de Crevecoeur by Maureen Young https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb Letter Ix en-us 2017-11-29 18:56:53 UTC 2018-07-19 16:59:51 UTC hello@padlet.com Group 4 (11, 12, 13) grubejar000 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211615021 P11: In paragraph 11 John de Crevecoeur talks about how people that have been taught to destroy will always destroy and they will be the downfall of nations. John de Crevecoeur in the second part writes that a sucessful nation will cost a lot, mainly blood. In the last part John writes that no matter what type of government you have as a nation it will have the same fate whether is because of outside forces or forces that are from the inside that nation will end. He writes that no matter what, someone will always be better than you. 

P12: Why would people want to live in overcrowded cities where they don't have enough resources for everybody and their voices carry little weight in politics? Both the woods and the city are evil but the evil in the woods is lesser than that of the city. When will people stop being born in these cities that are rampant with crime, disease, suffering, and other bad happenings?

P13: John de Crevecoeur apologizes for all of the sad things that had happened in his letter. Then he was walking and the air felt aggitated as there was a sudden shower and a rough voice speaking in monosyllables. He came to discover a cage hanging from the limbs of a tree and as he drew closer he had come to realize that there was a man in the cage who was being tortured by birds of prey. John felt sorry for the man and started to say that no human being deserved to be treated in such a manner. He tells the man that if he had a bullet in his gun he would put him out of his misery then moves onto his dining destination and when he had arrived he had learned that the man was there because he had killed the plantation overseer.]]> 2017-11-29 20:12:38 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211615021 Group 3, (8, 9, 10) https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211616410 8 - Crevecoeur tells a story about people not wanting to be told what to do with their slaves. He then says that people think slavery is fine, simply because it has been done everywhere, but then speaks about how awful it really was and he explains how unfair it is that we are taking them from their lives of freedom. He also wishes that there was some great power that could keep human morals in check.
9 - 10 - You have been voted off the island.]]> 2017-11-29 20:15:17 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211616410 Erika's responses https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211623724 Group 4:  This definitely shows that this letter has a different point of view in America than the third letter, which was heavily sweet and painted America as the best place to go to. 
Group 3:  People tend to do what's socially right or accepted, not morally right; if something is wrong, it's hard to stand up and point it out when it's socially acceptable and 'everyone else does it'. People need to start following their own mindset and what is morally right, instead of following everyone else, even when it is not morally right. 
Group 2: I remember learning in 101 and history last year, men dominating women was the norm, it always has been in history. It's very frustrating because men are not superior to women and I don't understand how or why that ever was normal

]]> 2017-11-29 20:31:06 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211623724 Second Group 5, 6, 7 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211624416 First Part 5: If slaves are allowed to have children, it’ll only cause more trouble for the fathers. Instead of worry about only himself he now has a family. “They have no time to tenderly care for their helpless offspring or enjoy the delight of being a Parent 
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Middle part 5: You are born into your social class. Men were to control the women and children, and were brutal when it came to punishment. Had to be cautious of slaves turning on you in your sleep.

End part 5: The trip to the West-Indies isn’t the best for the slaves but after they finish their work for their masters, the land is cheaper here. Wondering why man was created and what the purpose of them was. Slaves are happier here in the West-Indies.  




Paragraph 6:
The slaves are well taken care of. In some cases they enjoy life more than lower class whites. Even to the extent that when they’re emancipated they feel regret, because that’s all they know and that’s how they were raised. It’s possible that they had a good relationship with their master. 


Paragraph 7: Goes on to explain that he doesn’t understand why everyone isn’t treated the same. “Is it really true that those blacks are incapable of feeling spurs of emulation - (Basically to have goals) - Then explains they have the same hearts as english men.

No methods have been made to rescue or give rights to the slaves. Everything that their “Masters” do to them are just fueling hatred for the americans. Instead of rewarding or coaxing the slaves to do hard labour, they are met with terrors and punishments.

]]> 2017-11-29 20:32:52 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211624416 Jayden https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211625224 Group 1:  Slave owners treat their slaves as lesser than a dog, and its the slaves fault that they're slaves.


