Smith Ch. 8-14 Annotations Discussion by Holston Jennifer https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde Post two of your annotations from this section of the book. en-us 2021-12-13 13:12:41 UTC 2025-11-20 20:02:55 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f435.png "the most dangerous animal in a zoo is Man"(29). Conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947230478 this follows the discussion of the impact of humans on animals]]> 2021-12-14 15:03:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947230478 annotation https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947232117 "we set out like prisoners off to their execution"(32) Will Swartz]]> 2021-12-14 15:04:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947232117 "But what can you do when you love your father? Life goes on and you don't touch tigers" (39). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947236714 This shows how the lesson that Pi's father taught him was a significant moment in his life. Even though Pi, his brother, and his mom were initially very upset by this lesson, it did not ruin their relationship with his dad. -Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:06:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947236714 "Do you know which is the most dangerous in the zoo?" (31) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238094 It was very interesting that he put this in the  front of the zoo. That its wasnt actually an animal but a mirror showing that humans are just as dangerous as animals. Ellie Paronto]]> 2021-12-14 15:06:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238094 "Do you know which is the most dangerous animal in the zoo?... Behind it was a mirror"(31). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238256 impact of humans on animals]]> 2021-12-14 15:06:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238256 "I want you to remember this lesson for the rest of your lives" (34) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238343 This moment obviously had a major effect on him because he is still able to talk about it in major detail even when he is an adult. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:06:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947238343 "We commonly say the most dangerous animal in a zoo is Man"(29). jack https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947239011 explains impact of man and how we are the most destructive and dangerous

]]> 2021-12-14 15:06:47 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947239011 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947240288 "It was no longer a small alarm bell that was ringing in my head--they were big bells now, like the ones we heard from Sacred Heart of Jesus Church, not far from the zoo" (32). 

This talks about religion so I underlined it. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:07:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947240288 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947241482 "Life will defend itself no matter how small it is. Every animal is ferocious and dangerous" (Martel 38). 

I underlined it because it related to the theme of survival ~Sana]]> 2021-12-14 15:07:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947241482 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947242953 "In both cases, we look at an animal and see a mirror." (31)
Human obsession and an interesting point on zoology/humans ]]> 2021-12-14 15:08:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947242953 "Her face was flushed" (Martel 32). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947243398 This was how Pi's mother was described when his father decided to teach him and Ravi a lesson. Was she angry? fearful? worried? why was her face flushed?]]> 2021-12-14 15:08:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947243398 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947243983 "But now ther're all grown-up and wild and unpredictable"(37) Will ]]> 2021-12-14 15:08:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947243983 "The most dangerous animal in a zoo is Man...we mean how our species' excessive predatoriness has made the entire planet our prey" (29). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947244293 This quote shows the impact of mankind on the world around us. -Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:08:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947244293 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947245714 "life will defend itself no matter how small it is"(38). I think this is important in the book because it shows that almost all animals are the same while humans are diffrent.-stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:08:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947245714 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947246556 "Life will defend itself no matter how small it is. Every animal is ferocious and dangerous" (38). 

I underlined this because it seemed like the lesson of the father's lesson with the animals. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:09:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947246556 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947247327 "contrite" 
definition- feeling or expressing remorse ]]> 2021-12-14 15:09:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947247327 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947249133 "bleating" it means the crying of a goat. - stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:10:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947249133 "Mahisha, our Bengal tiger patriarch..." (33). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947249850 Is this the tiger that is on the cover?]]> 2021-12-14 15:10:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947249850 "Father was a natural. He made up for a lack of formal training with an intuitive gift and a keen eye" (40). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947250909 I marked this because it shows that Pi's father was a good zookeeper and cared for the animals even though he wasn't originally trained in this area. -Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:10:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947250909 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947251917 "Father was a natural." 
He thinks highly of his father]]> 2021-12-14 15:11:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947251917 "I learned the lesson that an animal is an animal, essentially and practically removed from us, twice: once with Father and once with Richard Parker" (31) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947251979 I specifically underlined the part where Richard Parker was mentioned because he is a character who has appeared multiple times but we still are unaware of who exactly he is. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:11:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947251979 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947252475 "Different animals have different flight distances and they gauge them in different ways" (39). 

