Breakout Question 1: For a traditional organization, what’s likely to be the most difficult challenge in dismantling bureaucracy and building a culture of distributed leadership? by Humanocracy

Breakout Question 1: For a traditional organization, what’s likely to be the most difficult challenge in dismantling bureaucracy and building a culture of distributed leadership? by Humanocracy https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1 Drucker Forum, October 28 en-us 2020-10-06 15:27:39 UTC 2021-05-21 14:25:25 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-uploads.storage.googleapis.com/772217795/b9b84b7338e823c0166ec21a519b9d68/vxa1bq21_400x400.jpg It's hard to adopt new mindsets and behaviors humanocracy https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/807153853 Even if they "see the light" during a training program or isolated personal experience, most people will revert to type once they're exposed to a traditional organizational context]]> 2020-10-06 15:30:58 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/807153853 Those who have power won't be inclined to give it up (i.e,. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas) humanocracy https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/807156188 2020-10-06 15:31:29 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/807156188 Bureaucracy is a well-integrated system--changing a single part won't make much difference, changing the whole thing is daunting humanocracy https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869478781 2020-10-28 13:20:47 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869478781 FEAR! https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869710609 2020-10-28 14:12:24 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869710609 Management Ego and Status https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869712585 Management is also trapped in the conventional carrier thinking i.e. bigger team = more money. Moreover - who really wants to loose status and step back?

]]> 2020-10-28 14:12:50 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869712585 PEOPLE - right profiles https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713143 The hard thing about braking inertia in the direction of #autonomous teams is to be able to have the teams which will crave for ownership and are willing to go the extra mile to get it.
Mismanagement could kill it, entrepreneurial profile can lift it.]]> 2020-10-28 14:12:56 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713143 For the CEO to "let it go" https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713163 2020-10-28 14:12:56 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713163 It requires todays management to rethink their role and change from "control" to "input". https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713237 2020-10-28 14:12:57 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713237 Incentive Systems targeted at the past https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713357 2020-10-28 14:12:59 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713357 The absense of Experiment-Culture https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713385 2020-10-28 14:12:59 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713385 https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713560 Unwillingness to lose power]]> 2020-10-28 14:13:01 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713560 Fear of failure https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713927 2020-10-28 14:13:06 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869713927 Loosing control from old style leaders https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869714521 2020-10-28 14:13:14 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869714521 The current Managers often dont see the Need for change https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869716060 2020-10-28 14:13:31 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869716060 culture https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869716695 2020-10-28 14:13:40 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869716695 Efficiency borisgloger https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869718273 the belive that an organization must be efficient. Bureaucracy is a result of that thinking. Management is an result of the fear, we might wast stuff.

