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      <title>115-144 Discussion 2nd period  by Meg Ingram</title>
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      <pubDate>2018-02-01 13:35:32 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Caroline S. and Tiffany </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227047159</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>“I wish that little boy was with us.” (pg 131)&nbsp;</div><div>“We wouldn’t ever eat anybody would we?” (pg 128)&nbsp;</div><div>“There were times when he sat watching the boy sleep that he began to sob uncontrollably (…) he thought it was about (…) goodness” (pg 129)&nbsp;</div><div>“And we couldn’t help them because theyd eat us too” “And that’s why we couldn’t help them” (pg 127)&nbsp;</div><div>“Is it okay for us to take it” (pg 139)&nbsp;</div><div><br>His father shelters and protects the boy in order to preserve his innocence. He does this by lying and constantly reassuring him that they are going to be okay and that they are the good guys.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:23:00 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Choy and Hakan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227047167</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>(139)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<em>Is it okay for us to take it? Yes. It is. They would want us to. Just like we would want them to. They were the good guys? Yes. They were. Like us. Like us. Yes. So it's okay. Yes. It's okay</em>&nbsp;<br><br></div><div><em>They're going to kill those people, arent they? Yes. Why do they have to do that? I dont know. Are they going to eat them? I dont know. They're going to eat them, arent they? Yes. And we couldnt help them because then they'd eat us too. Yes. And that's why we couldnt help them. Yes. Okay.(127)</em>&nbsp;<br><br></div><div><em>&nbsp;</em><br><br></div><div>The boy is still able to maintain his humanity and compassion towards others because the man shields the boy from the atrocities humans are capable of and keeps him away from witnessing the cruelty of mankind.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:23:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Cam Caroline Ben Zach</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227047340</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;pg. 139 “is it okay for us to take it?”, pg. 128 “would we ever eat anyone else”, pg. 131 “I wish that little boy was with us”. We believe he is a genuinely good and moral person because of the way his father has raised him. The man, even as humanity was falling apart, raised his child to care about others and not think of himself first. Although the man himself has drifted from these beliefs, the boy stands by them. In addition, some psychologists believe that humans are innately good people who care about others, and we are taught to be selfish and egotistical&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:23:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Jake and Liran</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227047767</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div><br></div><div>1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Examples of humanity in the boy: “Is it okay for us to take it? Yes. It is. They would want us to. Just like we would want them to. They were the good guys? Yes. They were.” (140) “Are they going to eat them? I don’t know. They are going to eat them, aren’t they? Yes. And we couldn’t help them because then they’d eat us too.” (127) “We wouldn’t ever eat anybody, would we? No. Of course not.” (128)&nbsp;<br><br></div><div>He is constantly experiencing the feelings of affection and empathy from his father, so he might reflect these feelings outwardly to others even though he rarely encounters other humans besides his father.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:23:52 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>CCBZ</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227048253</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;The pistol symbolizes death, and the lamp symbolizes light and hope and living. Although with living comes discomfort/starvation and terrible living conditions, to the boy, it is still a better alternative than death. Therefore, lamp:pistol::hope:death.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:24:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Caroline S. and Tiffany </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227048257</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The man was sad that he could not protect the boy and that the boy had to suffer. He wished that he could give him a normal life and saw beauty in his innocence and his ability to remain uncorrupted in the world they live in. They boy was his only shred of goodness.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:24:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>CCBZ</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227048730</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>When the boy mentions they’re carrying the fire, even in the face of death when they want nothing more than to give up, they still have some semblance of hope. The phrase becomes more symbolic after the cellar scene because the boy has seen how fire can be a source of hope (from when they dropped the lighter into the cellar), and so now he has made the connection that since they are “carrying the fire” there is still hope for them.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew &amp; Philip</title>
         <author>1100319674</author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227048993</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>“’We wouldn’t ever eat anybody, would we?... Even if we were starving?” (128). “Is it okay for us to take it?” (139). Perhaps the author believes that humans are innately good. The boy is uninfluenced, so he still has his humanity. Otherwise, the compassion and humanity comes from good parenting of the father to the son.&nbsp;<br><br></div><div>“’We wouldn’t ever eat anybody, would we?... Even if we were starving?” (128). “Is it okay for us to take it?” (139). Perhaps the author believes that humans are innately good. The boy is uninfluenced, so he still has his humanity. Otherwise, the compassion and humanity comes from good parenting of the father to the son.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;</div><div>“’We wouldn’t ever eat anybody, would we?... Even if we were starving?” (128). “Is it okay for us to take it?” (139). Perhaps the author believes that humans are innately good. The boy is uninfluenced, so he still has his humanity. Otherwise, the compassion and humanity comes from good parenting of the father to the son.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:32 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Jake and Liran</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049016</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>This does mean something different now after the cellar scene. It is known that the lighter was left behind which was the physical light they kept with them. Knowing that the literal fire was left behind, one can see that the “fire” is figurative and is within the man and the boy themselves, representing hope that is still being carried with them. Relating to the slide above, it shows he may be more insecure about whether what he is saying is really something he truly has in mind.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:35 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Caroline S. and Tiffany </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049131</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;This reinforces the fact that fire equals hope. Now that they literally don’t have the fire (because the man dropped it in the cellar), it is more obvious that the fire symbolizes his faith and reassurance.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:43 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Jake and Liran</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049284</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>LAMP:PISTOL::SUSTENANCE:DESPERATION&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>CCBZ</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049323</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>In a practical sense, the gun would provide safety for them. They would be able to stay in the shelter and eat all the food they possibly can, stay warm, take hot baths, have lights and such, basically they would be able to have everything they need. The only reason they cannot stay is because people can invade the shelter and attack them. If they had a gun, they could defend themselves. McCarthy did not want to provide them with safety and comfort.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:25:58 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Choy and Hakan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049615</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The fire becomes the preservation of the decency of mankind’s qualities before the apocalypse; the man and the boy do not eat other humans, they obtain resources from the natural, surrounding environment, and after the cellar scene, they are still able to retain their hope for humanity even after witnessing the livestock treatment of people.