I underlined this because it seemed like an idea that he was going to expand on. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:11:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947252475 "Getting animals used to the presence of humans is at the heart of the art and science of zookeeping"(39). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947253362 is this hard for the zoo keepers]]> 2021-12-14 15:11:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947253362 "Before any decision could be taken about what to do, she squeezed through a break in the roof bars of her cage and vanished in the night."-Tristan https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947256046
This shows that animals first instinct is to escape an enclosure. I marked this because it because I believe that zoos should be abolished unless used as rehab facilities.]]> 2021-12-14 15:12:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947256046 "Animals don't escape to somewhere but from something" (41). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947256154 This quote shows a main idea of this chapter. -Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:12:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947256154 in the first paragraph in chapter 9, a constant theme talked about is how every animal has its distance. Meaning they have a distance where they either choose fight or flight https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947257653 2021-12-14 15:13:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947257653 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947258461 "He had a knack for looking at an animal and guessing what was on its mind" (40).

I underlined this because in the chapter before, Pi's dad looked at him with the tiger lesson. I don't know anything about this book but there is a tiger on the cover so I felt like this was connected to the tiger lesson. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:13:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947258461 our tools for diminishing flight distance are... When it works, the result is an emotionally stable, stress-free wild animal..." (39/40). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947259981 What happens when the tools don't work? is this something we will explore as the book goes on?]]> 2021-12-14 15:13:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947259981 "Our tools for diminishing flight distance are the knowledge we have of an animal, the food and shelter we provide, the protection we afford" (39-40) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947260174 Underlined it because it relates to effective zoo-keeping habits. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:13:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947260174 "A Plague upon bad zoos with bad enclosures!"(40). Conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947260679 reasons for animals that escape]]> 2021-12-14 15:13:59 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947260679 "The obsession with putting ourselves at the centre of everything is the bane not only of theologians but also zoologists https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262240 this another one of Pi's philosophical quotes seen fairly often and all have deep meaning. We put ourselves first and in the sense of zoology, it can extremely harm other animals on this planet. For EX, We pollute for the benefit of ourselves but at the expense of animals. -jack]]> 2021-12-14 15:14:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262240 "I heard two things at that moment: Father saying " Never forget this lesson" as he looked on grimly..." (35) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262841 I think that fear is not a great way to teach your children the difference between right and wrong. However pi never forgot the lesson, but the lesson might not have been completely right- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:14:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262841 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262955 "All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange, sometimes inexplicable ways" (41). 

I underlined this because it seemed to be talking about more than zoos. Lucy]]> 2021-12-14 15:14:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947262955 "all things contain a level of madness that moves them in strange, sometimes inexplicable ways"(41). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947264447 2021-12-14 15:15:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947264447 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947265343 "gauge". It is important to know what gauge means to understand what pi says in the book.-stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:15:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947265343 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947265850 "Getting animals used to the presence of humans is at the heart of the art and science of zoology." 
Pi explains zoology in a deeper way]]> 2021-12-14 15:15:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947265850 "animals don't escape to somewhere, but for something" (Martel 41). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947266743 In this part of the book, Pi elaborates that animals act out or escape because of something that has frightened them, not because they are wild creatures. This fact interested me, so I underlined it. ~Sana ]]> 2021-12-14 15:15:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947266743 "He had a knack for looking at an animal and guessing what was on its mind"(40) will https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947266969 he is very intuitive, its almost an instinct for him. it is a skill. ]]> 2021-12-14 15:15:59 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947266969 "He made up for a lack of formal training with an intuitive gift and a keen eye" (40) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947267262 Shows that Pi's dad never had any training, but he still managed to be a good zookeeper due to his natural abilities. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:16:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947267262 "He had a knack for looking at an animal and guessing what was on its mind" (40). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947268438 this indicates that Pi's father is gentle and empathetic, and a good zookeeper despite his lack of a formal education.]]> 2021-12-14 15:16:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947268438 "Escaped zoo animals are not dangerous absconding criminals but simply wild creatures seeking to fit in" (42). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947268864 I marked this line because I thought that it was an interesting perspective on escaped zoo animals and that they are not intending to harm anything or anyone, since they are afraid of their surroundings. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:16:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947268864 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947269155 "... Rosie and Coycat never jumped out not because of constitutional weakness but simply because they had no reason to" (41). 