]]> 2017-11-29 20:35:02 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211625224 Keite https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211625456 group-5,6,7: have to do with slaves and freedom
group-8,9,10:excuses
group-11,12,13: things that are necessary for a country

]]> 2017-11-29 20:35:40 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211625456 Bret vonrubre001 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211626236 The first group  can connect with my group, group 4,  posts about the harsh treatment of slaves. 
The Second group also can connect to the harsh treatment of slaves saying that they were not allowed to create offspring because it would cause more trouble.
The Third group  also speaks of slavery except that he disagrees with it and wishes that there was a higher power that could keep peoples morals in check.]]> 2017-11-29 20:37:40 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211626236 Jaz's Responses arentjaz000 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211626702 group 1: this relates to paragraph 5 for slaves coming to the West-Indies for a better environment after they serve their masters

group 3: this relates to paragraph 5 because the men treated the women/children/slaves harshly 

group 4: The last part relates to my group(2) because that man in the cage was helpless just as the slaves were. The birds picking at the man were like the masters torturing the slaves in the same sense]]> 2017-11-29 20:38:41 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211626702 Zachary Julson julsozac000 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211629186 group 5-7
so its mostly about positions in society and the opportunities of the Indies after freedom
group 8-10
old just cause everyone else is doing it excuse
group 11-13
so de Crevecoeur talks about the necessary things for a country to do as well as the freedom everyone seeks, also how all of this is sad]]> 2017-11-29 20:44:49 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211629186 Alex https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211629444 Crevecour speaks a lot about the evils of slavery, but I enjoy how he also goes into the reasons why he thinks people are alright with the concept.]]> 2017-11-29 20:45:28 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211629444 Ben Responses https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630246 group 5,6,7 
Its about people positions in society and freedom
group 8,9,10
people are following everyones actions
group 11,12,13
thing a country can do and it is sad ]]> 2017-11-29 20:47:38 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630246 Rainee's Responses anderrai000 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630420 group 1 I was very surprised that they took slaves from guinea because I always thought slaves were taken strictly from africa
group 3 Its a common problem that people are so acquainted with something so bad that they become numb to the reality of the abuse of slavery
group 4 People who have been taught to destroy and will always destroy. Thats kind of interesting to think about.. What if we raised future generations on the contrary? makes you think...]]> 2017-11-29 20:48:05 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630420 derrick https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630539 Group 4. in paragraph 4 it talked about the harsh treatment of slaves and that relates to #5 by them being born into slavery or their social class.
The second paragraph can also relate to harsh treatment because it talks about how they went to the west indies to escape it. Paragraph 8 also relates because they didn't want to be told how to control their slaves.]]> 2017-11-29 20:48:26 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211630539 Group 3( 2nd part of 10) https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211632866 de Crevecour talked about how he believed the stragglers from around the world don't deserve to be called men. He spoke with disgust when speaking of different countries.]]> 2017-11-29 20:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211632866 Logan R. https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211651388 Group 1: It seems to relate to paragraph 5 because the slaves want a better environment.
Group 3: The men were mean and didn't treat people with a lot of respect, especially women.
Group 4: The writing is about freedom and what a country has to do to obtain it. And, how slaves we pretty much born into slavery depending on their family.]]> 2017-11-29 22:01:20 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211651388 Jared's Respones grubejar000 https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211671197 Group 1: Talks a lot about slaves and society as a whole. The rich have all influences and slavery is wrong but people still do it. 

Group 2:  It agains talks about slavery and society but it says that male slaves shouldn't have kids because it will be really hard for them. They also talk about how men had control over their wives and kids and could punish them harshly if need be. The second group also talks about the West Indies and how much better that place is for slaves compared to any other place. 

Group 3: Is about John going around and seeing why people own slaves and he finds out that own slaves because others have done it before them. John tells them that slaverly is wrong and the evils of slaverly. ]]> 2017-11-30 00:20:49 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211671197 Lilah's Responses https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211932721 Group 1: explains everything about the slaves lives also explains how the masters feel about their slaves. We've learned about some of this in history class like about how the slaves are treated.

Group 2:  Tells us how they are able to have children but it's more of a burden then anything. Also says that he doesn't understand why they are treated wrong when everyone is the same. Which is how i feels about that because i don't understand how people can be so cruel even today. 

Group 3: Says that people are saying it is okay for slavery to be a thing because other people are doing it and he was talking about other countries in disgust. That happens now like bullies say its okay to make people feel bad because other people are doing it. ]]> 2017-11-30 16:24:18 UTC https://padlet.com/myoungspartan/jeddtfmoaetb/wish/211932721