On Leaving / On Staying by Veronica Ros-Murillo https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying Answer at least two questions. If you are repeating what has already been said, you will not get any points. Be sure to read all comments before yours. You are only allowed to start the first response to ONE question. Wait until others to respond before answering the second one if the board is empty. You must also specifically comment on two other people's response. To earn full credit, you must show engagement and understanding of the conversation thread. Your responses should never be isolated remarks unless you are answering the question first. en-us 2020-06-09 19:20:50 UTC 2024-01-16 18:41:02 UTC hello@padlet.com 1022711 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705318658 Ideas that stand out to me are that the mother and daughter struggle in their own ways, but they still somehow correlate with each other. ]]> 2020-08-28 15:52:25 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705318658 10010582 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705323713 I believe the daughters situation I believe is more of a preparation.  She knows it's not an easy trip and is doing some things to be ready. The Mothers situation is realizing how bad the home situation is, and wants the best for her daughter. She is watching her get ready. ]]> 2020-08-28 15:53:49 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705323713 Some themes that are shown in the poems are survival, determination, and hope. 102375 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705336518 2020-08-28 15:57:44 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705336518 I believe the daughter's situation is she doesn't want to live this lifestyle of being poor and that she will do anything to live a better life so she is willing to risk it all because she doesn't have much to loose . The mother's situation is she is scared for her daughter but she know this is the right thing for her daughter to do. 1001283 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705338153 2020-08-28 15:58:16 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705338153 The idea of them struggling and needing to survive in a place that is full of crime and danger while living on there own 10037291 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705342170 2020-08-28 15:59:35 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705342170 1003047 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705346215 The daughter has shown to be confident and prepared to eemigrate, she shows this when mentions that her olders cusens have given her tips, she feels prepared and has being rpeparing for the worst.

]]> 2020-08-28 16:00:57 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705346215 10053831 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705346629 The idea of hope is very prominent in the stories. The mothers hope of wanting her daughter to be safe on her journey and to have a better life than she currently has.]]> 2020-08-28 16:01:03 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705346629 I believe the poems are about surviving and finding a new home. The poems take place in El Salvador. 102304 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705347370 2020-08-28 16:01:17 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705347370 10031821 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348054 One of the theme for the poems is determination to survive.]]> 2020-08-28 16:01:31 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348054 I think Garcia conveys her message mainly by characterization and imagery because she gives all those details to where you can imagine what they're going through but also gives details to know the characters personality and what they are feeling. 1003986 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348684 2020-08-28 16:01:43 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348684 The fact that they have to try their best to survive in a horrible place full of crime. 10013054 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348956 2020-08-28 16:01:49 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705348956 Self-efficacy is more on someone's own believe in being able to achieve something, while motivation is on someone's desire to achieve something. 10051642 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705349086 2020-08-28 16:01:51 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705349086 The ideas that stand out to me is that these people in the village are struggling because they really have no food and they are poor so they are trying their hardest to leave and live a better life. 1001283 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705353227 2020-08-28 16:03:08 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705353227 These poems are about the struggle a mother and daughter have to go through in central america and also around the world because its not something that's only in one place 10037291 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705355123 2020-08-28 16:03:44 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705355123 1022711 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705358554 I believe that the daughter has some faith in her own strength. I believe she has enough faith in herself to go and do her own thing. She believes she is strong and capable of being on her own with the dangers of the world and survival. ]]> 2020-08-28 16:04:48 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705358554 I believe that the daughter is in a situation where she wants to find better for herself and she has the motivation to do so. The daughter does know the struggle and dangers that she can come across on her journey. On the other hand the mother is in a situation where she wants the best for her daughter because she knows if her daughter stays with her she will starve. The mother does worry for her safety and hopes her daughter does not disappear. 1003723 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705358711 2020-08-28 16:04:51 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705358711 10010582 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705361055 I believe Self efficacy is how much confidence someone has in themselves to do something and Motivation could be brought from confidence of others to inspire you.]]> 2020-08-28 16:05:31 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705361055 10053831 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705362377 The poem is about how people are trying to survive in other countries and wanting to flee to safer places where there are better opportunities for them.]]> 2020-08-28 16:05:55 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705362377 10031821 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705362714 The daughter situation is making a journey and struggling with the obstacles. The mother situation is hoping her daughter will survive the tough journey.]]> 2020-08-28 16:06:01 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705362714 The daughters situation is having to leave becuase of the living situations and the state of mind that they are in. The mothers situation is letting her daughter leave even though she doesn't want her to but she wants to do what is best for her. 1003986 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705365001 2020-08-28 16:06:40 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705365001 I agree with noah that the daughter is making a lot of preparations for this journey and she remembering and going over all of the advice she was given by her cousins 10053831 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705367381 2020-08-28 16:07:17 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705367381 I believe that self-efficacy is different from motivation and determination because self-efficacy is begin able to survive and get your basic necessities by yourself. Motivation and determination is the desire and aversion of wanting to accomplish something. 1003723 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705373553 2020-08-28 16:09:00 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705373553 10053831 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705376238 I agree with Jamile that this poem covers multiple things such as the will to survive and the determination to keep going and the hope that she can have better opportunities in life than she currently has]]> 2020-08-28 16:09:46 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705376238 I believe that self-efficacy can only get you so far, depending on far you can go to accomplish something depends on your own motivation and determination, to push and better yourself. https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705381934 2020-08-28 16:11:27 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705381934 The idea of not having much to live for is what stands out for me. These people have very little access to food and water and this is one of the reasons as to why they leave their homes to find a better life. 102375 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705385952 2020-08-28 16:12:35 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705385952 10034011 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705395079 2020-08-28 16:15:05 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705395079 jdsf 10051642 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705395678 2020-08-28 16:15:16 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705395678 1023116 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705403706 Self-efficacy is someone's personal belief, where as determination is something you're willing to put your mind to and become or do better. ]]> 2020-08-28 16:17:40 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705403706 Self-efficacy is showing how much a person has confidence in themselves as how motivation is something that you can get from anything or anyone. 10013054 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705406803 2020-08-28 16:18:35 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705406803 I agree with Hailey that the idea or images that stand out have to be that the mother and daughter struggle, but correlate. The struggles they both face is the reason why the daughter is immigrating. The daughter is ready to leave and The mother ( although sad she is leaving) sends her daughter off with blessings. They both want the best for the little girl, despite the dangers. 10051642 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705408240 2020-08-28 16:19:00 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705408240 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705408266 Some ideals that stand out to me is the harshness and horrifying atrocities these women in central America had to undergo due to the power the men had over them. Many of these innocent women were just trying to find a better way of life without poverty and starvation, but a lot of them didn't live long enough to have the chance to build something new for themselves.]]> 2020-08-28 16:19:01 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705408266 I think the daughter is confident enough to protect herself with her own abilities. She has practiced whatever it takes to survive. 102304 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705412269 2020-08-28 16:20:12 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705412269 10034011 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705415219
  • These poems occur in Central America. The mother and daughter are both going through tough times and they decided to migrate to a better place in another country