I underlined this because it seemed like the main idea of the leopard example. Lucy]]> 2021-12-14 15:16:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947269155 "Not a trace of the leopard was found for ten weeks"(42). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947271406 2021-12-14 15:17:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947271406 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947271612 This madness can be saving; it is part and parcel of the ability to adapt. Without it, no species would survive."
Common theme of survival shown here]]> 2021-12-14 15:17:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947271612 "get even closer... the bird will not cease until the three-hundred-yard limit is set again, or until heart and lungs fail" (39) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947272833 It is crazy how much animals will protect themselves. They will do everything that they can to stay safe even if it ends up in death. I find that insane.- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:18:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947272833 ''practically domesticated'' Tristan https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947273888 I feel like the word domesticated may be used a lot to show that these animals wouldn't be able to fend for themselves in the wild.]]> 2021-12-14 15:18:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947273888 "...often they are too set in their ways to reconstruct their subjective skills worlds and adapt to a new environment" (40) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947274331 Expresses that change does not come naturally for most animals, therefore many of them are unwilling to adapt to fit a new environment. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:18:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947274331 "Social rank is central to how it leads its life" (44). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947274702 I learned that how an animal acts is based on whether they feel superior to the people and animals around them or not. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:18:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947274702 "Richard Parker"(42). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275190 2021-12-14 15:18:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275190 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275253 I marked from the top of page 42 to the end of the top paragraph because it was talking about animals wanting to fit in. Next to this paragraph I wrote that it connects to Pi's story about wanting to fit in at school from earlier in the book. Lucy]]> 2021-12-14 15:18:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275253 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275599 "parcel"
I do not know the meaning of this word in this sentence ]]> 2021-12-14 15:19:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947275599 "All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange, sometimes inexplicable ways"(41) will https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947277487 i feel like this quote could be important later in the book. It could maybe explain or be true about some things that happen. ]]> 2021-12-14 15:19:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947277487 "He wants to tell me his story"(42). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947278292 2021-12-14 15:20:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947278292 "Memory is an ocean and he bobs on its surface" (42). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947278760 I thought that this was interesting. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:20:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947278760 "...escaped zoo animals are not dangerous absconding criminals but simply wild creatures seeking to fit in" (42). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279296 this quote summarizes Pi's point that the wild animals in the zoo are not ferocious, untamed beasts that will wreak havoc when unleashed; they are simply trying to get on with life and will adapt if needed]]> 2021-12-14 15:20:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279296 "Animals that escape go from the known into the unknown-and if there is one thing an animal hates above all else, it is the unknown" (41) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279404 Shows fear of change and fear of not being in control of your own life. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:20:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279404 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279971 "... zoo animals are not dangerous absconding criminals" (42). 

I underlined this because I thought it was an interesting way to describe an animal. Lucy]]> 2021-12-14 15:20:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947279971 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947281937 "... zoo animals are not dangerous absconding criminals, but simply wild creatures seeking to fit in."
It seems like Pi thinks of these animals as having human traits/feelings. ]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:18 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947281937 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282645 "I wont say that our zoo compared to the zoos of San Diego or Toronto or Berlin or Singapore". I marked this up because it shows Pi's character and that he s honest -stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282645 "He made up for a lack of formal training with an intuitive gift and a keep eye" (40) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282898 He thinks highly of his father and believes that he is a very good teacher. But it also tell us about their pass and that the father didnt have any formal training- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:40 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282898 "At times he gets agitated...It's his own story that does it" (42). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282916 I marked this because I wasn't sure why his memories make him upset. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:40 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947282916 "If you fall into a lions pit, the reason the lion will tear you apart is not because it's hungry...but because you've invaded its territory"(43). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283109 2021-12-14 15:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283109 "wild creatures seeking to fit in"(42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283419 this was how it was in school for him.]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:51 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283419 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283735 "Richard Parker still plays on his mind" (42). 

