https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5 en-us 2023-03-09 15:30:55 UTC 2023-03-17 01:40:30 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510650900 Hagar has a right to be angry and hurt because they were together for 19 years and for that to be thrown away by a man you thought loved you ends it with a letter and money. And it's worse because his letter was more of a "i'm sorry or not loving you anymore" instead of "I'm sorry for the hurt and betrayal.." it sort of just felt like he was making it about himself and apologizing to himself. The least he could've did was do it in person and maybe it wouldn't have been as bad or felt as sarcastic.Hagar's perspective is more plausible because of that.]]> 2023-03-09 17:24:50 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510650900 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510659184 Milkman's perspective is more plausible than Guitar's perspective.
- Milkman tries to talk Guitar out of being a part of the Seven Days because:
- They would become like who they are trying to get rid off, "Why do you want to be like them? Don't you want to be better than them?" (157)
- The Seven Days are just killing random white people instead of the ones who are guilty
- The people who they end up killing could be ones who support them, "What about the nice ones. Some whites made sacrifices for Negroes. Real Sacrifices" (Morrison 157)]]> 2023-03-09 17:30:39 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510659184 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510659433 Milkman's perspective: Left her because it is not what the relationship once was. To him it was like a flower. Where love blossomed but soon died. It has more to do with Milkman's future because he doesn't see himself with Hagar as the wife. He takes his time to figure out how to break it off without letting Hagar get wrong ideas so he writes a note and leaves money. He feels relieved that he broke it off because to him it felt like a nuisance to have. 

Who's was more plausible?
I think Hagar was more plausible because Hagar has a right to get mad when they been together over 3 decades and then breaks it off with a letter and even though that doesn't justify her trying to kill him. I guess those whack actions show that she was all about him the whole time while they were together because she has this "Youre with me or youre dead" mindset going on. So she got her reasons.]]> 2023-03-09 17:30:50 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510659433 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510663428 ROZZALYN,milkman grew up in a wealthy life where he didn't have to worry about how people seen him as. knowing his father Macon is in charge and milkman will soon take over the family business. This allows him to do what he wants without serious consequence?
milkman is more plausible
he has a better opportunity to live a good life.
he already has his life set for his future
  ]]> 2023-03-09 17:33:40 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510663428 chaye000 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510667003 Guitar is right about that because even the  ones who might look innocent but truly they could be evil or that somebody could attempt  to kill or maybe kill black people also that the seven days are evening out the race of blacks and white so it can remain balanced too. But we both agree that both of them were good but Guitar's perspective did get our attention as well that their should be an balance in this world as well that not all people are innocent even the one's who look innocent could be very much the opposite of innocent.]]> 2023-03-09 17:36:17 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510667003 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510669622 jackie- i think that Ruth's perspective was more plausible than Macon's because of some of the things that came up further in the book. Pilates information and remembrance of how Macon wanted Ruth to abort their unborn son matched up with what Ruth told Milkman on the train. i also think that its more believable that Macon killed Ruth's father because when he was younger he killed a man without remorse, and i think him saying ether killed him was a good excuse he could have made up.  i also think that Macon saying Ruth and her dad having a instinctual relationship is a very big claim to make, and i think he made up the things about Ruth being naked next to her father to make the way he hit her and treated her reasonable.]]> 2023-03-09 17:38:08 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510669622 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510669973 Milkman´s view is more plausible 
-Killing Innocent people
-Whites have made sacrifices on behalf of African American
-Proves that Guitar is reflecting prejudice, it´s  as equal to racist white murderers, no sense of morality
-guitar´s reason is only based on ignorance and emotion
-Love does not justify murder 
-He ´ ll get caught
-He will live a life full of murder, hate and loneliness

]]> 2023-03-09 17:38:20 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510669973 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510670740 Milkman's view on the mission of Seven Days is murder is murder. The group is no better than the racist white people. He claims that  "some whites made sacrifices for Negros," (157). The Seven Days are hypocrites compared to the hate crimes, "If they are as bad, as unnatural, as you say, why do you want to be like them?" (157). Milkman does not understand the point of their mission

Guitar does not think what they are doing is the worst thing. He feels like his actions are reasonable because he is not" for one, having fun; two, trying to gain power," (157). Because he is not like the many men killing out of angry and ill intentions, he is justifiable. Guitar is just balancing the score between hate crimes in the white/black communities, "It's necessary; it's got to be done. To keep the ratio the same," (155). Guitar feels this is just an eye for an eye and feels like these little killings are apart of a bigger picture.

I think the plausible perspective is Guitar because he has more experience with the effects of hate crimes. Milkman is sheltered by money, fame, laziness, and ignorance and doesn't witness the racism first-hand. Guitar grew up in the streets seeing racism, the KKK, and much more. Milkman speaks of this mission like a movie while Guitar speaks on it like life or death. ]]> 2023-03-09 17:38:53 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510670740 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510673031 Milkman stood up to his father after Macon hit Ruth. After doing so, Milkman felt pain, sorrow, shame, but glee at the same time. He felt guilty but was happy that he had the courage to defend his mother. Macon was surprised that Milkman was capable of this. He was humiliated and angry. Deep down, Macon was actually proud of his son for his bravery and boldness, but he would never admit to it.

Milkman's perspective is more plausible because he was doing the right thing by standing up for his mother. ]]> 2023-03-09 17:40:33 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510673031 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510844767 When Milkman sees Guitar at Tommy's barbershop talking about Emmit Till's death, Guitar is mad about what happened to Till. He is upset about the problems brought against African Americans. When Guitar tries to compare Milkman and Emmit Till Milkman just dismisses him as crazy. Milkman isn't interested in racial problems that consume blacks. Guitar's perspective is more valid because he understands what's going on and is angry about it. Milkman really don't care too much about the injustice that's being done.

]]> 2023-03-09 19:54:18 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2510844767 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512115339 Melany - Guitar grew up in a low income household .milkman and him, they don't see eye to eye on many thingsand that like he said in chapter 6. milkman always grew-up getting hand everthing and not working for it as guitar has working for everything he has .]]> 2023-03-10 17:07:26 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512115339 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512148937 Ruth's point of view is more plausible. an example is in chapter 5 when she's grieving her late father. Macon would say that the way she stayed with the deceased body in a perverted way, but in reality she needed closure and kissed on her father's fingers because they were the only part body that wasn't decomposing and rotting.]]> 2023-03-10 17:37:41 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512148937 https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512253113 I believe Milkman was more plausible because he was aware of how wrong there relationship was. He realized that the tension they had when they were 12 and 17 should have stayed there and not evolved into something else. Yes though Milkman wanted to end as well because he didn't feel that intimateness wasn't there anymore. "There was no excitement... his heart at the thought of her"( Morrison 91). Milkman refers to Hagar. I agree milkman was also more plausible because even though he was in the wrong he was also facing reality while Hagar was still dreaming. Hagar was in the relationship for the chase and thrill. " Years passed and his puppy breath came as fast as ever in Hagar's presence"( Morrison 92). Hagar was blinded by the feeling of power and control that she didn't even stop to think about how and why there relationship was wrong. She just liked the felling of knowing she had Milkman wrapped under her finger. I think they both didn't value each other and didn't have a future beyond intercourse. ]]> 2023-03-10 19:20:48 UTC https://padlet.com/csanford20/ifkr6oipixo7igj5/wish/2512253113