&nbsp; And this is because they maintained their sanity.&nbsp;<br><br></div><div>&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:22 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Jake and Liran</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049637</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>McCarthy does not give them the gun he does not want them to be fully fulfilled at this point in the novel. Giving them a gun would be overpowering them. It would relieve them of the their current slightly hopeless state which pushes them to their goal of moving South.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:25 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>rodrigo luca morgan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049700</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;pg.128 the conversation about eating when he mentions ”we wouldn’t ever eat anybody would we?”&nbsp;</div><div>pg.139 the conversation about eating the food in the bunker “ is it okay for us to take it (the food)?” and on pg 140 “they were the good guys?” yes they were. Like us. Like us yes.”&nbsp;</div><div>The boy is just a boy, and the father has raised him in a somewhat better environment&nbsp; than most people during this world catastrophe.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:29 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Caroline S. and Tiffany </title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049707</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>Lamp: pistol&nbsp;</div><div>Goodness/ life: violence/ death&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:30 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Choy and Hakan</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049736</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The lamp is to life as the gun is to death. Choosing the gun meant potentially using a bullet to end it etc.<br><br></div><div>LAMP : PISTOL&nbsp; ::&nbsp; Life: Death<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Dillon Jewel and Yash Chawla </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227049765</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>The fire still has the same connotation for the boy. The man becomes emotionally stronger by the boy’s empathy. The boy still sees that the hope in going to the coast but still needs the “fire” to continue their journey. &nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:26:35 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Choy and Hakan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227050154</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>If McCarthy had gave them a gun, it would represent more hope than what the bunker had already offered (deus ex machina), a mechanism of guaranteeing protection and maintaining hope for the boy and the man. The fact there isn’t a gun reiterates the scenario that they’ve established before with only a single bullet.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:27:03 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Caroline S. and Tiffany </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227050352</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>- So they wouldn’t kill themselves</div><div>- There would be no gun because they are the good guys and they would keep being so (ref. question 4)</div><div>- They would be forced to leave the shelter with no gun (moves along the story line)<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:27:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>rodrigo luca morgan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227050546</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>rodrigo luca morgan&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br></div><div>1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;pg.128 the conversation&nbsp;<br>about eating when he mentions ”we wouldn’t ever eat anybody would we?”&nbsp;</div><div>pg.139 the conversation about eating the food in the bunker “ is it okay for us to take it (the food)?” and on pg 140 “they were the good guys?” yes they were. Like us. Like us yes.”&nbsp;</div><div>The boy is just a boy, and the father has raised him in a somewhat better environment&nbsp; than most people during this world catastrophe.&nbsp;<br><br></div><div><br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:27:36 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Yash and Dillon </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227050695</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Lamp: Pistol: Life: Death. The lamp is the “fire” that the boy needs to continue their journey. The pistol signifies the deaths and hardships which the man and the boy had to face. These both tie into how the life of the man and the boy changes and what they see in the current life and the past life.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:27:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew &amp; Philip</title>
         <author>1100319674</author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227051609</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Post cellar scene, “we’re carrying the fire” loses the meaning of hope, but it still means goodness. In the page before, the boy talks about their goodness. Previously, they had hope, but after the cellar scene, they lose hope in humanity, but keep the goodness within them.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:29:06 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew &amp; Philip</title>
         <author>1100319674</author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227052036</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Lamp is to pistol as innocence is to protector as boy is to man. The lamp is the fire that the boy holds and represents the innocent goodness in the boy. The pistol represents the ‘protect at all costs’ mentality the man has for the boy.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:29:37 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew &amp; Philip</title>
         <author>1100319674</author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227052318</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The bunker is a nourishing place to save the boy and the man from sure starvation, but is not a safe place as the bunker is open to other scavengers and there is no ammunition that they can use. This shows the lack of safety that the bunker gives them.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:29:59 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>rodrigo luca morgan</title>
         <author></author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227052662</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;</div><div>1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;They are no longer carrying the fire, that cellar with evil stole their most important piece of hope. This changes the symbolism of the fire from the lighter to which is now the boy. When he talks about the beauty, he is talking about the boy which makes the reader think that the new fire is the boy which will ultimately help them both survive.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:30:26 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>rodrigo luca morgan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227053091</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Warrant: Police Officer<br><br></div><div>The boy still has his innocence.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:31:02 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>rodrigo luca morgan</title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227053376</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>McCarthy wants the reader to never feel so confident in the situations that the man and they boy run into and it just means that eventually every good thing in the type of world that they live in has to&nbsp; &nbsp; come to and end because they wont really be able to protect that bunker and much less themselves.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:31:26 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Dillion and Yash </title>
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         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227065042</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>The boy has maintained the empathy and compassion because of the innocence he has maintained. The boy has not been exposed to any type of hardships in the past. He has been with his father and most likely assumes that every person he meets will be like his father.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:48:32 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Andrew &amp; Philip </title>
         <author>1100319674</author>
         <link>https://padlet.com/megbingram/hwznjotlhq2u/wish/227065858</link>
         <description><![CDATA[<div>They’ve been so close to death and all his good dreams remind him about his death. The child is like another good dream, where the beauty and goodness is just a reminder of the horrible place they are in.&nbsp;<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2018-02-01 14:49:46 UTC</pubDate>
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