting our students https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523144 How can we support our AA/Black students better as they deal with generational trauma and racism?]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:28 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523144 Curious about how our implicit biases play into this data! prangea https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523243 2020-08-12 17:34:31 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523243 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523257 Our referral process is harmful and ineffective. We need to work on more restorative practices. ]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:32 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523257 I'm afraid it's a slippery slope; once a kid gets a referral, they are more likely to get another one, and another, and another . . . https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523296 2020-08-12 17:34:33 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523296 esthermyrtti https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523377 From the referral data, I can infer that students are internalizing their label as being "bad" students, which is a contributing factor to the school-to-prison pipeline. How can we improve our classroom environments to keep students safe and engaged instead of in the office? ]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:35 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523377 3% of our student population = over 33% of disciplinary referrals. This saddens me. laub1 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523483 2020-08-12 17:34:39 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523483 chart https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523514 2020-08-12 17:34:40 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523514 3.5% of our students account for 36% of our referrals. (african american EXCLUDING decline to state / unknown / multi) https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523515 43% of our students account for 0.5% of our referrals. (asian)

That's stark.]]> 2020-08-12 17:34:40 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523515 I think it tells us that we need to do some very serious reflection about why this is happening. Take that responsibility that Abrams and D'Angelo were talking about and try to rectify this situation. levinej2 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523657 2020-08-12 17:34:45 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523657 When I write a referral am I being fair? Do I lose my patience quicker with AA kids then their asian or white counter parts? https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523661 2020-08-12 17:34:46 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523661 As much time as we spend talking about & focusing on our AA students and closing the achievement gap we're doing something so deeply wrong if that is our discipline data. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523891 2020-08-12 17:34:54 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677523891 There are huge inequities as to who is getting referrals. EEK! https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524189 2020-08-12 17:35:03 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524189 schools are a microcosm of racism and society at large. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524636 2020-08-12 17:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524636 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524890 What infractions or violations of school policy or code are these referrrals being written for? 

]]> 2020-08-12 17:35:27 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524890 This is very concerning and makes me think of school to prison pipeline https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524906 2020-08-12 17:35:27 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677524906 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525295 how do we get marginalized students the support they need to be successful? referrals don't work.]]> 2020-08-12 17:35:39 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525295 There's a correlation between students being of color and their receiving referrals. The relationship between these is likely more complex than what their experience is in our individual classrooms, but it'd seem we could do better https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525324 2020-08-12 17:35:40 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525324 3.7 % of school population- 32% of write-ups. yuck https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525726 2020-08-12 17:35:54 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525726 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525949 Seems like once a student gets one referral they're more likely to get others because now they carry this "troublemaker" label. Would similar behavior from a student whose never gotten a referral warrant a referral?]]> 2020-08-12 17:36:03 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525949 We have A LOT of work as educators for social justice https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525964 2020-08-12 17:36:03 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677525964 There are not "bad" students only bad policies. Our discipline process should address this. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526603 2020-08-12 17:36:27 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526603 Treating our AA students as an isolated group with special needs is not serving them - or any other student who witnesses this on-going discrimination! We need to look at school systems & referrals (and culture and climate and behavior and support) on a bigger/broader level. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526614 2020-08-12 17:36:27 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526614 Reviewing policy is an important step we can take in ensuring we are not creating the data we see. stachonm https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526798 How can we create policies that support our youth of color instead of separate.]]> 2020-08-12 17:36:35 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526798 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526871 We are not supporting all of our students to bring their best selves to school.

]]> 2020-08-12 17:36:37 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526871 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526943 This is what we're accomplishing ...]]> 2020-08-12 17:36:39 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677526943 Do cultural differences/biases allow us to ignore behaviors by non black students that we would write referrals for for black students? prangea https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677527695 2020-08-12 17:37:05 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677527695 What can we do to better connect our AA kiddos to the community, so that they feel safe and part of the larger school body. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677527724 2020-08-12 17:37:07 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677527724 Once a student gets a referral what happens? What real restorative justice is happening? Are students repairing harm and understanding the harm that they have done to the community? prangea https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677529234 2020-08-12 17:37:59 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677529234 racial bias which affects the decisions we take towards individuals based by their race/appearance https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677529468 2020-08-12 17:38:06 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677529468 Welcome to 4th Grade https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530033 2020-08-12 17:38:25 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530033 Majority of referrals are disproportional to demographics https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530305 2020-08-12 17:38:35 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530305 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530393 How can we (staff) better show up for our students of color? How can our Black students feel like a part of the community when they are being policed by adults in the building? ]]> 2020-08-12 17:38:37 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677530393 I see a lot of comments about how our discipline data mirrors school-to-prison pipeline data, yet we talk about needing to prepare our students for the "real world." Let's work to prepare our students for a better world. https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677531812 2020-08-12 17:39:24 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677531812 https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677532138 We are building negative norms and expectations for black and brown families. On the other side of the coin, we need to find ways to hold all students and families accountable.

]]> 2020-08-12 17:39:35 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677532138 There are specific targeted Black male students who reflect these referrals https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677532836 2020-08-12 17:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677532836 How else can we deal with disruptions https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677533052 2020-08-12 17:40:04 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677533052 I https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677534208 2020-08-12 17:40:43 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677534208 notice there is only ONE referral for Asian American student (we have more than 300 students) buntichaim https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677538878 2020-08-12 17:43:26 UTC https://padlet.com/buntichaim/jhrgf0fxyt7czctg/wish/677538878