Heart of Darkness P.2 by Erica Aceret https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5 Analysis pg. 53-59 en-us 2019-03-12 13:14:50 UTC 2026-02-23 23:30:32 UTC hello@padlet.com don't say the lords name in vain https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340398641 2019-03-12 13:29:45 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340398641 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399155 "what saves us is efficiency- the devotion to efficiency"(58). ]]> 2019-03-12 13:30:37 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399155 21000600 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399197 The Thames is established as, "It had known and served all the men of whom the nation is proud,"(page 58). This develops the idea that the Thames had a connection with the people on a personal level, and that over the years, it had served people of both high and low status, representing the history and adventure of the river. The Thames also has a sense of mystery along with it, "Flames glided in the river, small green flames, red flames, white flames, pursuing, overtaking, joining, crossing each other-then separating slowly or hastily," (page 70).]]> 2019-03-12 13:30:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399197 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399697 Marlow brought up the Romans because he was foreshadowing the savagery the Englishmen would show toward African Americans. This can be connected to Things Fall Apart because as the two cultures collide, Englishmen turned savage as they were trying to convert the native people. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:31:30 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340399697 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400014 Conrad describes the river as a very beautiful sight. It seems as though it was an everlasting horizon. He establishes this through the description of the river. "The sea and the sky were welded together without a joint" (Conrad 53). The mood overall is pretty majestic. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400014 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400316 The mood that is shown is admiration and pride because the river is great and amazing things have happened on it. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:32:32 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400316 The Cracked Nut https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400603 I think it relates to Marlow and everyone else in a sense of everyone is complexly, simple ]]> 2019-03-12 13:33:01 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400603 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400687 "It had borne all the ships whose names are like jewels flashing in the night of time...It had known the ships and the men." (page 58)
- The narrator personifies the Thames by giving it the human ability to birth, and identify living things.]]> 2019-03-12 13:33:08 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340400687 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401292 The metaphor of the cracked nut refers to refers to the simplicity of most yarns the seamen share, in which "the whole meaning of which lies within the shell of a cracked nut" (56), while Marlow shows more complexity in his perspective; "to him the meaning of an episode was not inside like a kernel but outside, enveloping the tale which brought it out only as a glow brings out a haze" (56). The way he sees stories is compared closer to a glow in light.]]> 2019-03-12 13:34:06 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401292 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401425 the metaphor also develops marlow's character as a true explorer in comparison to the other seamen (quote on page 56)]]> 2019-03-12 13:34:19 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401425 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401616 He established a mood of peace saying "in the luminous space the tanned sails of the barges drifting up with the tide seemed to stand still" (Conrad 53) ]]> 2019-03-12 13:34:39 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401616 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401692 The way he describes the sun shining on the river and the bright sky makes the river sound beautiful and peaceful ]]> 2019-03-12 13:34:47 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340401692 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402178 What saves the Romans is that, unlike the Europeans, they do not pretend to be self righteous or helping the native people. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402178 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402277 If the Thames were a real person, or character they could be described as peaceful and content. 
"Forthwith a change came over the waters, and the serenity became less brilliant and more profound." (page 58)]]> 2019-03-12 13:35:46 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402277 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402518 The Thames is personified as a very respected and majestic being. This is mainly established on page 55 when Marlow is describing the people that have gone on the river, "The tidal current runs to and fro in its unceasing service, crowded with memories of men and ships it had borne to the rest of home or to the battles of the sea" (Conrad 55). If the river were a person, I would see them as a Knight in shining armor of sorts. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:36:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402518 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402695 Marlow views the river Thame similarly to how the narrator appreciates its immortality and memories. Marlow, similarly, appreciates its memories as he recounts the Romans and their conquering.  "'I was thinking of very old times, when the Romans first came here' . . . 'nothing but Thames water to drink"' (Conrad 56-57).]]> 2019-03-12 13:36:30 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340402695 b3 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403014 2019-03-12 13:37:02 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403014 The mood was.... https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403032 The mood is serenity and peace. It's described in how the men on the ship were in a meditative state. It's also displayed through how the tide was "brilliant"(Conrad 66). All of this summed up to peace]]> 2019-03-12 13:37:04 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403032 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403199 the river is seen as like a beautiful oil canvas with different shades of red and green flames. However, something ominous comes when the sun sets and it becomes gloomy.]]> 2019-03-12 13:37:23 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403199 ON JAH https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403270 2019-03-12 13:37:28 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403270 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403796 "Land in a swamp, march through the woods, and in some inland post feel the savagery, the utter savagery, had closed around him"(57).]]> 2019-03-12 13:38:25 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403796 He talks about the sun as light and beautiful, so when the sun sets he uses words such as "sombre" "brooding" and "dull" to establish that dark mood as he tells his story about what a dark place Africa is. https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403867 2019-03-12 13:38:34 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340403867 ¨And indeed nothing is easier for a man who has, as the phrase goes, followed the sea with reverence and afection, than to evoke the great spirit of the past upon the lower reaches of the Thames pg https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404310 2019-03-12 13:39:12 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404310 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404590 The Thames river is personified as a welcoming place of peace that is full of memories. Marlow can recall much of his life that has involved the river, but he reminisces on memories that aren't as relaxed; "I went up that river to the place where I first met the poor chap. It was the farthest point of navigation and the culminating point of my experience" (59).]]> 2019-03-12 13:39:39 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404590 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404813 “The place of the monstrous town was still marked ominously on the sky, a brooding gloom in sunshine, a lurid glare under the stars” (5)]]> 2019-03-12 13:40:00 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404813 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404856 It could be argued that Marlowe does not agree with the narrator, while he appreciates the Thames for transporting him and supplying him with his memories, he is a wanderer and "the sea is always the same." (Page 59) and simply brings him to "the foreign shores, the foreign faces, and the changing immensity of life." (page 59)]]> 2019-03-12 13:40:05 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340404856 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340405881 The Romans are developed as fairly moral people, this goes in contrast with the europeans way of life and thoughts. this thought process is what is said to be the saving grace of the romans.]]