I underlined this because Richard Parker is still significant to him. lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:21:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283735 "What were they thinking?" (42). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283945 What does Pi mean? is he supportive or unsupportive of zoos?]]> 2021-12-14 15:22:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947283945 "Richard Parker still preys on his mind"(42 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947285754 2021-12-14 15:22:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947285754 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947286607 "absconding"
definition- avoiding arrest for an unlawful action ]]> 2021-12-14 15:22:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947286607 "And they expected to find-ha! In the middle of a Mexican tropical jungle, imagine! Ha! Ha!" (42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947287058 Just found the exclamation of laughter somewhat odd. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:23:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947287058 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947287120 "It's a complete lie" (42). 

I underlined this because it seemed significant or something I would want to come back to. Lucy]]> 2021-12-14 15:23:07 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947287120 "he will pay dearly if he slips to beta"(43). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947288631 social ranks of lions and zookepers]]> 2021-12-14 15:23:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947288631 ''The creatures were trembling with weakness as they frantically nibbled their kernels of corn.'' Tristan https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947288990 2021-12-14 15:23:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947288990 "There will always be animals that seek to escape from zoos" (40) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947289135 An animal can never be completely satisfied in a zoo thats why they would want to leave- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:23:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947289135 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947289758 "Richard Parker still preys on his mind"
Richard Parker is an important character ]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947289758 "...simply wild creatures seeking to fit in" (42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947290669 Everyone wishes to fit in, even animals. Interesting thought. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947290669 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947290999 "Memory is an ocean"
Interesting metaphor ]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947290999 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291633 "All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange, sometimes inexplicable ways"(41). I marked this up because it shows that Pi has taken his study of zoology and now compares what he see in animals in humans.-stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291633 "Socially inferior animals are the ones that make the most strenuous, resourceful efforts to get to know their keepers" (45). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291786 This goes back to the ideas from chapter 13 about animals and social rank, and explains why a socially inferior animal would feel safe when they are close to a zookeeper. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291786 "Much hostile and agressive behavior among animals is the expression of social insecurity"(43) will https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291914 this is psychology ]]> 2021-12-14 15:24:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947291914 "my digestive tract starts to twist and groan in agony like a boa constrictor that has swallowed a lawn mower" (43). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947292526 i wondered if this is a reference to feeding wild animals uningestible things, as Pi was very bitter about this before.]]> 2021-12-14 15:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947292526 "A close relationship will also mean protection" (45). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293346 Zookeepers and socially inferior animals. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:25:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293346 "It's a complete lie" (42). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293598 People lie in order to fit in, and sometimes they lie without even thinking about it. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:25:23 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293598 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293730 "Much hostile and aggressive behaviour among animals is the expression of social insecurity" (43).

I underlined this because it seemed like a big idea and I feel like sometimes people are insecure and that makes them behave in a different way. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:25:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293730 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293958 "Much hostile and aggressive behavior among animals is the expression of social insecurity."
Same can be said about humans/ human behavior ]]> 2021-12-14 15:25:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947293958 "...Richard Parker still preys on my mind" (42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947295777 He is brought up once again, but the question is why?-Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:26:07 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947295777 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296380 "Social rank is central to how it leads its life" (44). 

I underlined this because I feel like that could be true for people too. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:26:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296380 "The one that is able to intimidate its opponent is recognized as socially superior" (44). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296604 How the rank is decided between animals. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:26:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296604 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296930 Mr. Hediger "He was a man well versed in the ways of animals."
Pi looked up to him/ he might be important ]]> 2021-12-14 15:26:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296930 "All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange; sometimes unpredictable ways" (41) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296949 No matter how nice someone or something has it of we will always believe that it could be better and it is that madness that he is talking about that makes us think that.- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:26:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947296949 "At times he gets agitated"(42). I marked this up because I saw a lot of words used to describe this person and I think it may be important to know about later in the story. https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947300301 stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:27:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947300301 "A close relationship will also mean protection from the other members of the pride"(45). conor https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947300563 2021-12-14 15:27:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947300563 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301355 "strenuous"
definition- requiring or using great exertion]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301355 "Much hostile and aggressive behaviour among animals is the expression of social insecurity" (43). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301844 Insecurity is at the root of hostility and aggression. These behaviours help to put up a barrier and hide the insecurity. Keep people at a distance. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301844 "it's a question of brain over brawn. the nature of the circus trainer's ascendancy is psychological" (44). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301993 this shows a use of manipulation to make these wild animals behave, which i thought was quite cruel.]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947301993 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947302047 "...the lion is the most amenable to the circus trainer's tricks is the one with the lowest social standing in the pride, the omega animal" (44). 

