Group E Old Major/Lenin Speeches by Kristen Leigh Forrelli https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38 Compare the use of ethos, pathos, and logos in Old Major's speech (pages 6-11) to Lenin's speech (posted in General channel) en-us 2020-10-26 03:00:08 UTC 2020-10-26 05:09:39 UTC hello@padlet.com kristenforrelli4_2 https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291277 The enemies of the working people, the landowners and
 capitalists say that the workers and peasants cannot live without
 them. “If it were not for us,” they say, “there would be nobody to
 maintain order, to give out work, and to compel people to work. If
 it were not for us everything would collapse, and the state would
 fall to pieces. We have been driven away, but chaos will bring us
 back again.”

This quote from Lenin's speech]]> 2020-10-26 03:00:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291277 kristenforrelli4_2 https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291278 An
army needs the strictest discipline; nevertheless the class conscious
workers succeeded in uniting the peasants, succeeded in
taking the old tsarist officers into their service, succeeded in
building a victorious army. 

This sentence shows value. It encourages the peasants to unite and be part of building a strong army. (Pathos)]]> 2020-10-26 03:00:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291278 kristenforrelli4_2 https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291279 The landowners and capitalists say that peasants can't live without 'them' . Which is referring to the enemies of the working people , the workers and the peasants have to prove that they can provide and distribute labour .

]]> 2020-10-26 03:00:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860291279 wilbertjap https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860455240 “Now, comrades, what is the nature of this life of ours? Let us
face it: our lives are miserable, laborious, and short. We are born,
we  are  given  just  so  much  food  as  will  keep  the  breath  in  our
bodies, and those of us who are capable of it are forced to work to
the  last  atom  of  our  strength;  and  the  very  instant  that  our
usefulness has come to an end we are slaughtered with hideous
cruelty. No animal in England knows the meaning of happiness or
leisure after he is a year old. 

This quotes from the Old Major Speech seems to be kind of inspirational.
]]> 2020-10-26 04:53:23 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860455240 rpaphilip https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860456768 A section that is mainly logos is when it is explaining in detail between animal and men to help the idea be more clear as ]]> 2020-10-26 04:54:16 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860456768 wilbertjap https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860462489 And even the miserable lives we lead are not allowed to reach
their natural span. For myself I do not grumble, for I am one of the
lucky ones. I am twelve years old and have had over four hundred
children. Such is the natural life of a pig. But no animal escapes the
cruel knife in the end. 
]]> 2020-10-26 04:57:38 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860462489 https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860476742 The Red Army established unprecedentedly firm discipline not
by means of the lash, but based on the intelligence, loyalty
and devotion of the workers and peasants themselves.
And so, to save the working people from the yoke of the
landowners and capitalists forever, to save them from the
restoration of their power, it is necessary to build up a great Red
Army of Labour. That army will be invincible if it is cemented by
labour discipline.
-Lenin

Lenin uses ethos/ the credibility and strength of the army to ;save' the working people from the landowners and capitalists Ethos]]> 2020-10-26 05:05:51 UTC https://padlet.com/kristenforrelli4_2/iflu3qhssvigr38/wish/860476742