> 2019-03-12 13:41:45 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340405881 Marl https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340405976 2019-03-12 13:41:57 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340405976 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406000 We disagree with your idea, we believe what saves people from the fate of the Romans is that the Englishmen gained the trust of the natives by claiming to give them education, medical advances, and other services to help them. After they gained the trust of the natives, they then began to convert them and turn to savagery. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:41:59 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406000 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406111 almost as a goddess. the Thames are described so majestically and beautiful. so i see them as a woman a strong beautiful woman. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:42:09 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406111 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406146 I'm not very sure, maybe. Probably so because the Thames river is very respected and what not and is seen to have a very strong soul and spirit so I would assume so but again, I cant be sure.]]> 2019-03-12 13:42:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406146 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406432 The cracked nut symbolizes the simplicity of the seamen as, "the yarns of seamen have a direct simplicity", similarly, a cracked nut is simple, whether the shell or the actually nut, while Marlow symbolizes the interior, edible nut, or complexness.]]> 2019-03-12 13:42:40 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340406432 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340407578 They are all pretty weird. Marlow especially since he is a wanderer and he is just different in general since he is of the land and sea. It could apply to everyone else as a sailor because they are all broken to some degree, they've all had experiences. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:44:43 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340407578 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408158 Marlow brings up the romans to further elaborate on any type of appr]]> 2019-03-12 13:45:43 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408158 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408218 no because he says "'And this also,' said Marlow suddenly. 'has been one of the dark places of the earth'" (55)in reference to the river. he sees it as more dangerous and gloomy rather than majestic.]]> 2019-03-12 13:45:50 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408218 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408312 He talks about when the Romans first came to England, and how it was a great savage wilderness to them. He describes himself imagining how hard it must have been for a young Roman captain or soldier to come to a whole new place and what would have been hard about it. He makes a connection between Roman explorers and invasion of British Isles to modern conquests of Europe in Africa. They see 
European explorers as "lesser men
]]> 2019-03-12 13:46:01 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408312 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408616 Marlow brought up the Romans to compare them to the colonizers. He describes the colonizers as taking whatever they want and destroying things. The missionaries in Things Fall Apart were colonizers.]]> 2019-03-12 13:46:34 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408616 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408635 Marlow brings up the Romans to address the way they once sailed, they way they colonized and the reasons they did so, "...Rome and survived the awful climate" (Conrad 57). It's similar to TFA because of the way Europeans are colonizing the Africans, one reason is because of the way they're complexion is different than the average European man. Marlow seems very against colonization, considering these people ignorant ]]> 2019-03-12 13:46:36 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408635 21000600 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408751 The cracked nut works for Marlow and everyone else because people who tend to be strange, like Marlow, can be called nutty. On page 68, Marlow is characterized as a wanderer, setting him apart from other seamen. He also, on page 67 is called, "on of the few]]> 2019-03-12 13:46:48 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408751 Marlow brings up the Romans as a means to connect the conquering of the Romans to the current (at the time of the story) colonization of Africa by the Europeans. https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408903 "Sand-banks, marshes, forests, savages" (Conrad 57).]]> 2019-03-12 13:47:04 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408903 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408918 Marlow brings up the Romans because he thinks they have a significant meaning to the colonization causing Africa to be where it is now. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:47:06 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340408918 m https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340409405 2019-03-12 13:47:52 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340409405 The cracked https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340409485 2019-03-12 13:48:01 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340409485 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340410571 A story is not just about its details, but what envelops them and makes them cohesive.]]> 2019-03-12 13:49:54 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340410571 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340411519 We see how both sides can be argued, however, we think he doesn't agree with the narrator. The narrator describes the river as, "luminous"(53) and that everything great had happened on the river. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:51:36 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340411519 "as if Nature herself had tried to ward off intruders." p.15 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340412985 2019-03-12 13:54:14 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340412985 21000600 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340413594 2019-03-12 13:55:21 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340413594 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340413745 The romans were eventually conquered. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:55:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340413745 marl the baddie https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340414319 2019-03-12 13:56:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340414319 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340414873 Marlow doesn't agree with the narrator, due to his negative opinions on the river rather than majestic views like the narrator.]]> 2019-03-12 13:57:40 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340414873 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340861567 However, I do agree that Marlow has a somewhat positive outlook on the river because of the evidence stated above. It seems like its a little bit of both sides.]]> 2019-03-13 13:36:27 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340861567 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340864519 Marlowe referenced the Romans to compare their exploratory expeditions to the pleasure motives of the Nellie]]> 2019-03-13 13:41:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340864519 "It had known the ships and the men," (Conrad 55). This personifies the river Thames as one that knew all who it 'met', by which it means the ships and sailors that sailed upon it. https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865656 2019-03-13 13:43:33 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865656 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865721 The Thames would be described as a well-known individual. As the narrator mentioned, the Thames " had borne all the ships whose names are like jewels flashing in the night of time" (Conrad 55). The Thames had served many famous men including Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Franklin, making it a famous waterway for transportation (Conrad 55). ]]> 2019-03-13 13:43:39 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865721 https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865847  Prior to European colonization there was the Era of Enlightenment, a time period where people distanced themselves from the church and had more trust in science then faith. After this era came industrialization. In the eyes of some Native groups European colonizers appeared to be Gods. While the Romans where an advanced civilization, they lacked attention to the appeals of Native groups they attempted to conquer.]]> 2019-03-13 13:43:53 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/hza22cv19j5/wish/340865847