https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq Directions: Respond to your peers' thoughts and reactions below with an educated answer that's based on textual evidence from the play (use quotes or cite specific events). USE THE NAME of the person you're responding to, and remember our respectful online discussion guidelines (i.e., I respectfully disagree because... I agree with ____'s point about ____ because...). Make sure you respond to all of McGraw's questions from the first post at the top. en-us 2021-02-07 17:32:20 UTC 2021-02-12 02:28:28 UTC hello@padlet.com cmcgraw11 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1174020891 Hey, everyone! Here are discussion questions based on today's reading: 1) Point out several instances in which Capulet's actions have been contrary to his words. Why do you think Shakespeare made this choice in his characterization? How does Capulet's character, because of this, impact the plot, as well as Juliet's decision-making? AND 2) What has Capulet accomplished as a result of being so harsh to Juliet? Are there parents today who act like Capulet, and are results similar? Is this way of parenting effective, and why or why not? Share your thoughts. ]]> 2021-02-07 17:37:49 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1174020891 kimberlyh333 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1193582502 Capulet's actions always change when Juliet does not follow orders. When Juliet told her father that she did not want to marry Paris her called her hateful words just because she did not want to follow his orders. I think Shakespeare did this to his characterization so it would be a conflict between Romeo and Juliet. I think Capulet's character greatly impacts Juliet's decision- making and the plot because if she doesn't obey his orders he will become angry and say hateful things to her and threaten to do something. So her decision- making can affect the plot and how Capulet reacts. Since her father was so harsh on her she went to Friar Lawrence and ask for help. I think somewhere in the world there is parent's like Capulet and I believe that the results would be the same as them going to someone and asking them for help so you didn't have to do something you didn't want to. This way of parenting is effective because your child could feel like they had to obey you and follow your rules all the time. And so they are not happy at all and the parent probably don't even realize it.I agree with Perla’s point about how it impacts her decision making and the plot. Because she feels controlled so she does not feel happiness. And her decisions will affect the plot. - Kimberly Hazelwood  ]]> 2021-02-11 17:37:59 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1193582502 kaylab050 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194148947 I strongly agree with Kimberly because she had evidence to back up her reasoning. There's many parents and guardians that act like Capulet and the child may feel some type of way and try to find helpful advice from someone else. I feel like if Juliet didn't marry Paris Capulet was going to rebuke her more than he already does. --Kayla Bailey]]> 2021-02-11 19:15:53 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194148947 perlag049 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194301522 Capulet wanted Juliet to marry Paris but Juliet went against his will.Juliet was always told that in her father's eyes,she was a Jewel of his life.After she refused to do as her father said she became something much worse.I think Shakespeare made this choice of characterization because he needed something to make it harder for Romeo and Juliet to be together and he needed some type of block in there love.It impacts in a really sad and negative way because now it's harder for Juliet to find happiness and it impacted the plot because of how hard he made it for Juliet to make a decision.Capulet accomplished that Juliet got away from him and she goes to friar lawrence.Yes there are parents that are like Capulet and it is very bad because they distance them selves from there children and cause more problems just like with Romeo and Juliet.I don't think it is very effective because the children of the adults will find other people to help.It makes them distanced from there children and there children feel worse.There children aren't happy and don't feel loved and appreciated.~Perla G]]> 2021-02-11 19:45:01 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194301522 perlag049 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194345229 I agree with Kimberly what she says about Capulet and how he affected Juliet.I like to see how well she explained her point of view and how much reasoning she had to back up her answer.Great job on your work Kimberly.~Perla G]]> 2021-02-11 19:54:18 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194345229 tylerl066 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194897121  Capulet is presented as a good father in many ways throughout the play and particularly in this extract. He tells Paris he can only marry Juliet if she says yes as well. "My will to her consent is but a part; / And she agreed, within her scope of choice / Lies my consent and fair according voice." (12-4 Act 1 Scene 2). This quotation shows that Capulet cares about his daughter's feelings and opinions. He directly links his consent with hers here and the rhyming couplets used exaggerate this point to the audience. This rhyming couplet also puts emphasis on the words "choice" and voice". The "voice" he is referring to is his own, rather than Juliet's, suggesting that Juliet only has a voice through him as her father. This shows that although Lord Capulet is a good father because he cares about her feelings, he does not want Juliet to have her own voice or opinions outside his. This reflects the attitudes to women's places in marriage and families at the time.  Later on in the play in Act 3 Scene 4 he talks with Paris and decides Juliet will marry Paris without her consent. He believes that she will be easily persuaded by her father "I think she will be ruled / In all respects by me. Nay, more, I doubt it not." (13-4 Act 3 Scene 4). Although Capulet seems to care for his daughter he does not respect her feelings throughout the play. The use of the word "ruled" shows that Lord Capulet has the final say in the matter, unlike in Act 1 Scene 2 when it seems like her choice is also important. Lord Capulet believes he is being a good father when he says yes to Paris but the audience sympathises with Juliet who he threatens to kick onto the street if she does not marry Paris. "hang, beg, starve, die in the streets, / For, by my soul, I’ll ne'er acknowledge thee," (193-4 Act 3 Scene 5). It is only at the end of the play when Lord Capulet makes peace with the Montagues and agrees to bury the lovers together that he seems to follow Juliet's wishes. Shakespeare begins the play by presenting him as a good father but complicates this impression through the rest of the play, at the end we are left with the impression is a complex father character who is both good and bad. ]]> 2021-02-11 22:50:39 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194897121 carmeng864 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194938148 