    • ]]>     2020-08-28 16:21:06 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705415219     These poems are about how a mother and daughter struggle in central america. As well as everywhere else in the world bc its something thats world wide. 10013054 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705415808 2020-08-28 16:21:15 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705415808 A theme of the poem is that they are determined and motivated to survive. 10013054 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705427630 2020-08-28 16:24:36 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705427630 1023116 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705429088 What stands out to me is how parents will sacrifice everything just so their children can have a better living. ]]> 2020-08-28 16:24:59 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705429088 1023124 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705437717 the daughter was getting ready to head out while the mom is realizing that their situation is not the best.]]> 2020-08-28 16:27:29 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705437717 10034011 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705439728
  • Some themes that are shown in the poems are to have determination to survive and to also have hope.

    • ]]>     2020-08-28 16:28:04 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705439728     This is about a mother and a daughter struggle to make it and have a good life but its hard with everything going on in there life. https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705448093 2020-08-28 16:30:30 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705448093 1023124 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705459149 motivation is just a thought and determination is actually doing what you're thinking about.]]> 2020-08-28 16:33:43 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705459149 10034011 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705462592
  • Gracia conveys her message mainly by characterization and imagery ideas to give to the audience an expectation of the characters feelings.

    • ]]>     2020-08-28 16:34:43 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705462592     The daughter was leaving https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705470978 2020-08-28 16:37:07 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/705470978 I think the poems are about having a better understanding about what goes on everyday and how many people try to survive. This took place in Central America. 1023011 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/706421955 2020-08-29 03:59:17 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/706421955 1024201 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/713140849 2020-09-01 20:02:45 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/713140849 1024201 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/713155510 Garcia convey's her message in both poems by strongly relying on her use of voice and structure. There are multiple instances in both poems where phrases are paralleled, repeated or mimicked. These instances are found across both poems as well as individually in each. Voice is a strong element in her message, as the daughter's voice and the mother's voice differ greatly. This isn't necessarily due to their perspectives or situations, rather their personalities and experiences as a whole. The mother is much wiser and more accepting of what life has to give her, where her daughter is hungry for what's out there, she's curious and bravely willing to explore her curiosity. ]]> 2020-09-01 20:08:09 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/713155510 10037311 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/721254684 I think self-efficacy is someones belief to do something, while motivation is what persuaded them to do that something.]]> 2020-09-04 15:48:39 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/721254684 10037311 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/721262467 I agree with hailey, but I also think that the mother and daughter are equally scared as they are ready to have the daughter safe and somewhere she isn't going to struggle as much.]]> 2020-09-04 15:50:55 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/721262467 I think self inflation scene is when someone has efficacy to do something that can benefit other people not just them self and it's great motivation 10037804 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812333530 2020-10-08 01:29:59 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812333530 I think some themes and messages in these poems are That everybody has to do something risky and order to benefit 10037804 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812335907 2020-10-08 01:31:05 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812335907 I think that it is really important for people to have confidence in their own strength because then they think they can do it and it will turn out better than if they had doubts.I think my mom has self confidence and is strong and believes in her own strength . 10037804 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812342049 2020-10-08 01:33:58 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/812342049 https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/1827864761 The daughter has some faith in her own strength and has enough faith in herself to go and do her own thing because she proves to be strong, confident, and capable of being on her own with the dangers of the world and survival. She shows this when mentions that her older cousins have given her tips, she feels prepared and has been preparing for the worst. The other characters like her mother and cousins believe in her. The textual evidence that contradicts this view is when the mother says "She and her cousins are their own wealth. I see the strength in their arms and shoulders, blood that pumps through heart and lungs."]]> 2021-10-19 16:45:27 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/1827864761 t https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/2850834849 2024-01-16 18:41:02 UTC https://padlet.com/vros_murillo/onleavingonstaying/wish/2850834849