Distant Reading 2021 Class 02 by https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz Digital Tools and Textual Analysis en-us 2021-02-15 04:42:39 UTC 2021-02-15 13:39:54 UTC hello@padlet.com It is not because the fabula, (the series of events happening before it was composed into the sujet) did not really happen, that it cannot underly it. Discarding the underlying fabula as data because it did not happen, seems to contradict the Russian formalist idea of the fabula that is inherently fictional. https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203612225 2021-02-15 13:19:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203612225 What are the merits of using statistics in distant-reading? Are there cases in which you would also look at non-statistically relevant results? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203614357 2021-02-15 13:20:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203614357 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203614575 How does Rosenthal define narrative? (Does he?)]]> 2021-02-15 13:20:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203614575 Whiteness https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203616308 It is strange to me that these researchers claim that institutions are responsible for a lack of diversity while ALL of them are white. They are part of the problem.  Where are the people of color involved in the research project?]]> 2021-02-15 13:21:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203616308 Close reading and distant reading --> cannot go with / without each other? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203616518 2021-02-15 13:21:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203616518 “we found that authors with a foreign origin depict more segregation - with respect to origin - in the networks of their characters than actually exists in corresponding real-world networks. Conversely, authors who are born in the Netherlands seem to ‘underestimate’ the actual degree of segregation with respect to origin.” (p. 13)“In particular the integration of people with another ethnic origin is better established in literary fiction than in the actual world.” (p. 14) https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203618474 Question(s): To what extend is this a consequence of the corpus, like: if the corpus would have existed of more books written by authors with a foreign origin, would the representation of integration be more realistic? I.e. Does this article say more about the way social networks are represented in books, or rather about the books nominated for the LIBRIS prize? 

(authors do say something about this: "“It might be that in particular the books submitted to the LIBRIS prize provide something ‘extraordinary’ that points towards alternative worlds, while lowbrow fiction more often pictures rather traditional social structures. Hopefully, future research will shed light on the question whether books from different literary genres consist of different networks of relationships among the characters.” (p. 14)

]]> 2021-02-15 13:22:06 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203618474 (How does Fleming use/understand/explain) 'gegeneinander' https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619016 2021-02-15 13:22:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619016 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619223 Using our modern conception of "data" retroactively to diachronically describe a certain stance on the defining characteristics of the Victorian novel seems problematic provided that our understanding of objective reality unquestionably differs from that of 19th century perspectives. What Rosenthal is really doing is distinguishing the material world as science's primary object of study, and (indirect) representations of that world as the main subject of literature and literary studies. 

]]> 2021-02-15 13:22:23 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619223 I missed the connection between the novels studied in the Dutch studies and the the level of impact and "likeability" they had in local consumers. I dare not say translations but I wondered also. https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619405 2021-02-15 13:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619405 Can literature be seen as a mirror of society, or should you always keep in mind that literature is fiction, even when data about novels seem to fit the same pattern as data about real life? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619517 2021-02-15 13:22:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619517 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619900 Is Fiahlo et al. discussing the lack of experience in distant reading? I would say it is much more about interpretation vs. experience rather than digital vs. experience.]]> 2021-02-15 13:22:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203619900 Exemplary https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203621273 Isn't distant reading inherently exemplary too? ]]> 2021-02-15 13:23:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203621273 Where are connotations on the line between the experience and interpretation of literature? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203624132 2021-02-15 13:24:05 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203624132 What is the difference between reading without interpreting or reading to validate in close and distant reading? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203625490 2021-02-15 13:24:33 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203625490 Is the recursive relation as stated by Piper a possible solution for the tension between close and distant? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203628571 2021-02-15 13:25:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203628571 -I thought also regarding this story and the traditional type of styles used by the dutch writers (narrator approach for instance) and the fact that narrative in general is a rather totalitarian genre in its supposed format and formulaic approach not to mention market impositions, a further study could be (and perhaps this would be close reading) on innovation or style approaches to narrative by writers, and to this point are poets imagining something else in literary terms? And can you do DR with poetry? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203629169 2021-02-15 13:25:47 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203629169 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203631231 I think the phenomenon that is described (reading engagement as a result of succesful pedadogical strategies) is not exclusive to the teaching and reading of literature. Rather, what is discussed is symptomatic of the pedagogical/didactic deficit that many socities seem to be struggling with. Additionally, there is no mention of the external influences that might possibly negatively affect our readiness to engage with literature, or arts in general, in the first place (I would argue mainly the digitalisation of human life). ]]> 2021-02-15 13:26:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203631231 The data used in both V/d Deijl et al. and the Volker article contain books by Flemish authors as well, while both studies focus mainly on the Dutch society. They give accountability for this, but is that enough or does the data get blurred? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203633479 2021-02-15 13:27:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203633479 Is the kind of study undertaken by e.g. Fialho et al., focused on education and reading behaviors, really something literary scholars ought to undertake (rather than, say, those in social studies or education studies)? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203636538 2021-02-15 13:28:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203636538 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203640536 The authors are themselves structurally part of the literary institutions that they aim to critique. A complete lack of self-reflexivess in this regard seems to problematise the condiciveness of their contribution]]> 2021-02-15 13:29:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203640536 On categorizing, isn't it always arbitrary to a certain extent? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203640939 2021-02-15 13:29:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203640939 Is it accurate to equate data analysis and close reading, as Fleming seems to do? (And others as well) https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203641120 2021-02-15 13:29:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203641120 gjhoogdalem https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203643392 More of a meta-discussion point. What does it mean that science itself and scientific discussion and progression is a form of close reading and interpretation. In what ways can comparisons be made between the literary projects here discussed and the project of science as a whole?

]]> 2021-02-15 13:30:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203643392 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203647351 In general I miss awareness of historical developments ]]> 2021-02-15 13:31:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203647351 Data is "that which you cannot take a position on" https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203647799 Rosenthal presents a dichotomy. A textual analysis of a specific work is a narrative that shapes the reader's perception, where a graph simply presents information. Is this true? Or does data visualisation leave as much room for a subjective element as language does?]]> 2021-02-15 13:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203647799 What to do with changing characters? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203648894 2021-02-15 13:32:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203648894 gjhoogdalem https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203649523 When reading a book, you usually read one and not a whole set of books. In studying the meaning literature can evoke and studying the marvelous fact that there is literature to study, what can 'reading' a set of books learn us about this?]]> 2021-02-15 13:32:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203649523 Do we keep theories around in the Humanities because we're https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203653746 2021-02-15 13:34:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203653746 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203654127 If literary analysis is structurally different from empirical studies, for example, how may the field of distant reading then be visualized within or in relation to literary studies? (a method, a discipline, a field etc.)]]> 2021-02-15 13:34:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203654127 How could teaching/education models take into account reading experience? https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203657754 2021-02-15 13:35:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203657754 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203661258 Rosenthal argues that humanities scholars keep theories which are “incorrect”, so that we work with historical voices in mind. Yet are the humanities not as susceptible as natural science to paradigms (shifts) and trends?]]> 2021-02-15 13:36:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203661258 https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203671582 Is the interpreting/experiencing literature not a binary which we should try to bridge and which the study reifies? ]]> 2021-02-15 13:39:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ofialho/ie6uvfi3n7yfhccz/wish/1203671582