I underlined this because I thought it contradicted Pi's fathers lesson about big animals. Lucy

]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947302047 "Rank determines whom it can associate with and how; where and when it can eat; where it can drink; and so on"(44) will https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947302725 this connects to the social class nowadays, some people assume they have to Associate with people the same rank as them, because that it what they were taught to do.]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947302725 "It wasn't god who saved me-it was medicine." https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303070 It was interesting that he said that considering how religious he is. Cole]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303070 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303437 "He was a sweet man"(42). I marked this up because I saw a lot of words used to describe this person and I think it may be important to know about later in the story.-stephen]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303437 "If there is one thing that an animals hates above all else, it is the unknown" (41). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303734 Animals do not want to escape because they are afraid of the unknown, but they will if they are scared of something in their territory. Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:28:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947303734 "escaped zoo animals are not dangerous" (42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947304263 While everyone else would have been scared he isnt... speaks to his charecter. - Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:29:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947304263 "...Basel Zoo..." (44) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947305082 Just curious on where this was. It's in Switzerland. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:29:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947305082 "phenomenon" - a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen, especially one whose cause or explanation is in question https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947306269 2021-12-14 15:29:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947306269 Claire https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947306927 "It is only a matter of extra treats."
Animals will only react/ respond to treats ]]> 2021-12-14 15:29:47 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947306927 "cantankerous"(45) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308323 bad-tempered, argumentative, and uncooperative.]]> 2021-12-14 15:30:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308323 "... wild creatures trying to fit in" (42) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308453 Animals want to fit in just like humans always want to- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:30:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308453 "All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange, and sometimes inexplicable ways...Without it, no species would survive" (41). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308909 Kathryn]]> 2021-12-14 15:30:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947308909 "intuitive gift and a keen eye." Tristan https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947309435 2021-12-14 15:30:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947309435 https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947309961 "Socially inferior animals are the ones that make the most strenuous, resourceful efforts to get to know their keepers" (45). 

I underlined this because it seemed important. Lucy ]]> 2021-12-14 15:30:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947309961 "Socially inferior animals are the ones that make the most strenuous, resourceful efforts to get to know their keepers" (45). https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947312563 Inferior creatures try to make connections with their superiors in order to gain protection and in some cases to increase their social standing. -Willa ]]> 2021-12-14 15:31:47 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947312563 richard parker https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947313162 still is talking about him- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:32:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947313162 cantankerous (45) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947316744 bad-tempered, argumentative, and uncooperative. -Willa

]]> 2021-12-14 15:33:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947316744 "the lion that is the most amenable to the circus trainer's tricks is the one with the lowest social standing in the pride, the omega animal" (44). czara https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947320347 is there a connection between this and Pi's view of human social standing?]]> 2021-12-14 15:34:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947320347 "Getting animals used to the presence of humans is at the heart of the art and science of zookeeping." https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947322718 You have to know your boundaries around the animals and how close you can get. Cole]]> 2021-12-14 15:35:13 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947322718 "social rank is central to how it leads its life" (44) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947337037 animals act based off of their actions and how they feel somewhat like humans- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947337037 "a close relationship will also mean protection from the other member of the pride" (45) https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947345891 even tigers have other animals that they may see as superior and that are scared of- Ellie]]> 2021-12-14 15:43:03 UTC https://padlet.com/jenniferholston1_1/idebbc88c6xfvrde/wish/1947345891