i agree with Perla's point where is started to talk about how Capulet wanted Juliet to marry Paris, but since we the readers know that Lord Capulet and Lady Capulet dosen't know that Juilet really loves Romeo and even got married behind her parents backs. and this is why she really doesn't wanna to marry Paris. I think Shakespeare made this choice of characterization, because probably Shakespeare wanna to give suspense in the play for the people watching the play. And making the readers want to know what happen next in their realtionship. This impacts the plot in a very very sad way, and also a difficult decision because now its hard for Juilet? and what she going to do next to obey her parents or not and be with romeo her true love. They are some parents like Capulet today that they always tell their kids to do that and don't talk back. But this is not really good for them to do because their children will start doing this behind there backs. - Carmen Gonzalez ]]> 2021-02-11 23:12:27 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1194938148 arlethg059 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195124628 Capulet's words and actions sometimes don't match. He loves Juliet dearly and wants to see her happy."Despised, distressed, hated, martyred, killed! Why did this have to happen now? Why did Death have to ruin our wedding? Oh child! Oh child! My soul and not my child! You are dead! Oh no! My child is dead. My child will be buried, and so will my joys." But when she refuses to want to marry Paris he gets mad and yells at her and says many hurtful words and even saying that he would disown her.  "Graze where you will you shall not house with me." "hang, beg, starve, die in the streets.". I say he made these characterizations to show the conflict between the family and also Romeo and Juliet. He impacts the plot and Juilet's decision a lot. If she didn't follow what he ordered he would hurtful and bad things to juilet. He accomplished of her trying to fake suicide to get out of an arranged marriage she did not want and at the end her actually dying with her love. Yes and yes a lot of parents force there kids to do things they don't want and there kids come out depressed and suicidal or want to run away. No it is not effective it makes the kid distant and want to run away or go towards suicide. It makes the kids feel almost misarblle. - arleth garcia]]> 2021-02-12 01:29:23 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195124628 lizzyp554 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195138461 Capulet's actions have always changed throughout the play when Juliet disobeys him and calls her really disgusting names. In act 3 scene 5 it says " What is this? What is this fuzzy logic? What is this? I hear you say “proud” and “I thank you,” and then “no thank you” and “not proud,” you spoiled little girl. You’re not really giving me any thanks or showing me any pride. But get yourself ready for Thursday. You’re going to Saint Peter’s Church to marry Paris. And if you don’t go on your own, I’ll drag you there. You disgust me, you little bug! You worthless girl! You pale face!". I think Shakespeare made this choice about Capulets characterization to add a suspenseful plot during the play. Capulet's character changes during the play by his personality from being considerate to becoming an overbearing guardian. This impacts the plot because it creates more conflicts with Juliet. This affects Juliet's decision making when Capulet forces her to marry Paris. What he has accomplished from being harsh to Juliet is forcing her to make decisions behind his back. There is parents like this today and I feel like the results can be similar. I don't think this way of parenting is affective because it forces kids to do things behind their parent's back in fear of what they might say about it. -Lizzy Peña ]]> 2021-02-12 01:41:39 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195138461 lizzyp554 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195141198 I strongly agree with Arleth where she says that this is not an affective way of parenting because I also feel like it can make kids distant. -Lizzy Peña]]> 2021-02-12 01:44:12 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195141198 miyaz618 https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195188463 I agree with Kimberly's point about Capulet because the Capulet's actions have been contrary to his words several times. An example of this is when in Act 1, scene 2 it states "She’s the hopeful lady of my earth. But woo her, gentle Paris, get her heart; My will to her consent is but a part. And, she agreed, within her scope of choice Lies my consent and fair according voice" (Shakespeare lines 15-19). In this quote it shows how the Capulet dosen't want Juliet to marry Paris because she was too young, and he wanted her to consent to the marriage. He later contradicts this statement when he states in Act 3, scene 5 "Monday, ha ha! Well, Wednesday is too soon. O’ Thursday let it be.—O’ Thursday, tell her, She shall be married to this noble earl.— Will you be ready? Do you like this haste? We’ll keep no great ado: a friend or two" (Shakespeare lines 22-26). This shows how later on Capulet now wanted Juliet to marry Paris even though she was still thirteen, and didn't consent to the marriage. Another instance where the Capulet's actions have been contrary to his words is when the Capulet called Juliet many names as stated "hang thee, young baggage, disobedient wretch! I tell thee what: get thee to church o’ Thursday, Or never after look me in the face. Speak not; reply not; do not answer me. My fingers itch.—Wife, we scarce thought us blessed. That God had lent us but this only child, But now I see this one is one too much, And that we have a curse in having her. Out on her, hilding" (Shakespeare lines 166-175). This shows us how just because Juliet did not want to marry Paris, he called her "cursed", and a "wretch". While later on in Act 4, scene 5 he weeps over Juliet's death as stated "Despised, distressèd, hated, martyred, killed! Uncomfortable time, why cam’st thou now To murder, murder our solemnity? O child! O child! My soul and not my child! Dead art thou! Alack, my child is dead, And with my child my joys are burièd" (Shakespeare lines 65-70). This statement shows us how he contradicts himself again by saying two different things. Also, I think that Shakespeare made this choice in his characterization, to show the auidence this form of toxic parenting, and how it's not okay. Next, I also once again strongly agree with Kimberly that Capulet's character influences the plot by influencing Juliets descisons by geting angry, and calling Juliet names if she dosen't listen to what he says. What Capulet has accomplished as a result of being so harsh with Juliet, is for Juliet to try and kill herself since she feels it's her only escape. Finally, yes, there are parents like the Capulet, and the results are similar, and no, this type of parenting is not effective because children should never be forced to do something they don't want to, and it can be very damaging to them both physically, and mentally. -Miya Zheleznyak]]> 2021-02-12 02:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/cmcgraw11/idn9cfz4ij9z9uaq/wish/1195188463