]]> 2020-10-28 14:14:00 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869718273 the current structure is hard to dismantle on the go https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869718521 2020-10-28 14:14:03 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869718521 Immunity to change. https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869719579 Bureaucracy should serve the organisation, while it ends with the organisation serving the bureaucracy. those pattern are hard to break. Also you need to be able to keep activity going while leading change. it needs slack. ]]> 2020-10-28 14:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869719579 Fear to change. Uncertanty with the result https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869719845 2020-10-28 14:14:20 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869719845 Too Big https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869722090 It's overwhelming to try to change the whole system at once and challenging to know the right place to start - the right leaders, the right mindset, the right size, etc.]]> 2020-10-28 14:14:48 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869722090 Power structures and existing protocols https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869722746 2020-10-28 14:14:56 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869722746 The force and comfort of habit https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724105 2020-10-28 14:15:12 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724105 Coordination https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724399 Difficult to align between multiple teams and have overview]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:16 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724399 Leadership/Management truly believing in, trusting, and coaching employees https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724484 2020-10-28 14:15:17 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724484 https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724707 Legacy is hard to break, will need more leaders too drive one common goal to break this]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:20 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869724707 A fear to lose control over the organisation. https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869725354 2020-10-28 14:15:27 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869725354 Too much - too many https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869726138 Many leader want to change to much - with a wrong setup e.g. big changes with small teams in a wrong setting]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:37 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869726138 Agreeing that it is necessary and see that bureacracy is not the model for the future... https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869726389 2020-10-28 14:15:40 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869726389 Skills to provide a trusted alternative to bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is maintained by people who work collectively in a non-innovative manner. They check others, and dislike change. https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727051 2020-10-28 14:15:49 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727051 Collective Interest https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727459 Having a culture of thinking about collective interest rather than self interest or a small group interest]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:54 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727459 Educational and cultural background of employees https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727643 As employees of well established, bureaucratic organisations we have most likely been raised and educated to fit in and accept the traditional organisation structure.]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:57 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727643 Compensation https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727788 Executive Compensation must be directed toward the way of managing that engages all contributors.]]> 2020-10-28 14:15:59 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727788 Everything must be equal borisgloger https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727953 distributed leadership also means that ]]> 2020-10-28 14:16:01 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869727953 Hierarchy, mindset of managers https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869728939 2020-10-28 14:16:13 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869728939 Lack of incentives https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729073 2020-10-28 14:16:15 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729073 remuneration linked to output individual wants to 'own' https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729146 2020-10-28 14:16:16 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729146 Get the buy in from the executive team and key people https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729411 2020-10-28 14:16:20 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729411 Lack of courage https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729425 2020-10-28 14:16:20 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869729425 https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869732798 2020-10-28 14:17:03 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869732798 Fear of company management that performance will crash as a result of the change https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869733494 2020-10-28 14:17:11 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869733494 leadership is not incentivized to do things that might not work https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869733655 2020-10-28 14:17:14 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869733655 Habits marijandjic https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869735005 In order to make a change some efforts and the additional energy have to be invested in. More people (a team) have to initiate and pursue the change, until all accept it.]]> 2020-10-28 14:17:30 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869735005 missing organizational learning https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869737311 not enough experimentation and sharing newly found knowledge]]> 2020-10-28 14:17:59 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869737311 Missing role models of organisations , also on HOW you TRANSITION https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869737494 2020-10-28 14:18:02 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869737494 Alignment in the goal of changing and in how to accomplish https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869738403 2020-10-28 14:18:14 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869738403 moving from me to we is hard when we feel challenged, when we are fearful of the future for ourselves. We are operating with the wrong areas of the brain https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869739945 2020-10-28 14:18:34 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869739945 Time Horizons a5nc5cdi9e https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869740841 How to combine / align
- Now
- Tomorrow
- the Quarter
- the 5 Years Strategic Plan (or political term)
- the (really) Long Term

as some fruits cannot be harvested immediately...]]> 2020-10-28 14:18:46 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869740841 For top and senior management to be able to change posture, to redefine how they bring value https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869742003 2020-10-28 14:19:01 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869742003 Start-ups are great example of non-bureaucratic organisational cultures and forms. However they challenge often to scale up. Is there a challenge there ? https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869742771 2020-10-28 14:19:10 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869742771 https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869743045 Incentive to climb up the organization are difficult to give up. Startups or org that have a more open culture are more likely to be able to change the trad models. Other will struggle to achieve change ]]> 2020-10-28 14:19:14 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869743045 Fear https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869744682 - Of not complying with the rest of the organisation
- Getting out of comfort zone
- of clashing between generations
- Lacking information

]]> 2020-10-28 14:19:34 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869744682 For teams to find how to reactivate their agency (even when they demonstrate agency in their personal lives) https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869745404 2020-10-28 14:19:43 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869745404 So much complexity already. To dismantle the current model feels too much to do right now https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869748844 2020-10-28 14:20:27 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869748844 Lack of Courage https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869749007 2020-10-28 14:20:29 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869749007 'Commoditizing' trust https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869751802 2020-10-28 14:21:03 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869751802 being lucky and confident https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869754347 "I did well so far, no need to change"]]> 2020-10-28 14:21:35 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869754347 Lack of pain as a trigger to change? https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869757000 2020-10-28 14:22:08 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869757000 Lack of courage and support https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869761241 2020-10-28 14:23:02 UTC https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869761241 The MBA https://padlet.com/humanocracy/breakout1/wish/869771951 B-schools have taught us to be tyrants

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